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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:40 PM
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Anybody ever eaten Quail?
I did once at the fancy Buckhorn Exchange Restaurant in Denver. It wasn't as bad as I thought. Certainly not as good as turkey. However one little quail would never be able to be "supersized" at Burger King. They are small, gamy and full of bones (and sometimes buckshot).

In a round-about manner I'm trying to figure out why 'Deadeye Dick' even wants to go Quail hunting. Quail and other prairie semi-flightless birds are far more common in the wild in my neck-of-the-woods (western Kansas and eastern Colorado) than in far south Texas. I really think that what he was shooting at were 'farm raised'.

I don't like hunting very much. But I really don't like people who hunt captive animals.

If this is true, it speaks a great truth as to the personal beliefs of our real President. Cheney doesn't give a damn about life.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:41 PM
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1. No
had goose last year and it was way darker than I'd imagined. That, chicken and turkey are the only birds I've tasted the meat of.

I'd rather shoot them with my camera than eat them.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:53 PM
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11. My dream is to become a wild turkey hunter, not with a gun, only a camera
to kill for sport is wrong, to kill to eat, well.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:37 PM
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27. either way
it's either alive forever on film or gone forever digesting in the nether regions of my gut. I know what i prefer.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:19 AM
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42. If you ever get to eat a wild turkey you'll know

Nothing in your local grocery store compares to it.

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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:32 AM
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48. mmmm lots of dark meat!!!!!

use those breast muscles for flight and no more white meat.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:43 PM
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2. They weren't "hunting", they were "shooting...
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 10:45 PM by TomInTib
and isn't the Buckhorn Exchange an amazing place?

Carnivore Central.

on edit:
I have eaten a lot of quail.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:08 PM
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17. Their Elk is 'to-die-for'
They have been there for about a hundred years. I don't care if it is farm raised. At least it is eaten.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:44 PM
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3. Hey, El Supremo, read this for some depressing enlightenment..
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:48 PM
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10. I know all about that story and the HSUS
They are nothing but a front for the Vegetarian nuts at PETA.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:19 PM
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21. Tell you what, El Burrito
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 11:20 PM by flvegan
I'm one of those vegetarian (actually, vegan) "nuts" at PETA, so why don't you expound on your hatred here, mmmkay?

Bring it.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:25 PM
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25. We would have to go to the Religion/Theology forum.
But I respect your beliefs. They just ain't mine.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:30 PM
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26. NO, actually
YOU suggested that folks like me were nuts. Has nothing to do with religion.

So...bring it. Don't run away...c'mon...you signed this check, now cash it.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:39 PM
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28. OK. You are as bad as Fred Phelps
You are propagandists who care nothing about other peoples' views. Animals were placed on earth for humans' use and protection.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:54 PM
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33. That's it?
That's all you have?

You draw funny conclusions. Hey, you should've called me Hitler. At least then we'd have Godwin's Rule to invoke and have a chuckle over.

You state opinion as if it were fact and fail to back it up.

Bye, poster.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:01 AM
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36. Pick one.
We can protect animals or torture, kill and eat them. It doesn't work both ways.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:28 AM
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44. I'm crushed.
I mean, really, THAT was it.

*kicks pebbles, shoves hands in pockets*

Guess I'll go home now. Nobody ever wants to play with me.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:29 AM
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45. Well *I* do.
But you knew that.

LMK if you find somebody who'll play. :)
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:57 AM
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54. Eh, cowards
post and run. Whatever. I'll let you know otherwise.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:58 AM
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56. Thanks Fred.
:rofl:
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:53 AM
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52. Interesting
People who call for the end of killing and exploitation of animals are the same as a man who calls for the killing and exploitation of gays and lesbians.


Someone explain the logic of that because I don't get it. :crazy:
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:30 AM
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67. Worst. Defense. EVER.
I'm a meat-eater, and I find this to be the lamest argument I have ever come across against the Humane Society of the United States (with whom I agree) or PeTA (with whom I have some disagreements). Human beings are animals (unless you'd like to argue that you're vegetable or mineral); are we to use eachother for food and protection?

