The Danish have done this sort of thing before. (10/15/05)

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I found this blog post from October. Check out this cartoon. It's only slightly less inflammatory. http://angrygwn.mu.nu/archives/126452.php



Here's more from Michelle Malkin's site. She's actually hosting them.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004413.htm

[formernaderite]

1. These cartoons were actually posted back in September

but the controversy grew over the internet, which is why we're hearing about it now.

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2. Even the Mohamed with the bomb turban?

I thought the internet was just a little more efficient than this.

[muriel_volestrangler]

3. Yes, all of them were published back then

I note the 'babyboom' cartoon was described by the blog as equivalent to others by the same cartoonist that might offend Christians (attacking the Pope) and Jews (attacking Sharon).

[bloom]

5. There has been a concerted effort since Jan. 31 to inflame this

Originally they were posted in Sept. and then more were posted

in November:

In November another Danish newspaper, WeekendAvisen, published another 10 satirical pictures of Muhammed.<3>
3 November - The German newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung publishes one of the cartoons


in January:

1 January - The Danish Prime Minister makes his yearly New Year's speech, emphasising that both religion and Freedom of Speech are respected in Denmark.
10 January - The Norwegian Christian newspaper Magazinet publishes the drawings.
22 January - The Brussels Journal publishes the pictures

31 January:
- The Icelandic newspaper DV publishes six of the twelve drawings.
- The German newspaper die tageszeitung publishes two of the cartoons.


Apparently there wasn't enough reaction - so in February there has been more postings:

1 February:
The French newspaper France Soir publishes the cartoons, adding one of their own. Chief editor Jacques Lefranc is fired later the same day by owner Raymond Lakah, a French-Egyptian binational and Roman Catholic<26>. The French Government dissociates itself from the initiative<27>.
The German newspaper Die Welt publishes some of the cartoons<28>, as do the German newspapers Tagesspiegel and Berliner Zeitung.
Italian La Stampa publishes the pictures.
Spanish El Periódico de Catalunya publishes the pictures.
The Dutch papers Volkskrant, NRC Handelsblad and Elsevier publish the pictures.
Geert Wilders, leader of the Dutch political party Group Wilders and holder of Group Wilder's seat in the Dutch parliament, puts the drawings on his personal web site.

2 February:
German newspaper Die Zeit publishes one of the cartoons on page 5. <34>
The Jordanian newspaper al-Shihan prints the drawings. The newspaper's manager is fired.<35>
The American newspaper New York Sun publishes two of the cartoons<36>.
The Belgian newspaper Le Soir publishes two of the drawings. <37>
The French newspaper Le Monde publishes a drawing of Muhammad's face formed only from words. The words read "I may not draw the Prophet."
The Swiss newspapers Le Temps and Tribune de Genève publish some of the cartoons, as does the Hungarian newspaper Magyar Hirlap. <38>
The Portuguese newspaper Público publishes one of the drawings - the most heated one - Muhammed with a bomb on his head.
The BBC shows the pictures on its news programmes but edits the image of the Prophet out of the scenes
The cartoons are shown in British television news programmes on ITV and Channel 4.
The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer on PBS displays some of the images in its segment on the issue.

3 February:
The Belgian newspapers De Standaard publishes the cartoons.
Het Volk prints drawings of the prophet by Flemish cartoonists and says Belgian papers should publish such caricatures every week "so that Muslims can get used to the idea." <45>
The weekly New Zealand newspaper National Business Review prints one of the cartoons. <46>
Australian TV broadcasters SBS and ABC show images of some of the cartoons in their evening news bulletins

4 February:
The daily New Zealand newspaper The Dominion Post prints the cartoons and an accompanying article, including text from the Wikipedia article on the topic.
The Polish newspaper Rzeczpospolita publishes the cartoons, much like the most influential Czech daily MF DNES.
The Danish newspaper Dagbladet Information publishes twelve Anders Fogh Rasmussen cartoons.<59>



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy

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7. Thanks for that.

:thumbsup:

[tocqueville]

4. no it's not the internet...

the Danish muslim clerics were pissed at the mostly harmless cartoons except 2. One cartoon asks the question "who is Mohammed ?" and the the answer is a smiling "arabic looking" teenager writing a verse of the Koran on a blackboard... just to give an example... Another depicts a man walking alone in the desert...

They sued the newspaper and were dismissed

then they started to lobby abroad, and nothing really happened. Until the cartoons were reposted in some European newspapers - I suspect that only Norway - had a hidden agenda because the cartoons were posted in an extremist paper.

Then the whole thing explodes in the Muslim world, when 99,9% of the offended never read a Danish, Norwegian, French or German paper. Besides the stuff wasn't shown on any TV (or blurred) and the cartoons are difficult to find on the web unless you spell correctly in English or French...

it's obvious that there is a political agenda behind all this, and I don't think it was plotted in Europe... unless the CIA has infiltrated the major European editors...

[Kagemusha]

6. I offered a little info on this brief thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=322234&mesg_id=322234

Basically how the clerics went touring the middle east spreading outrage about cartoons that WEREN'T published in Denmark, which were far worse than that posted above here.

[tocqueville]

8. question is, who made the "fake cartoons" ? nt

[Kagemusha]

9. It matters only who demanded they appear out of thin air

Problem is I think a lot of people are taking the attitude that had the fake ones been published, that would've been free speech too so therefore OK.

[tocqueville]

11. not in Europe

representing the prophet as a pig or a pedophile is considered as hate speech, racism and falls outside free speech.

but in all fairness, I must say if someone has represented Moses with a sword in hand slaying babies, the author had automatically be considered as anti-semite. The difference is, if you make a joke about Moses and the ten commandments ("oops I forgot the 11th") even the Jews think it's funny. If you made a similar joke about Mohammed and the Koran (for example some ink dot that fells at scripture and changes the meaning of a sentence) you are in big trouble among Muslims.

Montesquieu and Voltaire were very critical about Islam, since they saw it as a worse variation of Christianity.
They wrote stuff that is not really printable today, and they were the Fathers of Enlightment.

Bible thumpers and Islamic fanatics are basically the same kind of people. You cannot fight the one without fighting the other.

[msongs]

10. islamic rules only apply to islamic believers - shows insecurity

about their own faith I would say, that it is such a weak belief that cartoons of any sort no matter how ugly
would cause them such alleged distress. Willing to bet that most of this so called protest in the streets
is calculated and whipped up by some extremists elements for their own gain.

I do not find the baby bomb cartoon bad at all, it is no worse than the mother elected by hamas who bragged
about sending her kids into israel as murder bombers.


Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

[Kellanved]

12. "The Danish" ?

Hello?

You might have a point about editor x or catoonist y - but "The Danish", that's just stupid.

[HEyHEY]

13. bah!

You just don't know the Danes.... slippery bastards, them! All you need to do is read Hamlet.