Anyone else remember this GW & Jeb Bush snippet from Election night 2000?

[WePurrsevere]

From this DU thread: http://tinyurl.com/bdc6d

I shared the following memory that IMO shows that "Bush Knew.." that he would win in 2000. My husband and I both remember it fairly well, although he remembers Jeb saying something like "don't worry it's covered". Something another poster said makes me wonder if anyone else happened to catch this before it was glossed over and made to go away. Although there's not much that can be done after all this time if our memory serves us correctly it is one more bit of "evidence" that Florida's election was umm.. assisted by Jeb.

It was on satellite news, not sure if Fox, CNN, or which... my husband and I were watching the election news as the results came in since we both felt stronger about this election then we had in a long time... quite frankly Bush and his neo-con agenda was everything we disagree with. As we were watching the news the news went to show Bush as he and his brother were watching the results come in... Bush was given the news that a news station had called Florida for Gore... he looked pissed and looked at his brother who got up quickly muttered something along the lines of "I'll take care of it", GWB looked mollified and that's when the exchange between my husband and I took place... I knew that the election, at least there in Florida was as fixed as it could be and we both wondered if it was umm.. "tweaked" a bit elsewhere. From what we heard and saw we felt and still do that Jeb had a hand in the wild mess. When we saw that same basic scene rerun later it had been glossed over.

I truly wish we could remember in more and specific detail the whole thing but it's been over 5 yrs and a lot of life and BuShit has gone on since then. Perhaps though somewhere someone has this on tape. I do know one thing with absolute certainty one thing... if it can be found anywhere on the web I know a DUer can dig it up. B-)

[marmar]

1. Of course the fat-faced smug trough-feeding swine knew the fix was in...

I think I despise him more than I despise *. He'll have the downfall of America on his conscience one day, if he has a conscience.

:grr:

[MissWaverly]

2. thanks for following up on this

I would be interested in seeing how many people respond

:-)

[sallyseven]

6. Bush was heard to say that Jeb promised

hin that he would win.

[WePurrsevere]

14. You're welcome. I'm glad you got me thinking about it. n/t

:)

[MissWaverly]

19. thanks your cat looks like he would make a good assistant

for Patrick Fitzgerald, he has that kind of a look.

[WePurrsevere]

21. LoL.. thanks... Punkin would take that as a compliment.

Ms Pheo, the current black cat avatar, would just say "of course". ;)

[DemInDistress]

3. that's not all the bush crime family ordered removed from our view

It was during the 911 hearings that PDB was made public BRIEFLY FLASHED ON MY TV IT SAID," weeks many many dead, very very big uproar possibly using hijacked commercial jets as suicidal weapons to be crashed into skyscrapers in NYC DC and Chicago....Later when Tenet testified under oath this happened..
Tenet when asked if he met with bush about the pdb during August 2001 Tenet replied," NO,I WAS IN MARYLAND BUSH WAS IN CRAWFORD" Ok I believed him but later that afternoon both Tom Ludicrous Kean and Tenet appear on camera and Kean says,"Mr. Tenet would like to amend his testimony to include speaking to bush on AUG 18 2001
AUG 25 2001 AND AUG 31 2001." How difficult is it to remember spending the day at Crawford on Aug 25 2001 along with other War hawks,Condi? What did they discuss? Hm recent capture of Moussouai? Osama,911? Can't fool this New Yorker..

[WePurrsevere]

29. What does "PDB" mean please? I'm not familiar with that one.

Even up in Northern NY most folks my husband and I have talked with about 9/11 don't believe Bush or any of his minions about exactly what happened. There's no question in my mind that there's a whole lot more to know about 9/11 and more then a few would bet their last dime that BushCo, etc had a HUGE hand in it all and are guilty of murdering all of those people who died in the planes and towers... Bush KNEW... and where's Bin Laden again?

[DemInDistress]

30. Aug 6 2001..President's Daily Brief..it said..

osmam determined to strike inside the USA...weeks many many dead and much more although the serious stuff was cut out and only a portion was revealed to the public...
hope that helped..

edit for spelling,.. its osama not osmam.. silly me

[WePurrsevere]

32. Thank you... it makes more sense now. I remember hearing about that...

briefing and that he did absolutely NOTHING. By any chance are the bits that were cut out available on the web somewhere or did they merely go *poof*?

