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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 06:17 PM
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Imperial Life In The Emerald City: The One Book On The Iraq Debacle That You REALLY Need To Read
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Before the holidays I saw Rajiv Chandrasekaran on The Daily Show promoting his book Imperial Life in the Emerald City: Inside Iraq's Green Zone. Based on the author's 8-minute conversation with Jon Stewart, I decided I had to have it. My partner's sister gave it to me for Christmas, and I have just finished reading it.

I urge any of you who a) read and b) want to know exactly why and how Iraq became the mess it currently is following our invasion to get a hold of this book. Though it is 300 pages long and jam-packed with detail, it reads like a novel. Like a harrowing, bleak, tragic novel in which sympathetic underdogs struggle to no avail against the doom foreordained for them by the immutable and, frankly, insane powers that be.

While all the discussion about "what to do about Iraq" (as if we can, at this point, do anything 'about' it any more) focuses on the military, Emerald City focuses on the civilians who were put in charge of rebuilding Iraq following the invasion. Chandrasekaran's book provides devastating evidence in support of a theory you don't hear much about in the corridors of power, but which will be instantly persuasive to anyone familiar with the operations of the Bush administration here at home: that the 'rebuilding' effort was doomed from the start by the ignorance, arrogance, selfishness, and ideological blindness of the people who were in charge of the project. From the initial chapters, which describe the various ways in which Rumsfeld and Cheney sabotaged Jay Garner to the closing description of L. Paul Bremer and his lackeys partying at a 2005 reunion and congratulating themselves and each other for the wonderful job they did while Iraq explodes in sectarian violence, the book is one long indictment of the neocons. Step by step, Chandrasekaran walks the reader through all the rebuilding projects that were scuttled, abandoned, sabotaged, or fucked up beyond all repair by the special combination of behaviors that we have come to know and love from our own domestic encounters with the neocons' style of governance: adhering inflexibly to rigid and preconceived "conservative" principles, rejecting input from the "reality-based community," refusing to accept the help or utilize the expertise of anyone deemed politically "suspect," assuming that they are always right regardless of mounting evidence to the contrary, and the identifying loyalty to Bush and his circle as the primary and in many cases indeed the only job qualification required.

The general outline of this story was apparent to anyone who was paying attention to the news during the early years of the war. What gives Emerald City its horrifying fascination is the way Chandrasekaran uses his two years of reporting, research, and interviews to recreate with sickening immediacy and astonishing intimacy the disaster that we have been forced to witness from afar and through a glass darkly. For instance, we have long been outraged by our sense that the Bush administration launched the invasion without a plan for dealing with the aftermath--beyond the now-infamous 'strategy' of miraculously being welcomed by the Iraqis bearing not only flowers but a complete blueprint for a new democratic government that had unanimous popular support. Well, Chandrasekaran's early chapters argue that, in fact, it wasn't so much that they didn't think to come up with a plan: in fact, they deliberately prevented Jay Garner, the guy Douglas Feith had tapped to be in charge of the postinvasion phase, from coming up with one. Why? Because, according to Chandrasekaran, they were afraid that if Garner was allowed to come up with a real plan, it might interfere with Rumsfeld, Cheney, Feith et al.'s plan, which was basically to turn the joint over to Achmed Chalabi as soon as possible. In partciular, they were very worried that he might talk to people at the State Department who knew something about Iraq--and who consequently felt that the administration's plans for Iraq were a load of horsehockey.

So, they didn't tell Garner that there was a two-year study called the Future of Iraq Project being run by the State Department that had already produced 2500 pages' worth of policy recommendations about what to do during the postwar phase of a "post-Saddam Iraq." When Garner, more or less by chance, met the guy who was in charge of the project, he hired him. A week later, Rumsfeld (acting, Garner says he was later told, on orders from Cheney), demanded that Garner fire him, thus cutting off Garner's access to the project's reports (which of course were classified). Two days before Garner's team was due to leave for Kuwait in preparation for the invasion, Rumsfeld tried to force him to replace a number of key people because they were from the State Department. Meanwhile, the Office of Special Plans--the Bush cabal in charge of doing all the real planning--wouldn't, of course, let Garner see any of their documents, because he wasn't one of the anointed.

