Is there a single photo of U.S. Rep. Bill Young's Wife wearing that shirt?

[Dr Fate]

Or any footage of her in the capital wearing it or leaving?

I think the whole thing was hoax in order to allow the media to "balance" this story.

I'll eat crow as soon as I see the photos of here IN the Capital WEARING the shirt.

[babylonsister]

1. I recently did a google search in news and images. Nada there. nt

[Dr Fate]

2. Kind of like the "WMDs", no? n/t

n/t

[babylonsister]

3. Exactly! We're catching on! nt

[Dr Fate]

4. I cant believe no "jouranlists" are seeking these phantom photos.

n/t

[magellan]

5. It is odd, isn't it?

Seemed to be plenty of cameras around when Cindy was being hauled away.

[Dr Fate]

6. I know- surely at least one camera caught this- unless they made it up.

Whcih is what they did. I'm betting on it.

[tabasco]

45. Yes, it's a good thing there were lots of cameras on Cindy.

The Gestapo can't fabricate their own version of what happened.

So they had to drop all charges against her today.

But Cindy is filing a civil rights suit against them and WILL WIN !

[Beaverhausen]

7. Mrs. Young had a thing or two to say about the Capitol Police though.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=15&u=/ap/20060201/ap_on_go_co/state_of_union_sheehan_8

Mrs. Young was sitting about six rows from first lady Laura Bush and asked to leave. She argued with police in the hallway outside the House chamber.

"They said I was protesting," she told the St. Petersburg Times. "I said, "Read my shirt, it is not a protest.' They said, 'We consider that a protest.' I said, 'Then you are an idiot.'"

[Dr Fate]

8. Hmm- and no reporters with cameras anywhere near?

With shots of her WEARING the shirt?

Why is that?

I'll eat crow and my tin-foil hat when I see the pics.

[FreedomAngel82]

35. On the CSPAN site

do they show before the speech or just the walkins and stuff?

[Disturbed]

9. She was not arrested and charged with...

"Unlawful Conduct", as was Mrs. Sheehan. Double standard of justice.

[Dr Fate]

12. Probably because the incident is a hoax.

At least that is my take until I see a photo of her WEARING the shirt in the Capital.

[Beaverhausen]

14. I don't think it's a hoax

but I could be mistaken.

I think there are pics of Sheehan because her attendance at the SOTU was newsworthy. The wife of a congressman - not so much.

On yahoo there are pics of Sheehan's arrival and then of her being removed. And if Young was kicked out after Sheehan- probably all the photogs were busy with Sheehan.

But like I said, I could be wrong. But wouldn't it be cool if Young joined Sheehan in her lawsuit?

[Dr Fate]

16. Surely there was at least one photographer nearby when this occurred.

And surely that photo would prove me wrong.

I'd love to see it.

[txindy]

46. They took many pictures of Cindy being ejected.

Yet they wouldn't have taken at least one of another 'protestor' being asked to leave? Doesn't seem plausible, does it? I'd have to call it an outright lie. If there was at least one picture of her that existed, her husband would've had it blown up to show on the House floor rather than waving the shirt around.

It's a lie, imo.

[FreedomAngel82]

37. Doesn't her husband know the rules?

[DearAbby]

10. Wouldn't this been big story news GOP WIFE EJECTED -

FROM STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH...Newspeak at work...they just forgot to create a photo for the story in their haste... Big Brother is getting sloppy.

[Dr Fate]

11. That IS the "balance" it provides. But you are right- no photos....

...at least none that I've seen yet.

[FreedomAngel82]

38. Good point

The republicans love to play victim. So why wasn't this on the "news"? Why isn't she going around doing interviews on all the shows? Why isn't she on Bill O'Reilly and the other radio shows?

[FreedomAngel82]

50. Well it's a GOP member not a democrat

[Maddy McCall]

54. It WAS big news today.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

13. "Karl, you were supposed to have those PhotoShops ready SIX HOURS ago!"

You have failed me for the last time!

[Lerkfish]

33. ROTFLMAO! best response!

:)

[malaise]

15. We're all asking that question

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=299282&mesg_id=299282

[Dr Fate]

17. Everyone but the "journalists" in the media, that is.

If a Repub sez it happens, they report it, no questions asked.

[NanceGreggs]

18. Posted earlier this morning ...

Firstly, what representative's wife goes to the SOTU address in a
T-shirt? It's a dressy affair; men in suits, women equally well-turned-out.

We know that Cindy's decision to attend was a last-minute one -- I'm assuming that Ms. Young has been planning to attend for MONTHS, and would have given a lot of thought to what she would wear.

If Ms. Young had her hair 'done', was wearing her 'good' jewelry, and was well-accessorized (matching shoes and purse, etc.), it will be OBVIOUS that she was asked to don the T-shirt at the last minute - and for obvious reasons.

SHOW US THE PHOTOS!

[malaise]

19. You are correct - this is a dressy affair

It's bullspit.

[Dr Fate]

23. She was not wearing that shirt- I'm almost ready to bet the farm. n/t

n/t

[0007]

29. Where are the dressy wittinesses?

[Dr Fate]

32. Witnesses would be start- but there had to be photographer.

There were only like a THOUSAND cameras in the joint.

[Dr Fate]

20. We all knew Cindy was going a half hour b/f it started.

My first thought was "She is wearing a shirt or somthing"

Surely that was Roves 1st thought too.

