Why is CNN obsessed with "Coming War With Iran?" and we aren't?

[Leopolds Ghost]

It seems all too many DUers have fallen victim to the "Boy Who Cried Wolf".

Now, when Scarborough, Olbermann and Matthews are all over the story,

DU is like "yeah,yeah, you said that last year" or worse "yeah, yeah,
*I* said that last year."

3 Solid hours on CNN last light about how "the interpretation of Bush's
speech has turned around completely in the past 24 hours, what Bush did
was all but declare war on Iran." "Syria, too." "What can we do to stop
this madman?"

Meanwhile we are like "I'll believe it when I see it."

Thanks, Sy Hersh, for getting the dates wrong about 5 times on
your prediction of when the extra carrier group would arrive.
How can we stop it now?

[louis-t]

1. Because they need new material for "This Week at War"

God, I hate that title. Sounds like war is a sporting event.

[Leopolds Ghost]

2. Your message proves my point. We should share CNN's newfound outrage.

[Tesha]

3. They haven't had any cool green "Tracer rounds at night" video for a while.

They haven't had any new cool green starlight-scope-shot
"Tracer rounds at night" video to show us for a while,
and they've been Jonesing for some.



Tesha

[MoonRiver]

4. I don't get that impression at all.

I am reading many threads and posts expressing extreme alarm about *'s designs on Iran.
:shrug:

[KoKo]

6. Same here....many threads very worried about this and wondering if and how

we can stop it. :shrug:

[lancdem]

8. Neither do I

I noticed an increase starting yesterday.

[HereSince1628]

5. Bush's statement shook me, the NeoCons are ALWAYS out in the open

about their intentions (just look back over their record), and when I heard him I immediately said he's decided to provoke a war with Iran. Yesterday I was haunted with the knowledge that Bush had our military undertake an act of war via the consulate raid.

All the pieces to provoke a war are in place...new warplane deployments in Turkey, extra naval forces in the Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean, patriot missle redeployments, an Admiral being placed in charge of the US forces in the region...and undoubtedly more things that we haven't we heard of yet.

My anxiety isn't about what Sy Hersch or someone else wrote last year, it's about the words Cheney had coming out of Bush's mouth. The mad man has mad a decision to cover the Iraq failure by blaming Iran and expanding the conflict.

I'm with CNN on this one. When Olbermann and Scarborough agree the man has made this decision it's more than worth taking note.

[scarletwoman]

7. Wow, the early responses to your question seem to prove your point!

This shit is coming down and coming down fast, and people are still in denial. We are actually watching in real time as the plans that they've been drawing up for years are being implemented. It's happening before our very eyes.

The warnings have always been real, about real plans, about real people really intending to put these plans into action. Not being able to foretell the precise timetable does in no way render the actual facts null and void.

Bushco is going to do it. They're going to go war against Iran. Who's going to stop them?

sw

[blues90]

12. I agree with you

I did'nt think we would actually attack Iraq in 2003 but it happened .

Even though now we have dems as the majority and some are looking at ways to end the Iraq occupation if bush or cheney do one thing to trigger this Iran thing then it will be too late .

I do know Malloy and Randi are taking this serious as are many other people .

Also consider Israel , who knows what their plans are or how far they will go .

All this talk about troops to attack Iran troubles me because for the air attack you don;t need troops on the ground .

All that needs to happen is to start this thing and then how do you stop it . We may not succeed in this as a win but I don;t think they are in for a win just for more control and chaos and oil .

Many say the neocons are broken , I have seen no evidence of this so far .

Anything is possible at this point whether bush has the support or not .

It is truly something to be concerned about , it is no longer just talk , it seems to be in the works more all the time . Bushs speech wed did not help me feel better it made me feel more concerned .

[specimenfred1984]

9. Sure, it's sy hersh's fault, WTF?

My Virginia senators are now 1 dem and 1 repuke traitor. You ask "how can we stop it now"? Ask the repuke traitor Warner, he won't stop shit and neither will any other repuke traitors.

Let's kick the repuke traitors out of office, that's the only way to stop it and guess what, that ain't happening. This country is still way too full of bigots, brainwashed fundies, M$M-believing zombies, corporate fascists and centrist cowards who just want everybody to get along.

Americans are going to continue to die in larger numbers, which is why everybody was screaming about it a long time ago. Good for you that you're screaming about it now but don't blame a guy like Hersh who's provided the American public that was willing to listen a huge amount of information.

