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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:51 PM
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Saddam Hussein was, without question, the leader of a brutal dictatorship.
As many as 300,000 Iraqis are believed to have been deliberately murdered by the regime in the "Anfal campaign" against the Kurds, and the assaults on the Marsh Arabs and southern Shi`a populations, which resulted in thousands of more dead.

Between 1977 and 1987, some 4,500-5,000 Kurdish villages were reportedly systematically destroyed, and the survivors were forced into concentration camps. Many of the atrocities took place at a time when the U.S. was actively supporting Hussein in a manufactured revolution against the Iranian government, whose leaders had humiliated Americans in the '70's hostage crisis.

Iraq used chemical weapons in 1983-1984, during the Iran-Iraq war. It has been reported that some 20,000 Iranians were killed by mustard gas, and the nerve agents tabun and sarin.

In 1988, it was reported that Iraqi soldiers invaded Kurdistan and rounded up more than 100,000 Kurds and executed them. In March 1988, in the town of Halabja, more than 3,000 civilians reportedly died from chemical gas attacks by the Iraqi military.

Iraq has been rightly condemned by the U.S. and most of the international community for these and other deadly actions against its citizens and its neighbors. But Iraq did not operate against its enemies alone or without our knowledge, and in many instances, U.S. support.

Nightline, in Sept. 1991 reported that the Atlanta branch of an Italian bank, BNL, was able to funnel billions, some of it in U.S. credits, to Iraq's military. The U.S. apparently knew of the transfers and turned a blind eye.

"Sophisticated military technology was illegally transferred from a major U.S. company in Lancaster, Pennsylvania to South Africa and Chile and, from there, on to Iraq. The Iraqi-born designer of a chemical weapon plant in Libya set up shop in Florida, producing and then shipping to Iraq chemical weapon components. The CIA, the FBI and other federal agencies were made aware of the operation and did nothing to prevent it."

The Nightline report further stated: "During the 1980s and into the '90s, senior officials of both the Reagan and Bush administrations encouraged the privatization of foreign policy, certainly toward Iran and Iraq. They made a mockery of the export control system; they found ways of encouraging foreign governments to do what our laws prohibited. They either knew or, if not, were guilty of the grossest incompetence, that U.S. companies were collaborating with foreign arms merchants in the illegal transfer of American technology that helped Saddam Hussein build his formidable arsenal."

It summarized that, "Iraq, during much of the 1980's and into the '90s, was able acquire sophisticated U.S. technology, intelligence material, ingredients for chemical weapons, indeed, entire weapon-producing plants, with the knowledge, acquiescence and sometimes even the assistance of the U.S. government."

The New York Times reported in Aug. 2002 that during the Reagan administration, the U.S. military provided Saddam with critical intelligence that was used in Iraq's aggression against Iran, at a time when they were clearly using chemical and biological agents in their prosecution of that war.

The United States was an accomplice in the use of these materials at a time when President Reagan's top aides, including then- Secretary of State George P. Shultz, Defense Secretary Frank C. Carlucci and Gen. Colin L. Powell, then national security adviser, were publicly condemning Iraq for its use of poison gas, especially after Iraq attacked Kurds in Halabja.

The classified support reportedly involved more than 60 military advisors from the Defense Intelligence Agency who provided detailed information on Iranian deployments, tactical planning for battles, plans for air strikes and bomb-damage assessments for Iraq.

A retired intelligence officer recalled that, in the military's view, "The use of gas on the battlefield by the Iraqis was not a matter of deep strategic concern."

A 1994 Senate Banking Committee report ( ), and a letter from the Centers for Disease Control in 1995, revealed that the U.S. had shipped biological agents to Iraq at a time when Washington knew that Iraq was using chemical weapons to kill thousands of Iranian troops.

The reports showed that Iraq was allowed to purchase batches of anthrax, botulism, E. coli, West Nile fever, gas gangrene, dengue fever. The CDC was shipping germ cultures directly to the Iraqi weapons facility in al-Muthanna.

The National Security Archive at George Washington University has a collection of declassified government documents that detail U.S. support of Saddam's regime. This is the collection that contains a photograph of Saddam Hussein shaking hands with Ronald Reagan's Middle East envoy, Donald Rumsfeld, who apparently said nothing to Saddam about his nuclear weapons program or his use of chemical weapons. ( )

The very fact that the U.S. government isn't being held complicit for Saddam's crimes is testament to the rigged, U.S. controlled trial. No way Saddam should have stood alone to account for his atrocities.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:57 PM
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1. Who is going to be held to account for the atrocities taking..
Edited on Fri Dec-29-06 12:58 PM by Missy M
place in Iraq right now?
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:58 PM
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2. Agreed. And BUSH is responsible for 3,000 US dead, 600,000 + Iraqis dead...
Edited on Fri Dec-29-06 01:03 PM by Danieljay
and over 25,000 seriously wounded many of whom will never fully recover. Combine that with our compliance by providing him weapons and support in the 80's...and...well, anyway...

two wrongs don't make a right.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 01:01 PM
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3. Saddam was a bad guy and needs his day in a real court
like The Hague. However, it seems like our government martinet of an unelected fraud, known as President Bush, has exceeded his atrocities. How are we going to deal with our Saddam?
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 01:01 PM
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4. But he was always Our Man --
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 01:01 PM
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5. And this is the only such despot (I can recall) referred (even here on DU) as a "devil,"
Edited on Fri Dec-29-06 01:02 PM by The Stranger
which has fascinating religious, political and historical connotations.

He is even referred to as a "torturer," although the invasion of his country led to the revelation that the U.S. engaged in torture on a broad scale, and has since sought to systematize it, although keeping it all governmental secret.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 01:14 PM
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6. The republicans are again making Hussein the reason for the invasion & war...Bullshit...
Edited on Fri Dec-29-06 01:27 PM by GreenTea
If Iraq has no oil, Saddam is left alone to kill more people of color. It's all about profit.

And they are using WMD, Hussein, more troops, democracy for Iraq (what a joke) etc. as smokescreens to keep this incredibly profitable war for a few prolonged... This is just another in a series of bullshit smokescreens for Bush's completely illegal invasion of Iraqi oil fields...and the corporations aren't just going to leave, Bush is going to continue to keep troops in Iraq to protect the corporations that are stealing Iraqi oil...Oil fields that now belong to Exxon, BP and Shell...They aren't just going to walk away from those fields - and as long as our kids are there protecting Exxon, Halliburton, etc. more kids will die...80% of Iraqi's don't want our troops there...but war creates ideal conditions to continue the stealing of Iraqi oil and controlling the flow to keep prices high...Saddam's hanging is just another media event to keep people believing that's the reason we illegally went in and invaded a sovereign nation and why we are still there and will be there for many more years. OIL and corporate profits.

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