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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:12 AM
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David Gregory just did some work for the darkside on the Today Show.
He just did a report that the people involved in the binding resolution against the "surge" were doing so for political reasons...Dems running for President.
Matt Lauer is now running with it, and has Bill Bennett on agreeing that this is political.... Lovely....
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:16 AM
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1. This is what Wes Clark pointed to the other day on Rachel Maddow's
show.

She asked if he was going to run and he said he didn't know because he cares so much about the policy and if he were running, the press and others would say his condemnation of the Bush policy would be about politics and not because he really believes the policy should be changed.

Sad, but true fact.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:16 AM
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2. Gee, 70% of Americans support withdrawal...just politics...
Support the chimp!
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:24 AM
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3. He's partly correct
Not all Dems, of course, but many of them are just going wherever the political winds take them. There are, however, candidates who have opposed * policy in Iraq from the start. These dems are not doing so for political reasons. So, unless he was making a blanket statement about all who oppose the surge, he's correct.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:40 AM
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4. my repug father last night. regardless of what bush does dem complain. dems
wanted troop increase now they are complaing. years ago i told dad. they have not been for increase for at least a year. plans (those plans media says dems dont have) have stated troop withdrawal for the last year. then we had to discuss the different plans that media keeps telling him dems dont have. damn... people just do not get the proper information from the news. they think they are informed. they think they are doig their job as a responsible citizen. but what they get is not right. no wonder it is so hard for them.

then

when they start talking with someone informed outside of msm it is very hard. because always i am either giving more info than what he has obtained or correctly the error msm has given for him. that has got to get old.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:41 AM
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5. so Carl Levitt is running?---nope. Dammit!
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:53 AM
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6. Its Wag the Dog all over again.....
When the GOP supports something like this its portrayed in the media as patriotic. Whereas with the Dems, its Monica all over again.

So, I guess the this is the new math on these kinds of actions:

Repubs = patriotism and love of country

Democrats = politically ambitious and totally self-serving

When are we ever going to get out from under this?

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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 08:07 AM
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7. When the Democrats say "Knock off the media sensationalism, or bring
in a qualified reporter, this is the ultimate reality teevee." on a LIVE interview, loudly for the world to hear.

That requires courage and possibly self-sacrifice (may not be getting too many invites back).

Know anyone with that kind of courage?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 08:24 AM
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8. The problem is that the media won't cover Dems who have that courage. It seems that MSM doesn't
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 08:25 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
realize that Kucinich is running for Pres again. And yesterday, Tim Russert said that Obama was the only Democrat running who was against the war from the beginning..hello???? Obama wasn't even in Nat'l politics then and didn't have a say, but Dennis did.....

And on the GOP side, Rep. Ron Paul is running and I believe he was against the war too.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 09:05 AM
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9. For Boooshie, This IS Politics...
He long ago wrote off the 51% who never voted for him or trusted him...we never really existed in his world of a rubber stamp congress and signing statements. His only concern has and always will be is his "base"...to be specific, the 30% or more of the electorate that think he walks on water. His numbers with his herd have slipped...especially on Iraq...from 80% to 40%. His reaction? Is to push those numbers back up through one of his greatest "assets"...his "strength"...or so he and his handlers feel.

This "surge" is personal to the manchild. It's not the numbers or the mission, and its surely not for any realistic objective, but purely a duel of wills now with any and all who question his authority or judgement. This is a "show of strength" on his front...to show us he's "still in charge" and "commander in chief". His bubble has now shrunk that he's fighting to keep the shrinking majority of his shrinking minority.

Eventually the attrition will force booshie's hand. While Democrats can push this process along by encouraging Repugnicans to come on over in shutting down various aspects of the Iraq war, it's gonna be boooshie who will be his own worst enemy here...isolating himself so totally that he'll be the lamest of lame ducks in his last year.

Of course the Repugnican talking points are gonna try to avoid the obvious, but we've seen how ineffective these efforts have become. It's getting harder for Bettamillion Bennett to get his spin out with a poker face and that Bennett's own credibility requires massive amounts of slime removal for any validity.

Let 'em keep shooting off their mouths...it seems to draw more to our causes and unifies us.
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 09:48 AM
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10. Heck ya, it's politics.
Its a bad policy opposed by 80% of the public and anyone who wants to be elected in 2008 better be on record as opposing it.

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