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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:21 AM
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McCain not happy with Obama.
John McCain was not impressed with Obama's change of heart. Neither am I. Reform is necessary and I think McCain is ONE repug who is genuine about it.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:25 AM
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1. Well, I'll bet Obama ain't happy with McCain, either, so they are even
McCain still has that sweaty hug of Porgie to live down...and in my book, he's got a long way to go before I can get that image out of my mind.

Here's the shot no photographer caught:
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:28 AM
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6. EWWWW!
Is McCain grabbing g's crotch??
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:29 AM
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8. It's a photoshop...but it sums it all up, eh??? n/t
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avitali Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:25 AM
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2. Please
McCain? Sincere? Think "Keating Five."
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:32 AM
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10. Every time I see McCain I think of the Keating Five
Sometimes I feel like the only one who remembers. Glad to see you remember it too.
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ptolle Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:47 AM
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13. opportunism
It's almost beyond irony that McCain accuses Obama of opportunism when I can't think of a bigger opportunist than McCain himself.Sometimes I'm not too sure but what the repiglicons didn't get it right in South Carolina 2000 when they implied that Mccain's captivity unhinged him.His almost instantaneous cave on the antiabuse measure he trumpeted and got passed then disappeared when the chimperor called king's X with his "signing statement". I've no respect for McCain at all. Never had very much and any little that I'd once held is long since evaporated. This tends to convince me that He's pretty much the typical repig bully P.Oed in this instance because he couldn't buffalo a freshman senator. I call BS on the whole thing, and pizzonim on mccain.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:53 AM
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14. You'd do well to bring that all up
Edited on Tue Feb-07-06 11:55 AM by StClone
Should Mad Dog McCain rise up in the Prez. Polls.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:25 AM
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3. Obama only said Reid's bill should be the basis for reform
You can see by Boehner's election just how much the Repukes really want to reform anything. They will gut McCain yet again, but McCain will say he tried. Obama was in the right, very clearly, on this one, and McCain is the partisan. They know if Reid's bill gets used as the opening bid, they're totally fucked, money-wise.

The idea here is to SEEM to reform or at least scream loudly that you are. Boehner cares about this issue so deeply he handed out tobacco lobby checks on the floor of the house, while it was in session.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:26 AM
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4. McCain is also genuine when he hugs Bush.
They are so many reasons they should feel that way about each other.
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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:26 AM
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5. Dont be fooled by McCain please...nt
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madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:28 AM
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7. I disagree...
From what I've read about the situation, McCain is insisting on reform via the Republican way, not in a bi-partisan way.

Read the letter exchanges between McCain & Obama:


Obama's response:
http://obama.senate.gov/letter/060206-sen_obama_and_sen...

McCain's response:
http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=NewsCente...

And these words from Obama, which seem reasonable as opposed to McCains vitrolic whining:

am puzzled by your response to my recent letter. Last Wednesday morning, you called to invite me to your meeting that afternoon. I changed my schedule so I could attend the meeting. Afterwards, you thanked me several times for attending the meeting, and we left pledging to work together.

As you will recall, I told everyone present at the meeting that my caucus insisted that the consideration of any ethics reform proposal go through the regular committee process. You didn't indicate any opposition to this position at the time, and I wrote the letter to reiterate this point, as well as the fact that I thought S. 2180 should be the basis for a bipartisan solution.

I confess that I have no idea what has prompted your response. But let me assure you that I am not interested in typical partisan rhetoric or posturing. The fact that you have now questioned my sincerity and my desire to put aside politics for the public interest is regrettable but does not in any way diminish my deep respect for you nor my willingness to find a bipartisan solution to this problem.

Sincerely,

Barack Obama
United States Senator
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:30 AM
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9. McCain is a hack. This is nothing but a stunt.
He calls out Obama for refusing to call the ethics violations and crimes of the Abramoff scandal a "bipartisan" problem? And exactly how does a private letter to another Senator make it into the press the next morning? Oh he's genuine all right.
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nancyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:43 AM
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12. McCain is a hack.
Precisely!
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 11:35 AM
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11. Brokeback (Campaign) Trail
Another one of him cuddling up the very guy who slimed him and his family:



:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:02 PM
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15. Well too bad for Mr McCain
I'm quite proud of Obama for this.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:09 PM
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16. That's ridiculous,
Obama merely said that instead of having a task force to "study" the problem they should allow the committees of jurisdiction to get right to work on it since they know what the problems are...this is just posturing, since McCain is running again and he is afraid of Obama...

My old man Republican boss today even said he doesn't understand what McCain's problem is that Obama has bent over backward to be bipartisan, and that his letter is saying they should work on legislation that the MAJORITY of the Congress can support, rather bi-partison... But he(my boss) and all his Republican friends ALL hate McCain anyway....There are a lot of Republicans that can't stand McCain, and now the few Dem's that kinda liked him, are going to fall by the wayside too.
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:53 PM
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18. yes, but....
Obama is now supporting the Dems partisan plan co-aouthored by Leiberman. THAT guy is off my list. I'm done with him. Period.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 01:16 PM
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19. Leiberman, Partisan?
Hell, Leiberman has done more for the Republicans than any Dem...that should tell you that Obama is being Bipartisan right there.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:15 PM
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17. Fuck John McCain. n/t
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