[Leopolds Ghost]

17. I just wish he wasn't so foolishly certain, to avoid Crying Wolf in 2005.

Obviously, guess-work was involved on the part of Hersh, et al.

Especially when it comes to the time-line.

When a military guy leaks date-certain,
it is strategic disinformation. Count on it.

It would have been nice to remain studiously vague on the time-line and emphasize the imminence of the threat -- and the actual developments.

Bush is a master of getting people worked-up. The modern-day antiwar movement, compared to the 60's, 70s, 90s, is not. Too much "told you so".

You can't outrage people 2 years before outrage is needed on a given subject, and expect to be able to go back to the same well, or worse,
chastise them for not talking about it "when it mattered".

The good news is most of the MSM ignored Sy Hersh, otherwise his incorrect date-certain predictions would have poisoned the well just as effectively as the tampered TANG memos, and even the Iranians would not believe us (which was probably Bush's intention in spreading false dates around.)

As it is, a lot of folks on DU seem to believe that "we warned the MSM" two years ago, even though our information at the time was highly premature.

based on guess work of a very predictable Administration in which every day is Opposite Day, but nevertheless, unprovable.

This is the first time a carrier battle-group has been deployed that actually meets Hersh's description, AIUI.

We should start fresh and assume that this is the first time most people have heard about the Bush plans for Iran.

Saying "I knew about this 2 years ago when Sy Hersh told us it would happen in June 2006" will not help the situation.

Not to mention the many DUers who still think it's all a hoax to make
money from the oil markets.

[Skidmore]

10. The war with Iran has already been joined. I'm waiting for the media

to recognize that instead of obsessing on when it might happen.

[melody]

11. I think what DU'ers are TRYING to do

... is keep things in perspective. Yes, he may well bomb Iran/Syria, but chances are he's going to have a LOT of people standing in his way. I wouldn't be stunned beyond words if, at this point, we had a military coup even. Regardless, we have to (try to) live in the world that comes after, no matter what.

I think CNN is trying to lift their ratings, and also covering it just in case it all blows up and they might be seen as being caught napping.

[Jacobin]

13. AEI has told the WH what its foreign policy is

AEI is very high behind blowing up Iran.

It makes no sense.

It doesn't have to make sense.

Bush isn't running for re-election and doesn't care about the republican party. He's already screwed it to the wall.

Congress is too afraid of looking 'weak' to do anything serious to stop it.

See: 2002 elections when they were 'forced' to vote for the IWR right before those elections and they made stupid decisions to support it.

The WH has usurped domestic powers and the military to its own private use and congress and the courts won't stop it in time.

I will bet serious money that we will invade or significantly attack Iran this calendar year.

(BTW, I didn't think Britain would go along with IraqNam. I was wrong. I know Britain won't go along with Iran bombing.)

[shadowknows69]

14. Obsessed and terrified Mr. Ghost I assure you

But what can I do except wait for the shock and awe.

[McCamy Taylor]

15. Because their Saudi masters have told them to hype it up.

U.S. attacks Iran enough times, eventually Iran will embargo its oil and so will Venezuela.

U.S. will be forced to buy its oil from Saudi Arabia which can price gouge us. Did I say price gouge? I meant PRICE GOUGE. Saudi Arabia can charge the U.S. whatever it wants for the duration of the hostilities. U.S. oil companies will also raise prices. Both will make BIG BIG BIG $$$.

Plus, this will cause Shia interests in the Middle East lots of trouble.


And this is the Iran Does Not Respond to U.S. Provocation by Firing Back Scenerio.

If Iran is foolish enough to get into a war with the U.S., Saudi Arabia is set to sweep into total Sunni control of the entire Middle East.

[donheld]

16. Some of us have passed that stage

We have harped on the coming Iran war for quite some times now. It's CNN that is finally catching up.

[smalll]

18. So you're compaining that for once, DU

HASN'T gone into a full four-alarm Chicken Little of The Apocalypse panic about something????

Pervert! :crazy:

[Leopolds Ghost]

20. Listen, sir, I must speak to the President of the United States. All I need is a quarter.

"The entire world is at stake!" --

-- "All right. But... none of your Pre-versions, y'hear? I'm watching you!"

[ellisonz]

19. There will be no war/attack on Iran. This is a classic distraction propaganda assault.

The War in Iraq has gone so gladly that Karl Rove smiles when ever he see's an Iran story instead of an Iraq one. This is about scaring people, not about the "coming war with Iran." And all too many are falling for it. In regards to the surge speech, that's not new rhetoric at all. Methinks DU is being paranoid.

:rant: