BWAHAHA! Cons Panties In a Bunch on Yahoo over Alito becoming a Souter!

[berni_mccoy]

Check this out and laugh your ass off!

http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=l&board=37138445&tid=nmexecutionmissouricourtdc&sid=37138445&mid=463

[Deep13]

1. Who's "Suter"?

There are many references to Bush's "Suter" but no indication who this Suter might be.

[derby378]

2. Calling Alito another Souter sounds premature at this point

It could be just an early anomaly in his judicial mindset. Give him time.

[berni_mccoy]

3. Not my words...theirs! :-)

[peekaloo]

4. I agree. nt

[Orangepeel]

6. they're fickle! He fails to kill one man quickly enough

and they go crazy!

[peekaloo]

7. You know my first thought was similar.

He (Scalito) probably wishes a more brutal death than injection, so let him hang (so to speak) a little while longer.

[Crankie Avalon]

5. Cons heard to wail, "Come back, Harriet, all is forgiven!!!"

[janx]

8. It is entirely possible that Alito was made to look more

"conservative" than he actually was in order to please the wingnuts.

[SharonAnn]

9. Or, he did this to allay people's fears so that he do things later without

people paying so much attention.

[Marie26]

10. He might not be that bad

I've had a funny hunch about Alito. He might actually turn out to be quite moderate & reasonable, like Souter. Maybe not on the abortion front, but I have a feeling that he won't be as supportive of executive power as they think he will be. If Bush brings the NSA spying before Alito, he might be suprised at the result. It's really the only reason that I'm still hopeful about the court.

[NYC Liberal]

13. Why would he care though? He's in for good.

[Kber]

14. He's already been appointed

he doesn't need to do anything to allay fears or please the public anymore.

That said, it's one decision and I don't really see how we can read all that much into it, except maybe he isn't as batshit crazy an Scalia.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

11. The proof is in his past rulings.

It's a mixed bag, really.

[Ganja Ninja]

12. I kinda wondered if this might happen.

Alito votes right when the majority is left and votes left when the majority is right. He's the kind of guy that always disagrees with the group's consensus just to prove to everyone that he's smarter than the group.

I guess we'll see if it's a trend that continues.

[Kber]

15. He voted with the majority in this instance

6 -3 with Roberts (who really is starting to scare me), Scalia and Thomas saying that the state should be able to execute the prisoner now even though the court is hearing essentially the same case in June.

There is no indication that Alito will vote in a liberal way down the road - all the majority is saying here is "don't step on our toes - we will be getting to this issue in a little bit".

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

17. I haven't been following Roberts' votes.

What's he been up to that's scary?

[Marie26]

20. He voted to strike down Oregon's assisted

suicide law, based on a certain interpretation of a federal regulation. He was in the minority though; the Supreme Court voted 6-3 to uphold the law. But Robert's vote shows a willingness to give the federal gov. & executive branch very broad powers.

[Kber]

21. He voted with the minority

that wanted to overturn Oregon's Death with Dignity law, which would indicate that he believes in the right of the Federal Gov't to intervene in local laws in a broad way.

But here he is respecting the local law and voting to let an execution go forward.

My issue is that he is being philosopohically inconsistant, voting to support either broad federal powers or respect for local laws based on whether he supports or doesn't support the issue at stake. Frankly, that worries me. I think Alito may be asserting the right to Federal interference in local / state issues which can be good (think ending segregation) or bad (think outlawing local laws permitting abortions). But at least Alito may be more consistant in his approach or philosophy.

I am afraid that Roberts may be changing his core approach depending on the outcome he wants rather than considering the underlying legal and constitutional principles.

But he's handsome and has cute kids, so ... well anyway.

[Marie26]

22. Inconsistent philosphy

"I am afraid that Roberts may be changing his core approach depending on the outcome he wants rather than considering the underlying legal and constitutional principles."

I think you're right. Reinquist did the same, though, so maybe he won't be a big change. I'm just annoyed that he tricked so many people w/the handsomeness & the cute kids!

[Kber]

23. Maybe - hope so

and if my fondest wishes come true, Alito may become a true heir to O'Conner. Let's keep our fingers crossed and pray for the good health of Kennedy, Ginsburg, Souter, etc.

And throw in a happy dance for a Democratic Majority while we are at it.

[Straight Shooter]

18. That's an interesting perspective.

He's the kind of guy that always disagrees with the group's consensus just to prove to everyone that he's smarter than the group.

I hope you're right. As for me - and I'm a lapsed Catholic - I couldn't help but wonder why the right wing is so gung-ho to have such a heavy Catholic influence on the SCOTUS, setting the so-called moral compass of this nation. I mean, think about it, we Catholics aren't even "saved"! :)

[dusmcj]

16. deflecting fire, the shit will come later.

no sense in setting off the opposition too early.

[Marie26]

19. But why would he care?

He's appointed for life now, & beyond caring what positions are "popular" or not.

[dusmcj]

29. I doubt he can tie his shoes without permission

to steal from the movie line...

these folks run their stuff like military campaigns. And it ain't no special ops either, everything has to run through groupmind central and be vetted for correctness. I suggest that Alito has understood personally that he's in the big leagues now, and dealing with large forces like Senate filibusters over whether he's a fascist enabler. He will personally choose to go slow and decloak carefully, and the network of connections he has stepped into by joining the court will advise same. These folks do nothing on their own if they aren't Conf'dent that they have the power to do so, everything is run through informal networks of acquaintances made up of powerholders and their affiliates. Alito is now an active member of the network.

[cantstandbush]

24. My god, these people are horrid! Death and hate must be their mantra! n.t

[More Than A Feeling]

25. Wow, this is the best one:

http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=&action=m&board=37138445&tid=nmexecutionmissouricourtdc&sid=37138445&mid=125&thr=125&cur=125&dir=d

Should have appointed a CHRISTIAN
by: compassionate_conserv4_bush (58/M/Midland, TX) 02/02/06 07:20 am
Msg: 125 of 694

This is a travesty. For all the whining of the left, Alito is going to turn out to be a closet lib. Our President may have made his first mistake. He should have picked a CHRISTIAN man who is devoted to America, as opposed to this freak who is obviously beholden to Rome/Vatican, above America. Scum.

The amount of ignorance and hate in that delightful:sarcasm: missive is staggering. Imagine what it would be like to be this person.

[Javaman]

26. I like this line...

"Our President may have made his first mistake. "

delusional, just plain delusional.

[Love Bug]

27. One decision does not a Souter make

But it is kinda fun to watch the wing-nuts eat their own! :popcorn:

[berni_mccoy]

28. I totally agree., but the repubs think so, so I'm having fun