Despite the difficulties, Garner's team--the Office of Reconstruction and Humanitarian Assistance, or ORHA--did formulate a plan, which included a list of sites to be secured and protected by American troops during and immediately after the invasion of Baghdad. Here's Chandrasekaran's description of what happened with that:

Two weeks <before the looting began>, the ORHA ministers had worked up a list of sites in Baghdad that needed security. Atop the list was the Central Bank. Then came the National Museum. The Oil Ministry was at the bottom. Weeks later, ORHA personnel discovered that the military had failed to transmit the list to ground commanders in Baghdad.

Which explains, perhaps, why the only building that the soldiers did protect from looting was the Ministry of Oil.

When I read the chapter on Garner (it's titled "A Deer in the Headlights") I thought it was going to be the most outrageous portrait of malice, incompetence, and tragically unfounded hubris run homicidally amok that the book would offer. I was wrong. Very wrong.

Much of the book is devoted to a chapter by chapter exploration of the various projects of the Coalition Provisional Authority, the civilian-run but Pentagon-controlled organization set up to manage the 'rebuilding' of Iraq. Ruled with an iron fist by L. Paul Bremer III, the guy sent over to replace Garner after he inevitably failed to pacify Iraq, the CPA was packed with what Chandrasekaran refers to as "political hacks"--people who were sent to Iraq not because they had any prayer of knowing what they were doing but because they were politically connected and ideologically pure. Chandrasekaran's descriptions of life inside the Green Zone--the walled-off, fortified, increasingly isolated "emerald city" where most of the CPA personnel spent just about 100% of their time in Iraq--are evocative, and will no doubt be the draw that pulls a lot of readers through this description of what is essentially a catastrophic and gigantically flawed attempt at civil and social engineering. Halliburton et al. strove to replicate America--specifically, America "south of the Mason-Dixon line"--as completely as possible for the denizens of the Green Zone, from the food in the cafeteria (plenty of pork products, much of it served by Muslims from India and Pakistan who hated having to handle it) to the fleets of identical Suburbans in which the CPA bigwigs tooled around. The complete disconnect between life inside the Green Zone and life outside it is a heightened, bloodstained, more surreal version of the disconnect we've seen at home between the Bush administration's fantasy world and the one the rest of us are living in, and it is infuriating to watch preventable mistakes made again and again by people who either have never thought to inform themselves about life beyond the walls or actively refuse to do so. More than anything, it's the refusal to consider the prospect that they don't already know everything--intellectually, ideologically, and experientially--that dooms Bremer and his cadre from the outset. Unwilling to question their own assumptions or to take advice from staffers who are willing to do so, they go right on making blunder after blunder, wasting money, time, and lives in a failed attempt to rebuild Iraq in the image of America.

But along the way, the book really teaches you a lot about the challenges posed by the 'rebuilding effort' and what it might have taken to meet them, and that's one reason why I think it's ultimately more valuable than the Woodwardian trilogy. Public discussion of Iraq has been so focused on Saddam himself that there is very little understanding here of the larger system that was in place when we invaded Iraq in 2003. Iraq before the invasion was a bloated, inefficient, Soviet-style socialist bureaucracy, complete with the kind of official corruption peculiar to that particular system. Because everyone on the CPA assumed that that kind of system was an unmitigated evil and that the birth of free-market capitalism from its ashes was a process a thousand times more natural than childbirth and requiring far less intervention, the CPA was unable to follow through on their dream of privatization. It did not occur to them, for instance, that firing redundant personnel from government-run industries in order to make them more profitable might spark protests, riots, and deadly reprisals in a country where for two generations there had been guaranteed employment for large sections of the population. Not only did they get the people issues wrong, they even got the economic issues wrong. Chandrasekan provides a fascinating explanation of how the CPA's attempt to rehabilitate the complex of government-owned Iraqi industries actually crippled industries that might have become viable as private concerns while artificially sustaining ones that were already doomed. Perhaps the most concrete example of the CPA's collective failure to understand the reality they were attempting to transform was the attempt to eliminate the government-subsidized monthly food ration. To avoid sparking food riots when the ration was discontinued, the CPA decided to replace the actual food with an equivalent cash stipend, which would inject free market magic by giving the Iraqis the opportunity to spend the money on whatever they wanted. When it was made clear to them that handing out sums of cash under these conditions was impractical, the next idea was to issue Iraqis with debit cards. This in a country with no ATM machines, no credit card readers in most shops, and rolling blackouts because the CPA couldn't get Washington to authorize as much money as it would have taken to rebuild Iraq's power system.