Bonus points for both ad hominem and straw man argument, though.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 10:53 AM
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69. But you respect his beliefs.
Right.

You can't "respect his beliefs" in one breath and compare him to Fred Phelps in another.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:48 AM
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50. Vegetarianism/Veganism
While sometimes taken up as part of one's religion, are not a religious matter. They are, however, frequently an ethical matter. The people who choose such lifestyles simply believe it is wrong to kill and/or otherwise exploit animals for their food, wardrobes and other needs.

If you respected such beliefs you wouldn't be tossing out crude names for people who ascribe to them.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:54 AM
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53. You and your logic
You're likely to get a smack-bottom for that type of thinking, eh?
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:41 AM
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61. Wouldn't be the first time
Here's the target at any rate.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:45 PM
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4. There is a really good joke lurking in that question
but I'm gonna pass
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:45 PM
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5. I'd like to know w Richard Bruce Cheney's parent's were like. I have a
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 10:45 PM by henslee
feeling there is some glaringly obvious reason why Dick is.... Dick.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:45 PM
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6. It's a "Sportsman" thing.
Apparently, it's satisfying to brag about shooting a small, nearly flightless, domestic bird.

Some people get off on that.

:shrug:
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AGKISTRODON Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:59 PM
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12. "Nearly flightless, domestic bird"?
Who told you that?B-)
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:03 PM
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13. Farm-raised quail? Are you kidding?
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 11:04 PM by MercutioATC
They're almost as bad as farm-raised pheasant.

One or two (pheasants) occasionally wander from a place near my parents' house. I have to shoo them out of the driveway so I don't run them over. I could "hunt" them with a brick.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:25 AM
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65. I have the same thing happen frequently.
Pheasants wander into our yard from the moor and just settle down for a little nap, or they peck around in the grass. They don't seem frightened by anything, not even my border collie, and these are wild pheasants, not farm-raised.

Sometimes when I'm driving my kids into town for school, I have to stop the car and get out to shoo them out of the road, like you do in the driveway.

The near-tame pheasants and quail Cheney "hunts" might as well be stuffed toys for all the challenge they provide as a target. He'd have a harder time playing a video game.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:24 AM
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43. You don't know Cheney "hunts" disabled birds.
This is common knowledge.

http://tinyurl.com/648ee

Who told you he was a real hunter? :rofl:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:33 AM
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60. Canned hunts are barbaric as hell, and only really appeal
to those individuals who have Antisocial Personality Disorder (Sociopaths, a-la Hannibal Lecter). More specifically it is associated with the Aggressive Sociopaths, who derive strong, yet non perverse gratification from harming others...In their spare time, they like to hunt or occasionally do sadistic things like find stray dogs and cut them up. http://faculty.ncwc.edu/toconnor/428/428lect16.htm

Canned hunting facilities should be shuttered, and the people who "enjoyed" them need to be medicated.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:19 PM
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22. No, it's a 'killing' thing. SPORTSMEN do not shoot tame birds for fun.
Cheney does NOT eat the animals he shoots,
nor does he seek the "sport" of actually HUNTING
animals which are difficult to bring down.

When Cheney goes 'hunting', he prefers to be driven to a spot
where he can stand still while tame, cage-raised animals
are released in front of him so he can kill them for fun.
At least once, he shot 70 in a single outing.

The only reason he kills tame birds with a shotgun
is because it is more 'socially acceptable' than killing
blind kittens with a club.
The skill required is about the same.

CHENEY is not a 'hunter', he's just a rich asshole
who enjoys killing small, helpless animals.
LOTS of small, helpless animals.

I come from a long line of "hunters and Sportsmen", and I can
assure you that people like Cheney are considered to be
a lower life form by REAL hunters.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:54 PM
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34. I meant no offense to hunters.
Edited on Fri Feb-17-06 12:21 AM by MercutioATC
I have absolutely no gripe with hunting, in general.