[DemInDistress]

34. no unfortunately..there gone from public view...but it did say this

weeks, many many dead, very very big uproar. Possibly using hijacked commercial jets as suicidal weapons to be crashed into skyscrapers in NYC Chicago and DC..that day the pdb was aired I didn't have my vcr running otherwise I'd have the tape. When I saw it that one time I had expected to see it again but my guess is the bush crime family saw how damaging that paragraph would be..
Still,. I didn't make those words up the makers of that pdb did i was fortunate to see it and memorized it..

hello from a snow bound NYC..:hi: :hi:

[WePurrsevere]

46. That sounds like something I heard so your memory is probably right on.

The fact that he knew there was a real danger and did nothing should have had the media and congress screaming.

He has the blood of 9/11 victims, Iraq soldiers and citizens, Afghani's, New Orleans, etc on his hands. How many more people have to die because of this man's incompetence or power/money greed before Americans will wake up and scream for not only his impeachement but life imprisonment... without a damn pardon?


~*~
:hi: Hello from up on the Canadian border of NY.. where we have maybe 2 inches of snow on the ground & 13 degree ::brr:: ... gosh but this Winter's been a wild one eh? :) Try to stay warm and dry... Spring's coming... or so I'm told. ;-)

[DemInDistress]

48. thanks my friend from Canada..The city is shut down for emergency

vehicles to clear the roads. Funny, we had a delightful January, mild little snow and some rain but wow, Febuary has been cruel. Yes, spring may be here sometime but not soon enough..

thanks again..

[Lifelong Protester]

54. I thought you needed a heart!

In that frozen, snowy northeast (not that it isn't frozen in WI, we just have waaaaaaaaaaaaay less snow!):hi:

[DemInDistress]

55. 24 inches...Mother Nature can be so cruel...

:hi: :hi: :hi:

[WePurrsevere]

57. Although I'm love Canada & my birth father was Canadian we live on the US

side in NY.

NYC must be a zoo with that much snow. I've been down there many times and have an uncle down there. I can't even imagine all that traffic and the plows trying to get the roads and tracks cleared off.. not to mention the side walks. OTOH a friend of mine from down there says it's a bit like a school snow day for adults since many businesses take the day off too.

We had the same odd January. One day up to 51! We've even had the early flowers start to push out of the ground a bit. In a way we're relieved that it's been mild so far since oil prices are so high and we've been struggling to keep the house heated. OTOH not having the snow up here is not good for the plants since it's Mother Nature's insulation blanket. February has been more "normal" and freezing cold like it is down there I think. Spring can never come to fast for me... the snow is beautiful and makes everything look pretty but I'll take the colors (and gentle warmth) of Spring and Fall anyday. :)

Take care and stay safe my friend...

[driver8]

56. Hello fellow Northern New Yorker!!

I'm originally from Potsdam. :hi:

[WePurrsevere]

58. Hi! We're about 20 minutes NW. That and Canton are two of my favorite

cute college towns. B-) We go through there all the time to visit my eldest daughter who rents -to-own our old house in Malone. :)

[FreedomAngel82]

50. There was this really great film made

that was where it was just behind the scenes satellite stuff. Does anybody know what I'm talking about? The name of the film slipped me now though, but it shows various canidates (Bush41, Gore, Clinton) at various tv interviews behind the scenes and stuff. They should make another one if it's possible. That would be nice especially now days!

[WePurrsevere]

59. My DH used to install & repair satellites so I know what you're talking

about. One incident he told me about was that he once saw Walter Cronkite getting ready to do the news and he was wearing Bermuda shorts with a suit and tie on top. Can't say I would blame the man.. it's hot under those lights and he sat behind a desk so who ever knew.

Anyway, I'd love to see satellite behind the scenes stuff of all of the candidates and such. Maybe we'd actually see the REAL person better. The problem is if they know they'll be seen at all they'll be "ON". It's only any good if they don't know.

[flyarm]

51. and it just so happened right around aug 6th time period one of the airlin

one of the airlines involved had crew uniforms stolen...

and tenet was not aware of that????????????

bullshit!

fly

[WePurrsevere]

60. I hadn't heard that before. How much did the airlines report stuff like

that back then?

Missed opportunities... so many hints... so much "in your face" evidence to follow... and ALL on GWB's watch too. Add in all of the times he's screwed up royally since and ALL of the lives he's cost and harmed forever... :grr: :nuke: :grr:

[SpiralHawk]

64. good catch, Dem

Another bald-faced lie from the BushCo cabal of cronies.