Searching through this banquet of outrage for one example that would really crystallize the fundamental dysfunction that made the 'rebuilding' effort doomed from before the beginning, I came up with this description of how the CPA approached rebuilding Iraq's health care system:

Once the Americans arrived, the job of rehabilitating Iraq's health-care system fell to Frederick M. Burkle, jr., a physicial with a master's degree in public health and postgraduate degrees from Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, and the University of California at Berkeley. Burkle was a naval reserve officer with two Bronze Stars and a deputy assistant administrator at the U.S. Agency for International Development. He taught at the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health, where he specialized in disaster-response issues. During the first Gulf War, he provided medical aid to Kurds in northern Iraq. A USAID colleague called him the "single most talented and experienced post-conflict health specialist working for the United States Government."

A week after Baghdad's liberation, Burkle was informed that he was being replaced. A senior official at USAID told him that the White House wanted a "loyalist" in the job. Burlke had a wall of degrees, but he didn't have a picture of himself with the President.

Burkle's job was handed to James K. Haveman, Jr., a sixty-year-old social worker who was largely unknown among international health experts. He had no medical degree, but he had connections. He had been the community health director for the former Republican governor of Michigan, John Engler, who recommended him to Wolfowitz. Haveman was well-traveled, but most of his overseas trips were in his capacity as a director of International Aid, a faith-based relief organization that provided health care while promoting Christianity. Prior to his stint in government, Haveman ran a large Christian adoption agency in Michigan that urged pregnant women not to have abortions.


And that works out about as well as you'd expect it to. Instead of trying to rehabilitate and refurnish the hospitals that are trying to cope with a constant influx of the horribly wounded without basic medical equipment or reliable electric power, Haveman decides his goal is to "refashion Iraq's socialist health-care system into one that looked more American, with co-payments and primary-care clinics." Not understanding, apparently, that the needs of a country with an ongoing guerilla war involving massive civilian casualties are different from the needs of, say, a large for-profit hospital system trying to cut down on Medicare and Medicaid costs, Haveman obsessed over rewriting the "formulary"--the list of prescription drugs that Iraq's government-owned pharmaceutical firm was supposed to provide to Iraqi hospitals--to make it more restrictive (and to include more drugs produced by American pharmaceutical companies). Ultimately Haveman hands over control of the ministry to the Iraqis, preparatory to the final transfer of sovereignty, without having been able to privatize the system and without even having restored it to its pre-invasion state.

That story is repeated over and over in every sector. Whether they're trying to create an Iraqi media network or retrain the Iraqi police force, it's the same fuck up for the same reasons as the same pattern repeats itself. Qualified people are rejected for top spots in favor of self-confident, autocratic, politically-connected idiots who don't know what they're doing and won't listen to people who do. Said politically-connected idiots propose sweeping, radical, shiny new policies which will use a lot of fancy technology and private capital to build a bigger, better, American-style version of whatever it is they're in charge of. These changes are never ultimately implemented, and whatever it was is left worse than when they began. The stories of the few top people who did grasp what was happening and try to make a difference are that much more painful because it's so clear that they had so little power to impact the final outcome, despite their often quite heroic efforts to do their jobs right with what little they were given.

I could go on--but my basic point is: you need to read this book. Because it's the most insightful, comperehensive, well-documented, and damning explanation of how we made Iraq an unmitigated disaster; but also because it teaches us things that we all really need to know about how and why we too have been misgoverned all these years--and what the results are liable to be. I have not even conveyed a quarter of what this book has to teach us about the rot at the heart of this administration; I've just tried to focus on the aspects we all are least likely to have known anything about if this book had not been published. And because it demonstrates, in such a way as to convince all but the most blinded loyalists, that we have already lost Iraq. We had lost it, probably, by the time Bremer transferred sovereignty to the Iraqi interim government in June of 2004. And we lost it not just because we didn't bring enough boots, but because we did not bring enough brains. The Bush team sent to Iraq the same claque of self-satisfied, self-deluded, triumphalist morons who have been lording it over us here at home. It should not surprise anyone that what they established was not a free, stable, democratic Iraq but the mother of all gated communities--a fortified safe haven for themselves, a kindly womb in which they and their fantasies could be nurtured and protected without any hostile intervention from the real world. Until, finally, the real world got bad enough, and the Green Zone was finally infiltrated. And even then, all that happened--to them--was that they had to leave. They have all, by and large, found other gated communities within which to barricade themselves as the disasters they hatched come home to roost. The Iraqis, and our troops, are stuck dealing with the aftermath. And for them, forever, there will never be any place like home.