The next step was to find a loyal or wire-tapped/black-mailed Repub with "credibility" to hand off a shirt to his wife- if there even was a shirt present at that point.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

22. They knew they were going to eject/arrest Cindy and needed "balance".

We are really living in total Parlock propaganda-ville. We'll probably even see THAT guy's sorry mug, with a new kid and sign, at the next presidential "election".

[Dr Fate]

24. *I* guessed that Sheehan would be wearing a texted shirt of some kind.

So that means Rove guessed it too.

[malaise]

21. Good grief

She's now getting more airtime on CNN.

[Dr Fate]

25. But no footage or inquiry about footage though- right?

Right.

[malaise]

27. Of course not

just giving the 'moran' more time than they gave Gore. Fugg them. I'm not buying it.
Wonder what KO will say in a few minutes.

Edit -add

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

28. Does she even bring the shirt to show on TV?

[malaise]

30. She's wearing it

and still wearing last night's hairdo, :puke: which would not have gone too well with the T shirt. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Dr Fate]

31. "A" Pro-Bush shirt does indeed exist in Washington DC...

...her husband held it up on CSPAN this morning. So we do know that "a" pro-Bush shirt exists in the area.

[FreedomAngel82]

39. But any proof she was wearing it?

[Dr Fate]

41. None. Zip. A shirt does exist- but it was never on her back at the time...

...at least that is my guess, until I see a photo.

[FreedomAngel82]

49. Same here

She was wearing it in an interview on another thread I saw of her but I haven't seen anything else either. We have pictures of Cindy but not her. I still think it's quite wrong how they bruised and put in jail Cindy but not this woman. :mad:

[FreedomAngel82]

51. Mission Accomplished

[dogday]

26. Anyone even know what this woman looks like?

I don't .....

[Dr Fate]

34. Remember when the media told us "Clinton vandalized the White house"

No photos of that either.

We did get some nice photo-shopped pics of Kerry w/ Jane Fonda though- on Wolf Blitzer, in fact.

[soup]

42. This is what she looks like.

Times photo: Cherie Diez
Beverly Young greets Charles "Buddy" Mays as he leaves the VA Medical Center in Tampa on Friday.

and the accompanying article is here:
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/12/19/Worldandnation/Capitol_Hill_wife_who.shtml

[FreedomAngel82]

52. AND THE SAME SHIRT!!!

[AndyA]

36. This is hard to believe

With all the cameras and press around, I find it difficult to believe that a Reps wife was removed and no one caught it. Plenty seemed to cover Cindy Sheehan.

I think this is just propaganda, and I will continue to believe it until I see the photo - one that hasn't obviously been altered.

[Dr Fate]

40. That shirt was never on her back while in the Capital- I'll bet my soul.

n/t

[WHAT]

43. I'm very suspicious, also...

It seems like they could ask the police who were there and determine who asked her to leave...or maybe a witness. Nothing. It also seems like she would dress-up.

[Dr Fate]

44. That shirt was never on her back while in the Capital.

At best she was handed the shirt at some point, and was "holding" it.

[WHAT]

47. Could Cindy call on her to testify...

concerning the circumstances/environment of her own arrest? I just read that Cindy has filed suit and if Mrs. Young was called upon to testify and then lied (BIG) or was exposed to have lied (BIG) in collusion with others...,then, the fact that corporate media can not be trusted would be made even more apparent.

I could have some fun with imagining this whole scenario playing-out but mostly I'm so angry at the manipulation and want it to end.

[Dr Fate]

48. I dont know. I'm guessing yes. n/t

n/t

[gulliver]

53. The Republican was asked to leave. Sheehan was arrested.

There's a slight difference in the handling of the speech of the two women I would say.

[Dr Fate]

57. No conspiracy theory needed on that point!

Even if I have to eat crow on this- no one can deny your point.

[daleo]

55. How about a witness, who was sitting next to her?

I haven't heard any independent corroboration yet.

[Wordie]

58. Now that's a good question. nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

56. And where are the pictures of HER being dragged out of the chamber?

Pictures of Cindy were everywhere minutes after she was removed from the chamber. Where's Mrs. Young's pictures?

I think it's a hoax too.

[onenote]

59. since no one claims she was dragged out, those would be hard to find

She left on her own. And its would be a pretty stupid hoax since its main impact has been (a) to give Cindy Sheehan even more coverage and (b) stop cold attempts by the RW to marginalize Cindy as some wacko wearing a t-shirt to the SOTU.

onenote

[SoCalDem]

60. So.. You are a congressman's wife, and you are invited to the SOTU

speech..Your husband's dressed to the nines, and you show up wearing a TEEshirt??..Umm sure..

[Catrina]

61. Yes, and what did her husband do when she was asked to leave?

He's a Congressman, surely he could have vouched for her?

I read that she went home and called the press ~ and I also read that her husband held the shirt up on the floor of the Senate.

How did he get it before she left? Was she in her bra when she left?

Why did no one seem to know about her ejection until AFTER she went home and called the press?

Why did her husband not go home with her and simply file a complaint later?

And why has no other witness come forward to back up her claim.

Where is the Capitol Policeman who asked her to leave? Has anyone heard from him?

If a 'witness' does come forward now that questions have been raised, will they too be called to witness the event under oath in Cindy's case? Potential witnesses should think about that before they decide to come forward. Lying under oath is crime.

Why are the press not asking more questions, like 'were there any photographer's nearby, as they were when Cindy Sheehan was told to leave?

Maybe it's all true, but no one seems to have been there, except Mrs. Powers and her husband. Has anyone asked him if he interfered and pointed out that she is a supporter of the president and the wife of a Republican Congressman?