[cyberpj]

4. Ask at the Elections Reform forum - bet someone there knows of it.

[WePurrsevere]

24. I thought about posting it there but wasn't sure so put it here figuring

the mods could move it if it was the wrong spot. Sometimes having all these areas makes it harder to choose which one.

[Dr. Jones]

5. Indeed, but what got it for me was the scene

from Fahrenheit 9/11 when they showed Bush on the airplane and he CONFIDENTLY said with a look in his face that he knew something we didn't, "We'll get Florida, YOU CAN BET ON IT."

Spooky, eerie...and most CERTAINLY a setup.

But what is it about Florida? Jeb is from Florida, The election was decided there. Porter Goss was a politicain in Florida, and is now CIA. Abramoff had that gambling boat fleet in Florida, and supposedly the terrorists were seen on one of Abramoff's boats.

Anybody connect the dots here?

[WePurrsevere]

17. I remember that as well. That was before the election if I remember right

wasn't it? It certainly gave me a chill. Unfortunately I haven't seen Fahrenheit 9/11 yet. Funds have been tight but we'll be buying it as soon as we can. I've heard it addresses many of the issues my husband and I both noticed at the time and have questioned over the last few years.

Those are some interesting "dots" there. They do tend to make one wonder don't they? There's many "dots" with this admin that can easily be added up by any one with half a brain and yet our illustrious leaders in Congress can't seem to see what's hiding in plain site until they're beaten upside the head a few times with it (and even then ::sigh:: )

oh and BTW - welcome to DU. :)

[Dr. Jones]

18. Thanks for the welcome!

And did you know, you can check out Fahrenheit 9/11 from your library. There's a long waiting list, but at least it's FREE!!

[WePurrsevere]

22. I hadn't thought of that. I'll check it out.. maybe it won't be as bad up

here in the country. :)

[FreedomAngel82]

52. Oh of course

Bush likes to appoint people from Florida and Texas. It's probably because they all have ties together and probably blackmail each other.

[MuseRider]

7. I remember hearing about it

but was thankfully at rehearsal that night. My friend came in late, told us that Florida was called for Gore and we all lightened up a bit. Called my husband at break and it was downhill from there.

I do not remember where I saw, heard or read about that exchange but I do recall it vividly.

Criminals all.

Sorry I can't be of any more help than the reassure you that is was heard by some people anyway.

[napi21]

8. I seem to remember a somment something like....

"But that's not possible, my brother promised me."

I sure don't know about Fox 'cause I never watch that chanel, but I was switchine between CNN, MSNBC & CSPAN. I remember the whole family (Bush) was in what looked like their livingroom. Poppy, Babs, Shrub, Laura, Jeb, Jeb's wife, for sure. I don't recall if the kids were there or not. Seems they were all watching the results on TV. I think there was quite a bit of discussion about that comment at the time too.

Of course, that was 5 years ago, and my brain is old.

[American liberal]

9. I didn't see it myself, but someone at work brought it up the other day

All I could do was shake my head. Yeah, they knew. Just rewatch the documentary "Unprecedented," and you will see exactly how the election was fixed in Florida. It was the faux felon list purge that did it. And Katherine may she rot in Hell Harris instigated the whole thing with Jeb's blessing. And what pisses me off the most is that in 2000, 35 friggin' YEARS since the Voting Rights Act was passed, that kind of bullshit STILL goes on. It's more insidious today, but it still exists.

[Shadder]

10. I've got it here somewhere

I have 6 hours of coverage each from the last three elections on VHS around here somewhere. Just a matter of finding it.

[WePurrsevere]

23. If you have the time I'd appreciate knowing what was said exactly

It was glossed over and we never heard or saw it the same way after that.

I wish we had taped it now... looking back there were so many little hints given out.

[Solly Mack]

11. I remember. Watching CNN.

Jeb left the room and went somewhere (one can only speculate) and about an hour later, the prediction was withdrawn - news claiming Florida was "unknown"

[WePurrsevere]

28. Yes, that was it! It might very well have been CNN, MSNBC was the only

other we watched at all other then local back then.

[Punkingal]

12. I remember it...

Exactly as you do. Jeb looked like a bad little doggie, who had to go clean up his mess.

[WePurrsevere]

15. Yes! That's exactly how Jeb looked. My DH & I were just saying much the

same and GW looked like he was going to throw a snit fit.

