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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 07:52 AM
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Can we start correctly referring to the neocons and their supporters a s "traitors"?
In my opinion, they are. They have subverted the Constitution at every opportunity and have sought to render our nation into a police state headed by an pointed executive. They have plundered the treasury and sought to strip the citizens of the most fundamental of rights. These people need to be harshly dealt with to discourage that they gain power in the future. Root them out and put them on display in the town square. Pillory them and imprison them. They are traitors.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 07:55 AM
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1. Oh, but didn't you know? They all changed their minds...
Perle, Frum, the whole gang... They now think it was a mistake to invade Iraq.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2006/12/neocons200612

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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 08:05 AM
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6. Here's waiting for the next potus to pardon those criminals
....

Am i being to cynical? Let's hope so.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 08:59 AM
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11. Don't forget Edwards, he changed his mind as well
When I actually see a difference between the Parties I will celebrate..
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 09:28 AM
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12. Well, don't bother inviting me to that one.
I won't lump Edwards in with the likes of Perle.

This thread is about neocons.
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 07:57 AM
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2. NeoCons = Conservative American Traitors
Get the judge and the rope - If it was good enough for Saddam it's good enough for them.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 07:57 AM
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3. Too right.
They're not just traitors, they're treasonous traitors. I only hope we don't have to suffer the fate of the WWII Axis nations to recognize and deal with them.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 08:01 AM
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4. Treasonous traitors.
That'll do just fine as well.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 08:03 AM
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5. You can start calling them traitors now if you want to
but I've been doing it all along.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 08:20 AM
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9. Same here
Been calling them traitors since V Plame was outed.
One of the few terms that shut freepers up.They just can't come back against it.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 09:33 AM
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13. Traitors since 12/12/2000!
Supreme Court hands bush keys to white house!
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 08:09 AM
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7. I use the term "collaborators".....
It has an old-school ring to it. These Limbaugh, O'Rielly, Coulter types are the main ones and like their counterparts in France at the end of WW2, they deserve the same fate.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 08:14 AM
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8. Not sinister enough...they are conspirators, conspiring to
overthrow our nation and whole regions of the world.
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 10:51 AM
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15. If the shoe fits, make them wear it.
I like the term, collaborators for the likes of O'rielly, Hannity, etc. Should we start comparing them to Tokyo Rose?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 08:28 AM
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10. In his book
"Worse Than Watergate," John Dean uses parts of a speech by Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas), a libertarian who expressed serious concerns about the neoconservatives. Paul notes that the neoconservatives:

1- tend to agree with Trotsky's idea of a "permanent revolution"
2- identify strongly with the writings of Leo Strauss
3- express no opposition to the welfare state, and will expand it to win votes and expand their power
4- believe in a powerful federal government
5- believe that "the ends justify the means"
6- believe "hardball" politics are a moral necessity
7- believe that lying is necessary for the state to survive
8- believe that many "facts" should be known only by a political elite
9- believe the political elite should withhold these "facts" from the public
10- believe in preemptive war
11- believe that military force is an important method of reaching desired goals
12- openly endorse the concept of "American empire"
13- advocate imperialism openly
14- advocate the use of military force to impose their ideals
15- scoff at the Founding Fathers' belief in neutrality in foreign affairs
16- believe that 9/11 reslted from too few foreign entanglements, not too many
17- advocate the redrawing of the map of the Middle East
18- unconditionally support Israel and the Likud Party
19- view civil liberties with suspicion, as unnecessary restrictions on the federal government
20- despise libertarians, and dismiss any arguments based on constitutional grounds.
(pages 103-104)
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WritersBlock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 09:51 AM
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14. Been doing it all along, because that's what they are.

Traitors, war criminals, cowards, thieves, and murderers.



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