...that's why I put "Sportsmen" in qoutes. Cheney doesn't seem (in my limited experience) to be a sportsman to me.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:27 AM
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66. If we lived in the 19th century,
Cheney would be one of those rich bastards who used to shoot buffalo from the windows of a train for "sport".
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:46 PM
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7. It is said that he's gone on trips where the birds were released right
in front of him, like freakin' skeets, and that he shot hundreds of them. I don't think the idea was to eat the buggers. Wasteful.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:05 PM
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15. Here's a link that confirms Cheney shot pheasants released from pens
http://www.kdka.com/local/local_story_344154903.html

"Five-hundred pheasants were released in front of Cheney and his men; and the ten-man hunting party killed 417 of the birds. Vice President Cheney alone shot over 70 pheasants"
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:46 PM
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8. I've had them in France...quite good.
But truth be told, they coulda put a piece of shit in the sauce
that surrounded the quail and it would have been great.

Nothing like a good sauce.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:47 PM
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9. No, but when I was an itty bitty kid, I accidentally turned the oven up on
some that my granny was trying to keep warm in the oven and they sort of got baked. Man did I ever feel badly! Poor little things were so cute.
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DenaliDemocrat Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:05 PM
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14. I guess it is what you like
I find turkey dry and boring.

I like quail, especially smoked.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:07 PM
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16. Not yet.

But I've had my share of crow.... :D
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:10 PM
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18. He likes to kill things
lots of things.
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Anywho6 Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:14 PM
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19. Tastes like chicken n/t
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bmbmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:18 PM
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20. My favorite gamebird.
Delicate, white meat-very tasty. I've eaten a ton of it.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:21 PM
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23. Good...
Did you ever shoot any and not eat them?
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:24 PM
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24. Sure, many times. Humans eat just about every kind of bird that exists.
I never really cared all that much for turkey. I think quail are about as tasty as anything I can think of, and I'm a big fried chicken fan.

I knew a guy who I thought was a hunter but found out he just liked killing things after a short while. He killed 50 ducks one morning and threw them in a ditch. My SO and I happened on the scene and we picked them up and spent half a day cleaning & freezing them. One think I can't stand is some asshole who just wants to kill animals with no intention of utilizing them for food.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:40 PM
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29. Marilyn has
But then she married him, and hasn't since.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:45 PM
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31. Har!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:04 AM
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64. Hehehe
:rofl: :thumbsup:
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:40 PM
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30. quail tastes a little like golden eagle, a little like spotted owl
Definitely gamey.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:45 PM
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32. Picture Bin Laden as a quail
and there you have your farm raised quail shoot.

He drives up to them with his limo, the secret service finds a couple hobbling around, sprays them with mace and Cheney blasts em.

I was raised on a farm. Game birds like that raised in the wild, such as partridge, were quick as hell and tasted quite good.
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kayice Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:00 AM
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35. Yes, it is okay. There is not much quail left in east central Kansas.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:02 AM
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37. Yep, and I'm in no hurry to eat them again
My grandfather was a big hunter. He and my grandmother always had quail, venison, and turkey in the freezer. I thought quail was too dry and weird-tasting. But as a kid I had a pretty unadventurous palate. Who's to say I wouldn't like it now?
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 02:54 AM
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63. Done right, it's wonderful.
There's a place in Chicago, of all places, that does a brillaint marinated quail. My friends and I would get it when we went in in high school.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:03 AM
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38. Anything like Cornish Game Hen?
That I've had...

But you can get that at the supermarket.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:06 AM
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39. A few times
Smoked, baked and fried(!). It is delicious. Nearly broke a tooth on a pellet once, tho.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:11 AM
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40. Chewy, but tasty.
And what Cheney did wasn't anything like hunting except that guns were used. He shot a shitpile of tame birds that have to be made to fly away. They're slow, small, and easy to bring down.