[FreedomAngel82]

53. And earlier this month it was

reported he was shedding Arbamoff files. :mad:

[WePurrsevere]

61. Jeb did!?! What unbelievable nerve. I can't believe this bunch are getting

away with all of this! :grr:

[KT2000]

13. Sure do

Little Lord pissypants referred to it after the fact as well.

[bvar22]

16. I discounted it, but my girlfriend insisted "Something's Wrong".

We weren't as obsessed with politics at the time. I was a political cynic, pretty sure that Al Gore would follow Clinton into the WhiteHouse, but that not much would change. My girlfriend was more informed than me, but way short of political activism.

I was sitting on the couch with my mate, casually watching the returns and eating popcorn. I only vaguely remember the particular scene in question, but I remember my mate suddenly sitting upright and saying "Something's wrong. Something's bad wrong. They are too sure." She was clearly upset and frightened.
I remember her face, voice, and body language as clearly as I remember where I was when JFK was assassinated. At the time, I was pretty sure that she was over reacting and tried to calm her.
She maintained that "Something is bad wrong, I KNOW it."

I still didn't fully believe that a Presidential Election could be "STOLEN" in the USA, but
based on my girlfriend's perception (and my trust in her), I began to follow the Florida fiasco.
Before that night, I had NEVER used the internet to access political information, but I began searching for sites that could provide information that wasn't being covered by the MSM. I remember the finding the pictures of the participants of the "Brooks Brothers Riot" with the identifications as Republican staffers. I remember the SC Decision of bush* v Gore and JPStevens dissent.
Sometime in late Jan or Feb 2001, I discovered DU (IIRC from a link at Buzzflash).
I've been here ever since.

I asked her to read this post. She said she doesn't remember anyone saying "It's covered" or anything like that. She just remembers the look on their faces and their absolute confidence that Florida was theirs no matter what the media was reporting.

[WePurrsevere]

20. The words are hard to remember after all this time but the looks & feeling

we experienced tend to stay with us much longer I think (much like you memory of JFK and my own... and I was only a few months shy of 4). I was pretty upset as well but it was nothing to how I felt the night Bush was given the Presidency by the SCOTUS. Normally I'm a fairly calm rational person but I was totally horrified... I said "OMG the SOB will get us all killed, we'll be at war within a year or two" and even though I knew how melodramatic it sounded I was as sure of that as I am that Bush at the very least LIHOP if not MIHOP with 9/11.

All the evidence and even gut feelings added up and to many of us, even back then, we may or may not have been able to put our finger on exactly what it was with Bush but we knew what type of person Bush was.. and is. It's great that this incident galvanized you to looking for more info and wonderful that you trusted and believed in your GF so much. I've been using the Internet steadily since 1991 so I was lucky that I already had a small network of fellow "Liberals" to talk with.. it helps when others pick up stuff that would perhaps make you wonder if it was your imagination or such if you didn't.

[Auntie Bush]

42. I remember when someone entered the room and announced Gore

the winner. The Bush clan were all in disbelief and questioned the results as if to say they didn't believe it. I remember their expression as well as my name because my instant thought was...What do they know that we don't know? Why should they question the results? I was immediately suspicious even though I had never worried about election fraud in the US. There was something about their expressions that had "cheat or fraud" written all over it. I also remember thinking that is the first time I ever heard of someone not believing in the results and challenging them. I thought...how arrogant! I just knew they cheated at that very moment. It doesn't even matter what they said. The arrogance and expressions told all. The bastards! The who lot of them! Words fail me! Too bad we can't give them a lie detector test. That one theft destroyed our country. That was the biggest heist in US history. Little did we know what was coming and they were about to heist our treasury and our children's and their children's money. Trillions! And to think we let him get away with doing it again! That really sucks!

[KnowerOfLogic]

45. My impressions exactly; it seemed odd that they would question the call

and the expression on dumya's face suggested to me immediately that he knew something - that he knew he had an ace in the hole and there was nothing for him to worry about.

[WePurrsevere]

66. They truly are an amazing piece of work aren't they.. the whole darn lot.

Hopefully someday history will prove what we already know and karma will have something to say about "pay back" to these ANTI-American criminals.

[Libby2]

25. That wasn't quite the moment for me

but it was the general time frame.

It was when smirk swaggered back in his chair, and said, "My brother promised me Florida, and I'm going to win Florida.
I knew it was all over except the shouting."

