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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:23 AM
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Who'll get the last word? Colbert or O'Reilly?
Who'll get the last word?

On Jan. 18, television will witness a historic meeting of two alter-egos (or just egos) when Bill O'Reilly and Stephen Colbert are guests on each others' shows on the same night. Colbert, who has modeled his TV persona on O'Reilly, said in a statement, "It is an honor to speak face to face with a broadcasting legend, and I feel the same way about Mr. O'Reilly."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0112/p12s04-algn.html

This should be interesting.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:24 AM
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1. classic Colbert!
"It is an honor to speak face to face with a broadcasting legend, and I feel the same way about Mr. O'Reilly."

:rofl:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:26 AM
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2. That should be interesting, indeed!
Especially since Colbert only speaks in right wing talking points, anyway - O'Lielly won't be able to criticize him!
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:28 AM
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3. he might just Borat him...
Colbert could try and "out rightwing" ole O'Lielly and let O'Lielly waltz himself over a cliff with some really horrific statement...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:13 PM
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19. The smart thing would be for Colbert to invoke The Stewart Doctrine
When Jon Stewart went on Crossfire, he said, "I will not be your trained monkey to perform my schtick for your amusement."

Colbert needs to do the interview "out of character," lest he make himself look as foolish as Dennis Miller was the first time Jon Stewart interviewed him on The Daily Show.

Stewart just let Miller be HIS trained monkey, while Jon laughed and laughed.

And if Bill Orally says Colbert is modeling his character on Bill O'Reilly, Stephen should say something like, "No, I'm modeling my character on Senator Joe McCarthy. I find it fascinating that you see yourself in it."

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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:15 PM
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20. Yeah!
I like the McCarthy line . . . hope he thinks of that.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:29 AM
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5. the freeps heads will explode . . .
. . . because satire is WAY to hard to understand!

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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:04 PM
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14. A note on satire and right-wingers...
I've been compiling footage of Colbert featuring the WHC Dinner speech. I've got a beta version of a DVD that introduces Colbert's style of humor (60 minutes; pilot episode of The Colbert Report, etc.) then shows some of his best stuff. I'm doing it for my own pleasure, mostly, and to learn a bit about video editing.

My mother is a huge fan of O'Reilly, so when she got curious about my Colbert Collage I showed her the most innocent stuff. The one thing I thought she'd object to was Colbert's interview with Congressman Gingri when he carried the homophobic agenda too far and made Gingri look like a total idiot. She commented that she thought Gingri had done a good job. Good job? Colbert made him look like an ass!

I heard the news about Colbert's face-off through my mother who watches O'Reilly religiously. "What's that guy's name...the guy you like???" :eyes: Sigh. O'Reilly isn't very fair about letting his guests speak. As much as I admire and enjoy Colbert, I'm a bit worried.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:12 PM
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18. Must be very hard . . .
. . . to have loved ones that are so deluded.

I was fortunate to have been brought up by a coupla socialists! :D

The last long conversation with my mother before she died last year, was about how Murtha was standing up in the House and trying to get the kids home from that bloodbath.

Hang in there, lady.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:29 AM
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6. Colbert will chew him up and spit him out just like ke did Bush at the
communication dinner thing.
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Flarney Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:32 AM
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8. Colbert @ White House Correspondents' Dinner...
Other than November 7th, that has to be my absolute favorite moment of 2006.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:38 AM
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11. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:07 PM
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16. I'm making a collage of great Colbert moments, featuring the WHC Dinner.
See downthread. It's for my own enjoyment and to learn a bit about video editing.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:43 PM
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27. Totally agree. Colbert was galvanizing
what he did was not only brilliant, it gave the liberals teeth. We've been very polite and courteous and have taken the high road while the Bushies send out their paid assassins -- like the Swiftboat Liars for Hire. Kerry took the high road. Fine. That's his choice.
But the situation in our country is now so dire that we can no longer afford to be mannerly and observe the rules of etiquette.
Colbert didn't. He was brutal...while ostensibly being a pro-Bush cheerleader.
Wonderful.
And he really went for the jugular. None of that soft-ball good humored ribbing. No. And he made his case right there next to Bush. Not in some newspaper column or radio show.
Right to his face. Bush could not ignore him or have his handlers shield him. He had to sit there and listen to criticism.
Colbert's performance really energized me. And I truly believe it helped sweep the Dems to victory.
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Flarney Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:28 AM
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4. Colbert will, but I think he'll just toy with O'Reilly
O'Reilly would be a fool to try to go toe-to-toe with a trained comedian of Colbert's caliber. So, being that O'Reilly IS a fool, this should be interesting indeed.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:31 AM
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7. It'll degrade into an infinite loop
and possibly rip apart the very fabric of space and time.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:37 AM
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10. Ding, ding, ding
And we'll all be raptured. :rofl:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:36 AM
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9. Oh, geeze
:rofl:

Colbert didn't wait for the shows to get in the first dig. :rofl:

Colbert will make O'Reilly look like an idiot, but O'Reilly will yell louder. Plus, I gather Colbert is slight in build, and O'Reilly is 6'7". What do you bet O'Reilly puts Colbert into an oversized chair to make him look teeny?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:49 AM
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12. Question is, will O'Reilly get physical?
Remember when he came across the table at Franken?
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:06 PM
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15. *shakes head* What does my family SEE in O'Reilly?
Seriously. The guy is a bully.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:31 PM
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24. O'Reilly is a font of truthiness
As Beck says, "I only say what other people are thinking."