Wild quail are smart, fast, and a bitch to shoot down. This was a killfest, nothing more. Everything about Cheney is just plain fucking evil.
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miner Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:16 AM
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41. Quail and other wild game
This post is purely culinary not political. I was an avid hunter for many years, before my wife became ill, and have shot all legal North American game except bear, mule deer, antelope, elk and moose.

Properly dressed and cooked, dove and quail are excellent.(I prefer grouse as they are larger) My absolute favorite is pheasant, cooked rare. Ducks and geese should also be cooked rare(no higher than 145 degrees F) for best results. These are not chickens or turkeys which are similar in having white breast meat which turns out dry and tasteless no matter how you cook it. Pheasant breast meat is read meat like beefsteak, but leaner, and should be cooked with that in mind. A good red wine always helps with morels(we call them wood fish, a type of wild mushroom)

The closest, to what I dearly miss, that I can buy in a store today is the occasional duck, which is OK, but not the same(too oily) as what I bagged some few years ago. I miss the hunt and the great food and I haven't even touched upon venison. Please don't condemn hunters out of hand. I have planted acres of corn, rye and other crops, never to be harvested except for the benefit of the game which ate it.

Hope this helps you that have never enjoyed quail or other wild game.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:30 AM
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46. Thanks for the post...
I'm not a hunter, but I don't have a problem with hunting. I think your post defines what "hunting" really is. You kill what you eat and you enjoy both the taking of the game and eating what you take.

Some people see all hunting as unacceptable. I think your contribution is valuable. Perhaps some people will view the situation differently.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:30 AM
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47. Very true.
I've enjoyed quail an a great many wild animals. I've just never shot nor killed any of them.
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:33 AM
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49. Poppy Bush?
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:51 AM
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51. Tipsy Quail, tastes like a French chicken
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:58 AM
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55. Fryer chicken-2 lbs, Roasting chicken- 3 lbs... Quail. 8 oz.
:)

Its not a meal, its an appetizer. A dry one at that.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:16 AM
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58. Well now my grandma...
could cook up a mess of quail pretty good and it wasn't dry at all. Then again she cooked all kind of game and knew how to make it tasty. It's what they had.

At 8 ozs you better have a good hunt if you're going to eat them fresh. A lot of the dryness comes from people freezing them till they get enough, I think.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:00 AM
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57. yes, a number of years ago
my grandfather shot them in the hills and grandma & I plucked them. I don't remember what they tasted like. My memory was of feathery dust balls with very little meat. I think if I were to hunt birds I might choose something slightly larger, say duck or phesant. Something that left more after they were plucked.

So far, I have not had the particular urge to go hunting. But if another deer jumps out in front of my car...it, or one of its relatives, might wind up in my freezer (as compensation for the dent repairs). My record so far is 2 deer running in front of my cars. As far as I know, both deer escaped, slightly stunned. The autos involved both required repair. Sigh.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:23 AM
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59. Reminds me of a Ron White joke
about his brother going hunting. He wore camo clothes and face paint. Got up at 4 in the morning. It was below freezing. Had deer urine on his boots. Carrying a hunting rifle that shoots a bullet 2700 feet per second...

Ron's retort was that he hit one with a van at 55 MPH with his headlights on full and his horn blowing. If you really want to shoot a deer, slow down that bullet to 55 and put some lights and a horn on it.

:)
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noshenanigans Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:52 AM
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62. Just the other day, actually...
Edited on Fri Feb-17-06 01:53 AM by noshenanigans
We went to this amazing Indian placed names Salomi and I had Tandoori Quail. it was absolutely delicious, but all of their Tandoori was very very good.

My dad goes hunting, but not bird hunting. I guess I'm just of the mind that bird hunting (except ducks, I guess, and wild turkey) is stupid. But that's because I was raised on a diet of deer, squirrel, rabbit, and turkey meat all from my father's hunting.

The idea of hunting tame animals makes me ill.. It's like a shooting spree at a veal farm.
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:37 AM
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68. Tastes like frog legs... n/t
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 10:56 AM
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70. Maryiln has....
bwahahahah....

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