[Divine Discontent]

26. ugh.. y'all making me sick

because I remember all this, and it's just so disgusting.... ya know they stole it. what are we to do 5 years later? we are to help PREVENT in any way we can, this evil from happening again.

CAN WE HAVE PEOPLE WATCH THE ELECTION STAFF'S EVERY MOVE? or do we have to go to court for that?

cause in Ohio, I saw where the one county threw every one out after the voting ended and no one, not even news, was allowed to watch the counting...

SICK

http://www.cafepress.com/sureshotcheney

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

27. I was at a party that night.....

....so I didn't pay much attention to the little nuances, but my mother recalls that when Jeb and Dumbya were informed Gore had taken Florida, the response was sort of along the lines of "That's not possible.".

[WePurrsevere]

31. That sounds familiar... your mother may have a better memory then I. I'd

truly like to know what exactly was said not that it makes any difference.. the basic gist is the same.. and I know my memory of the looks on both Bush boys faces and feelings I had are not wrong.. that much has remained strong.

[Mme. Defarge]

33. What I remember is

all of the hype before the '00 election about how it would all come down to Florida. Then, in '04, the hype was "it will all come down to Ohio."

I firmly believe that this outfit not only fixed both elections, but were arrogant and brazen enough to toy with us over it. They were not only screwing us, but rubbing it in our faces as well. There is simply no way they could have been that precisely accurate in their predictions for both elections unless the elections had been fixed.

[MissWaverly]

36. an interesting detail

Giuliani wrote a book on leadership, I remember he noted that when he went down to Florida
to help with the campaign in 2000, all the Bush brothers wanted to talk about was sports.
He thought it was a little strange.

[WePurrsevere]

62. I remember that as well. It was when I knew the"fix" was in for OH as well

How on earth could so many of us see this stuff and still be seen as "tin foil hatters"? I used to believe in the process at least.. I did a lot of "get out the vote" type of stuff and still do on a smaller scale. We need to repair our election system so that every person who votes will KNOW with absolute certainty that their vote is counted and truly matters. If we can't then maybe we could do an absentee ballot campaign to force a paper trail and hand count.

[masshole]

35. Here's some good links about the 2000 selection

http://polaris.gseis.ucla.edu/pagre/florida.html

http://liesofbush.com/2000election.shtml

[jbnow]

37. There is this, from the Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/US_election_race/Story/0,2763,396470,00.html
Sunday November 12, 2000
The Observer

<snip>
And there was a message from Bill Daley, Gore's heavy-hitting campaign manager: 'Don't let him concede. It's not over yet. 'Five minutes later, Gore was on the telephone to Austin for a second time that night. 'Circumstances,' he said, once through to the Governor of Texas, 'have changed. I need to withdraw my concession until the situation is clear'. 'Let me make sure I understand, Mr Vice-President,' said Bush. 'You're calling me back to retract your concession'. 'There's no need to get snippy about it,' said Gore. Bush replied that his brother Jeb was the Governor in charge of the Florida ballot. Gore's voice retorted: 'It may surprise you but your younger brother is not the ultimate authority on this.' 'Mr Vice-President,' said BushÍs voice, 'You need to do what you have to do.'

[MissWaverly]

40. I can't believe he said that

Bush replied that his brother Jeb was the Governor in charge of the Florida ballot.
Why didn't the major papers in this country run this, the Governor is not in charge
of the elections. What about when he runs for reelection, he would then be in charge
of the counting of his own votes, what baloney.

[WePurrsevere]

63. This bunch obviously think that they hold all the cards & are untouchable.

Disgusting isn't it? Everytime I hear news snippets that I missed before I get angrier and more disgusted that they're still in power at all and that any REAL "old style" Republican would back them at all.

[benburch]

38. We Interrupt This Thread For An Important Announcement!!!

[MissWaverly]

39. Hey, I just donated, go grovel somewhere else!

Miss Waverly

[bleever]

41. I remember. It happened like this:

Jeb was asked about election night 2000, and his memories of it. The part that stuck so distinctly in my memory was what he said about the early call of Florida for Gore. I'm paraphrasing here, but it was something very much like this:

I was having dinner with my dad and my brother when we heard the networks say that we had lost Florida. I stood up and apologized for not having done what I said I'd do, and left to go make phone calls, help turn out the vote in other states.