People are raised on truthiness. Then, along comes some egghead who tries to counteract what they love to believe with facts. When an O'Reilly comes back and defends truthiness, it gives them comfort. Makes them feel superior. The fact that he's so threatening he overwhelms most of the people who disagree with him proves to the them that they're associated with not only truth but power.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:28 PM
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23. No, I don't remember that
I saw the panel discussion at a book seminar when O'Reilly told him to shut up. I didn't know he'd actually gotten physical with Franken.

Ye gods. :wow:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:11 PM
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36. O'Reilly is 6'4"; Stephen is 5'10 1/2".
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:02 PM
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13. Does anyone know what time O'Reilly airs on FAUX?
First thing I will need to do is find out what channel FAUX is on my cable since I deleted it on all my TV's.
Then I need to know what time tune in for the funny show. It should be hilarious
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:17 PM
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22. I have to go digging behind my TV to remove the Fox Blocker.
More a political statement than a real working product, a couple of lefty types are selling a filter called the Fox Blocker that is supposed to block all reception of the Fox News channel on your television. We're counting down the seconds until someone introduces a CNN Blocker (as of this writing CNNblocker.com is still available), but having actually been on Fox News a few times, we can completely understand someone wanting to take whatever steps necessary to prevent themselves from accidentally being exposed to us talking with Neil Cavuto about how and when the robots are going to wake up and turn against us (true story!).

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More:
http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/26/the-fox-blocker/
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poiuytsister Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 09:02 PM
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38. Central Time
O'Reilly is from 7 - 8, opposite Keith, Colbert is 7:30, also opposite. Fire up the Tivos.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:10 PM
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17. Believe it or not, I think O'Reilly's feelings will actually get hurt
His last interview with David Letterman really shook him.

Captain Phonesex kept trying to convince Letterman's audience, "We're really friends. This is all just an act, folks." It was very sad. He was really pleading with them.

The Falafel King does not like to be dissed by the popular kids.

That's why Bill-O went after Danny DiVito so savagely-- Bill Orally was jealous that HE wasn't the one out drinking with Batman.

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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:32 PM
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26. Interesting hypothesis n.t
n/t
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:15 PM
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21. My money is on Stephen
It will probably be must-see TV.
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:32 PM
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25. Colbert is no fool
He will wipe the floor with O' Riley, who will just try to shout louder .

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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:50 PM
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28. Right. O'Reilly will be reduced to his blustery self
his red-faced, indignant, angry old man persona. The cranky old man on the porch ("you kids get offa my lawn!) He'll be like those poor congressmen/women who appear on Colbert's show and think they can go one-on-one with him. And then get all confused by his "supportive" persona and end up agreeing to the most egregious comments, catching themselves, back-tracking. At the end, they're like deer in the headlights. Stunned.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:06 PM
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29. They sound like a couple of buddies trying to cash in to me.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:53 PM
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30. Colbert and O'Leilly buddies? I think not
And it's doubtful either one of them has to "cash in", particularly Colbert. Jon Stewart and Stephen have been making fun of "papa bear O'Reilly" for a long, long, time. Colbert admits his character is based somewhat on O'reilly because he's the "best" - best what I'm not exactly sure, but I'd say idiotic newscaster, which is what Colbert makes fun of every night on his show.

O'Reilly is jealous of the attention Colbert and Stewart are getting, and wants to seem "cool", and I'd guess it's an opportunity Stephen just couldn't pass up.

I would bet Jon is helping Stephen out here, and really looking forward to it - I don't think O'leilly has a chance, really - unless Stephen decides to be even further right wing than O'leilly is, which I can see him doing.

There used to be a ton of stuff on Youtube you could watch but I think most of it has been removed. I wish it hadn't - you'd definitely see they're not "buddies".
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 02:18 PM
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31. They are making money together. This is the only purpose
for this whole exercise.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:07 PM
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32. I disagree
Do you watch Colbert? Have you ever read or watched an interview with him, when he's not in character? This is the kind of thing he LIVES for (and I'm not talking about money).

O'reilly probably just wants to appear "cool", and in touch - he failed miserably when he appeared on The Daily Show, and my guess is he'll fail again with Colbert. I'm not sure how you think they'll "make money" together - and they're certainly not "buddies". I must just not be as cynical as you are...



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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:07 PM
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33. Well, let's see... which man is brilliant, and which is a mental midget?
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:08 PM
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34. Colbert will say stuff that will be totally over O'Really's head, and because of this
because he's an ignorant shitbag, O'Really will claim victory.

You read it here first.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:09 PM
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35. Colbert is to quick for O'LIEly...nt
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:18 PM
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37. This will be great !
Though, doesn't O'Reilly edit his shows? He should go *live* for Stephen :)
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 09:06 PM
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39. I hope Colbert gives Olielly a loofah sponge as a thank you gift.
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 09:07 PM by youthere
Or he could be real sly about it and accidentally knock over his coffee and casually pull out a loofah sponge to try and wipe it up.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 11:43 AM
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40. My calendar is marked!!!
And I NEVER mark my calendar for TeeVee shows.
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