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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 07:14 PM
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AP: Cheney, Rumsfeld fought to impose wiretaps thirty years ago
Edited on Fri Feb-03-06 07:57 PM by cal04
AP: Cheney, Rumsfeld fought to impose wiretaps for foreign intelligence thirty years ago

An intense debate erupted during the Ford administration over the president's powers to eavesdrop without warrants for foreign intelligence purposes, according to government documents obtained by The Associated Press, RAW STORY has learned. The AP exclusive, "White House, Congress wrangled over spying three decades ago," is slotted to move to the wires soon. "George H.W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney are cited in the papers, which reflect a remarkably similar dispute between the White House and Congress fully three decades before President Bush's acknowledgment that he authorized wiretaps of some Americans without warrants in terrorism investigations," writes AP reporter Margaret Ebrahim. This occurred before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which restricted domestic spying.

Background on FISA from Facts on File:
"President Carter signed the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act into law Oct. 25, 1978. It was the first major legislation to restrict national security wiretapping. "The bill required the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Central Intelligence Agency and other federal agencies to obtain court approval before conducting most electronic surveillance in foreign intelligence cases. "The exception was for certain National Security Agency operations, such as the interception of communications between a foreign embassy and its government. Unless evidence of criminal activity could be presented to a court, the "bugging" of Americans was banned.

"All of the U.S. intelligence agencies were on record in favor of the final bill. The American Civil Liberties Union also supported the legislation but objected to the NSA warrant exemption."

DEVELOPING...

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/AP_Cheney_Rumsfeld_fought_to_impose_0203.html

Docs: Similar Wiretap Debate 30 Years Ago
An intense debate erupted during the Ford administration over the president's powers to eavesdrop without warrants to gather foreign intelligence, according to newly disclosed government documents. George H.W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney are cited in the documents. The roughly 200 pages of historic records obtained by The Associated Press reflect a remarkably similar dispute between the White House and Congress fully three decades before President Bush's acknowledgment he authorized wiretaps without warrants of some Americans in terrorism investigations.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060204/ap_on_go_pr_wh/ford_era_spying_1
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 07:17 PM
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1. Why I am not surprised by this?
Once a facist, always a facist....
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 07:18 PM
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2. K&R - they're back at it...
Fascist fuckers!:grr:
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 07:21 PM
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3. Proof that they've ALWAYS had your security in mind.
If Cheney and Rumsfeld had their way, the world would be at peace right now and terrorism would not exist, see?

;)
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 07:26 PM
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4. During the Church Commission, they subpoeaned the major
telecom heads to make them testify how they did things like submit EVERY telegram going out or coming into the US

Pres. Ford came very close to extending Executive Privilege to these execs, but realized he couldn't get away with it
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Karmakaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 07:29 PM
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5. Hmm...
Looks like a mod has something against Raw Story...

"Please make an effort to link directly to the original source of an article, instead of linking to sites that have re-published someone else's content, or re-packaged someone else's content as their own."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2085029

So does that mean that 90% of newspapers etc are now banned from LBN when they repeat an AP or other wire service story? Do all AP articles have to be referenced to the AP homepage?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 07:33 PM
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6. "The Long March of Dick Cheney" Sidney Blumenthal
Read it if you get a chance -- explains a lot and will scare the crap out of you.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/112505N.shtml

<snip>

The Long March of Dick Cheney
By Sidney Blumenthal
Salon.com

Thursday 24 November 2005

For his entire career, he sought untrammeled power. The Bush presidency and 9/11 finally gave it to him - and he's not about to give it up.
The hallmark of the Dick Cheney administration is its illegitimacy. Its essential method is bypassing established lines of authority; its goal is the concentration of unaccountable presidential power. When it matters, the regular operations of the CIA, Defense Department and State Department have been sidelined.

Richard Nixon is the model, but with modifications. In the Nixon administration, the president was the prime mover, present at the creation of his own options, attentive to detail, and conscious of their consequences. In the Cheney administration, the president is volatile but passive, firm but malleable, presiding but absent. Once his complicity has been arranged, a closely held "cabal" - as Lawrence Wilkerson, once chief of staff to former Secretary of State Colin Powell, calls it - wields control.

Within the White House, the office of the vice president is the strategic center. The National Security Council has been demoted to enabler and implementer. Systems of off-line operations have been laid to evade professional analysis and a responsible chain of command. Those who attempt to fulfill their duties in the old ways have been humiliated when necessary, fired, retired early or shunted aside. In their place, acolytes and careerists indistinguishable from true believers in their eagerness have been elevated.

The collapse of sections of the façade shielding Cheney from public view has not inhibited him. His former chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby, indicted on five counts of perjury and obstruction of justice, appears to be withholding information about the vice president's actions in the Plame affair from the special prosecutor. While Bush has declaimed, "We do not torture," Cheney lobbied the Senate to stop it from prohibiting torture.

<snip>

Much much more at link
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 07:56 PM
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7. K&R n/t
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highnooner Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:08 PM
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8. But 9/11 changed everything!
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:10 PM
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9. Kick/Rec
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:13 PM
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10. Wow, we both posted the same thing only a minute apart
Let me guess - you're a Drudgeaholic also? ;)
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 06:35 PM
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11. K&R
Gawd, why were'nt these philangists put in jail for Iran-Contra. Think of the trouble we would have saved ourselves today.
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