"Kosovo debacle"? Would that be the zero US combat fatalities suffered

[norml]

in Kosovo, or the zero US combat fatalities suffered in all of the former nation of Yugoslavia that's the debacle?

Could the debacle be that regime change was achieved at a very low financial cost?

Or could it be that the war criminals of the former Yugoslavia were successfully tried in the Hague, rather than being tried at some Judge Ito like show trial, such as what Saddam's getting?

Could it be that we had a real coalition that held together going into the former Yugoslavia, rather than just us, Britain, and a coalition of the dwindling that causes them to characterize Kosovo as a debacle?

How about the quality of life and the quality of public safety in the former Yugoslavia verses the quality of those things in Iraq?

Is the debacle in Kosovo that it's too quiet, too safe, has too high of a standard of living when compared to Iraq or even for that matter to Afghanistan?

I guess the debacle must be that things went so well in the former Yugoslavia that hardly anyone notices that there was even a war.

I guess you need to preside over a series of real disasters to be known as a great leader.

[pansypoo53219]

1. actually

7 died in a helicopter crash, 1 commited suicide, and one they never said how that soldier died. but not combat.
i started a tally when McNiell/lehrer has these chats with amerikans aand oh oh, our soldeirs are gonna die(by the way playing was more deadly as abut 200 or so died not at war.)

[norml]

3. OK, on edit I changed it to "zero combat fatalities"

rather than "zero casualties".

I wasn't thinking of accidents or suicides.

Still, suffering only one copter crash, and one suicide isn't doing too badly.

[applegrove]

2. Yes. NATO went in and followed actual battle plans drawn up by

military experts. They came up with a plan and followed it. Instead of what Rummy did - which was to come up with a plan, and cut it in half. I guess the assumptions he made were than he didn't want to win Iraq. I guess he needed an insurgency to give the USA the excuse to be there for years.

I cannot wait until November.

[unblock]

4. it was a debacle because halliburton didn't make a brazillion bucks on it.

[LWolf]

5. FYI

If you had someone under fire over there, you "noticed" that there was a war going on.

I agree with the rest of your statements up to a point, that point being that there is no such thing as a clean war with zero loss of life. I count all lives in conflict, not just those from one nation. I don't consider war a legitimate method of accomplishing anything.