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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 01:54 AM
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LURKING FREEPERS: I'm calling you out on your patriotism.
The highest level of patriotism one can do is defend their constitutional rights at home and abroad. And one of those freedoms is clearly stated in the 4th amendment of the bill of rights:

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


So by supporting Bush's wiretapping program by saying things like "oh, I've got nothing to hide" or "I'll gladly trade some of my freedoms if it means preventing another 9/11", guess what? You're giving away your fundamental rights guaranteed to us by the US Constitution. And that is unpatriotic.

So the next time you or the RNC or the right wing hate radio mongerers like Limbaugh or Hannity spouts that bullshit again, just remember that your patriotism, which you so proudly proclaim you have against the "evil left" is being questioned every time you're willing to trade away your freedoms in the hopes that it MIGHT prevent another 9/11.
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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 01:56 AM
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1. It's because they're girly men and whining mama's boys.
Explains why they never enlist for the wars they start, too.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 06:18 AM
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10. No need to insult "Girls" or Mamas"...
Edited on Tue Feb-07-06 06:22 AM by slor
they are scared little punks, plain and simple. I know plenty of Girls and Women that are willing to fight for the country against the angry little king.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:13 AM
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24. I think the term is
"Whiny-ass titty babies"
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 01:58 AM
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2. Not to mention the 2nd Amendment
:hi:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:10 AM
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4. I think that's the one they wont give up.
Screw the other 9 amendments, when can I shoot first and ask questions later?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:02 AM
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3. Their concept of America does not include the Constitution.
Their Frher says it is "only a piece of paper".
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 08:37 AM
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22. The constitution is so "pre-nineleven mindset" anyways
I mean it's like OLD you know?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 02:54 AM
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5. If you're not doing anything wrong you've got nothing to worry about
this is the kind of simplistic, utterly foolish thinking freepers are afflicted with
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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 04:12 AM
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6. When somebody says that, just start rifling through their stuff.
Plus, one of the founders' big fears was the power of the state. Is Nixon so distant a memory? Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin just some rumor told by old folks? We can watch Will Smith and Gene Hackman run for their lives, but the state abusing its power is not credible?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 05:06 AM
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7. that is a GREAT response
ask to see their tax records, LOL
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 05:17 AM
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9. ask them about when a leader (any party)
decides that political speech = a threat and "reason" to rifle through their stuff. What if that speech included as a tag for spying included any criticism of any former president - Reagan or Clinton... ? When one branch is given unbridled consent to define "threat" with NO oversight by anyone, with no regard to other branches of government, is there a point that they can see which goes too far? If so, just where is that point?
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 05:14 AM
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8. If I've got nothing to hide, then WHY should the government be searching
my property?

Just ask 'em that.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:25 AM
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15. "If you've got nothing to hide, why worry about it!"
I guess that means "Let It All Hang Out!"

"If you got it flaunt it!"

Those Freepers are perverts, I've said it all along and that statement about "having nothing to hide" proves it. BY GAWD...be proud of that thang!
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 06:19 AM
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11. False patriotism...false idols...false character...
that about sums it up for the majority of these folk.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:11 PM
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28. So you're saying everything is fake, then?
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:32 PM
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31. Heheheh. In the lunatic world of the Freeper?
Yes. :hi:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 01:23 PM
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33. America = Bizarro World
This aint the country I grew up in!
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 06:36 AM
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12. They're not Patriots, they're HUGH LOOSERS
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:03 AM
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13. Every time an American advocates ANY weakening of our ...
Constitution and the rule of law, that very person is providing Aid and Comfort, to guys like Osama Bin Laden, who wants to tear down the American way of life forever! "Everything has changed since 9/11", means the terrorists have accomplished their core mission, to create enough panic, or terror in America, to bring the country's core values down. Every time ANY American says in public, that Everything in America has changed since 9/11, then that person surrendered to the terrorists, on 9/11. Those people, surrender America's Civil Rights, FREEDOM and LIBERTY! My, Freedom And Liberty, and that pisses me off.

Nothing changed for me on 9/11, except for the amount of contempt and hatred I have, for ANY enemy of MY country! PERIOD! The Cowards are afraid, the people with any brains, are pissed off! I feel no more threatened, or terrified, or bullshitted, TODAY, than I felt on 9/10/01. I do feel angry as hell, at anyone who delivers up my county on a silver platter, by being terrified. The terrorists thrive on cowardice.

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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:14 AM
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14. No, no your wrong. Patriotic means an American flag speedo.
And an American flag on your SUV antenna. Patriotic is everything liberals aren't.

:sarcasm:


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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:25 AM
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16. And don't forget
that flag on the SUV must be tattered and weathered. :puke:

Jenn
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 08:21 AM
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19. Oh, yeah! Just like the one at Wal-Mart.
:hi:
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:46 AM
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26. a tattered flag made in CHINA!!!
:patriot:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:13 PM
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30. Dont forget hundreds of Jesus bumper stickers to go along with that!
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:57 AM
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17. Yeah, but don't ask them to give up their gun rights.
We just wanted a way to prevent homeland terrorists from getting a gun, they'd rather give up the PRESS!!!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 08:01 AM
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18. You can always find freepers where they stash their trash...
always in the back yard. If they have one.

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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 08:28 AM
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20. Neocon's want to hide everything THEY do
and search everything YOU do.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 08:35 AM
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21. Let might look here
but you will never get anything through those hard headed f*ckers. Anyone who thinks dubby will go down as the best pRes ever is hopeless.

The only thing that will get their attention is if you threaten to enforce taxation on them and ask about the gun thing. They will march in lockstep with the fascists until it is too late for them.

Sorry deluded bastards; I feel sorry for them.


Loosers!
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 08:39 AM
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23. FReepers, this administration is going to have to take away your guns
That's the only way that they can take away OUR guns.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:33 AM
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25. The only Amendment that matters to them is the Second n/t
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:12 PM
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29. Yeah, it sucks that they completely ignore the other 9.
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 09:48 AM
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27. "Take my liberty, I'm scared of death"
The new version of Patrick Henry's quote, designed especially for the modern American right-winger.

Cowards, every one.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 12:58 PM
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32. Don't forget their idea of patriotism also means ...
not showing the faces of our dead soldiers on tv.

Ted Koppell did this on Nightline and was accused of being anti-American - -

for showing the names and faces of fallen soldiers!!

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