Five and a half years later, I still can feel the reaction I had when I heard that account. It just didn't sound right.


How could his evening phone calls help drive up turnout in other states at that point? Working the radio talk shows? Pep talks to local precinct captains? He knew (as well as anyone) that without Florida, the election was in all probability lost. Pennsylvania had already gone to Gore, and the odds against winning the electoral college were approaching zero.


So still I wonder: who did Jeb get on the phone to? If it was local radio shows, there would be some record of that. If it was precinct chairs and party get-out-the-vote workers, what difference could it possibly have made? Isn't it much more plausible that he was setting in motion the wheels to take Florida out of Gore's column, by any and all means necessary?

And is there any avenue by which his phone logs of that evening could ever be made public?


More questions than answers here, but there you have it.

[wakemewhenitsover]

43. I remember that Jeb was crying.

[KnowerOfLogic]

44. Remember something similar; struck me as odd at the time, like he knew s.t

something.

[bobbieinok]

47. W complained that some had called FL for Gore---he 'knew' that was wrong

something to this effect was said in interview late that evening.....bushco forced networks to rescind calling FL for Gore

[FreedomAngel82]

49. Is there no video of this?

I remember in Moore's F911 film he shows George and Jeb on a plane and they're so overly confident they're going to win. Much more than usual. Usually you have confidence but this was different. Don't forget another sign is Bush buying his "ranch." He bought it shortly before he "won" in 2000. And remember Bush's cousin worked for Fox and called the election for him. This point in time is probably when Jeb went to call this cousin and told him what to do and so it began.

[WePurrsevere]

65. Shadder in post #10 said he probably has a copy on video. I'd love to see

it as well. At least now I know we're not the only ones who remember seeing this and feeling the same way. With this many folks recalling it in such similar ways (with this much time exact would be unlikely) at least we know it happened.

Although I have not yet seen F911 (someone kindly suggested the library since we can't afford to buy it quite yet)... I remember seeing on the news that clip with them in the plane and thinking how terribly strange it was but I put it down to the normal political "rah rah" strutting... but I think that was a part of myv knowing for sure when I saw that snippet on election night.

I didn't know about Bush buying the ranch around then. All I know about the ranch is something my husband found interesting and that is that it's apparently all run with alt. energy and can be or is totally off the grid.

I remember the cousin working for Fox and all the nonsense that occured about that. Jeb called either or both his cousin and Harris I'll bet but how can one prove it after all these years?

With all the "circumstantial evidence" surrounding BushCo and the neo-con power play a normal person would be convicted and thrown in jail, yet this bunch are still in power with an increasing amount of blood on their hands.

[Bridget Burke]

67. Hunter S Thompson saw it....

Here's an excerpt from his ESPN column:

There was one exact moment, in fact, when I knew for sure that Al Gore would never be President of the United States, no matter what the experts were saying-- and that was when the whole Bush family suddenly appeared on TV and openly scoffed at the idea of Gore winning Florida. It was Nonsense, said the Candidate, Utter nonsense. . . Anybody who believed Bush had lost Florida was a Fool. The Media, all of them, were Liars & Dunces or treacherous whores trying to sabotage his victory. . . Here was the whole bloody Family laughing & hooting & sneering at the dumbness of the whole world on National TV. The old man was the real tip-off. The leer on his face was almost frightening. It was like looking into the eyes of a tall hyena with a living sheep in its mouth. The sheep's fate was sealed, and so was Al Gore's. -

"The Fix is In" (November 27, 2000)

www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/12/15/111318/92

In the days before that election, I had a nervous feeling in the pit of my stomach. We knew it would be close. But I'd survived Nixon, Reagan & Bush I. Still, that feeling would not go away. I feel asleep watching TV, thinking Gore had won. Then I awoke to Dan Rather's hoarse voice. When I got to work, the paper dispensers were empty--an edition had been pulled because of the "wrong" headline.

"That feeling" is still there.

[WePurrsevere]

68. *"That feeling" is still there.* ~ Yeah, for me too, but coupled with more

anger, disgust, frustration, distrust and cynicism... which is something I never was very much until election 2000.

In a way I feel like our whole country has been viciously raped and the rapist is not only running around loose but in our face, laughing at us and what he thinks is our inability to fight against him. :grr: HOWEVER one thing I know in my heart still is true is that justice WILL prevail and the people of this country will persevere against this mad man and his accomplices in time.