:scared:

The Plaid Adder
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 06:24 PM
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1. Just finished it -- probably the best book on the Iraq debacle so far
because it illustrates so clearly how utterly incompetent and ideology-driven the whole misadventure was from the very beginning. The smart people either weren't hired for the CPA in the first place, or were fired as soon as they started to question anything. They were living in a hermetically-sealed bubble. They knew nothing about Iraq and made it a point not to find out. Read the book, but not if you have fragile items about that you might be tempted to throw at the walls.

Rajiv Chandrasekaran deserves a Pulitzer or something for this.
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 06:36 PM
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3. He does.
It's amazing how many people he found to talk to--and that only shows you how bad things really got over there, and what a real reporter can do when he puts his mind to it.

I can't imagine what it's like to be like these neocon people. The sheer arrogance of it all, that conviction that every last one of them is a superhero come to save the world...and founded just on nothing. It boggles the mind.

C ya,

The Plaid Adder
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 01:23 PM
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24. kick for a later look
I heard this dude on npr n the daily show...
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 06:30 PM
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2. Great scott
The depth of the ignorance, stupidity, and arrogance of it all boggles the imagination. This book was already on my reading list but after reading this I have decided to pick it up tomorrow. Thanks, Plaid Adder.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 06:42 PM
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4. Damn! Your review is almost as long as the book!
:applause:

I just started reading it.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 10:24 AM
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22. Yeah I stopped reading it because this on #2 on my list after Fiasco
You know so I can fully understand how bad of idea this was to start with and how they took this really really bad idea (that we told everyone was a really really bad idea) and managed to fuck it up in ways that we actually had taken for granted.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 06:44 PM
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5. I brought it this weekend (and a nom
But first I have to finish the newest Clive Cussler :)

I already know how mperial Life In The Emerald City turns out :grr:

Good write up...



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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 06:48 PM
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6. Will use one of my B & N gift certificates
for this one. Thanks
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 06:51 PM
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7. Matt Damon mentioned this book while being
interviewed with Robert DeNiro. It is a must read, must grieve book for the lincredible lack of leadership, oversight and appaling lapse of humanity the bush cabal allowed to "foment" there.
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 07:25 PM
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Besides bumper stickers and mouse pads praising Shrub,
Edited on Thu Dec-28-06 07:31 PM by NI4NI
The most common shirt most often seen being worn inside the Republican Palace by CPA staffers were BUSH/CHENEY 2004 t-shirts.
If that don't piss anybody off, the fact that 8 billion bucks in CASH went missing after it was flown from a Federal Reserve Bank in New York into Bag dad Airport which was being guarded by a "security contractor" who was paid 8 million bucks even without having any security experience whatsoever, should.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 07:25 PM
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 07:41 PM
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9. Thanks for the review. I had the book on hold, but never got down
to the store to buy.

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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 08:02 PM
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10. and what about Haveman's anti smoking idea
Edited on Thu Dec-28-06 08:05 PM by Hamlette
while the hospitals had no supplies, blood on the floors and walls and no working toilets, Haveman thinks Iraq's major health concern is smoking. So he wants to use a bunch of his budget for an anti-smoking campaign. (I'm pretty anti-smoking myself...for myself, but honestly, those people were getting shot and had no way to get medical care and he wants to tell them their real problem is that they smoke?)

And the guy who did the traffic code? Just when you've read what you think is the worst story in the book, the next one is worse. Great read, anyway we can recommend him for a pulitzer?

Thanks for the review. I read it a couple of weeks ago.

My former boss, Bob Gross, went to Iraq to set up a system of unemployment offices. He was supposed to stay 6 months but was back in less than 4. He said he came back early because his job was done, he ended unemployment in Iraq.

Gross fits the mold of everyone else in the book, arrogant, self important, opportunist. (I probably don't need to remind you that Iraq has a 70% unemployment rate now. A side story, he tried to recruit a few people I know who really do know something about unemployment agencies. He told them "money is no object, name your price, I can get it for you." They knew he didn't know what he was doing and didn't want to get involved. They also knew no one could solve the unemployment problem in 6 months, much less 4.)

You are so right, the book is one of, if not the, best one of the whole mess. Read it next...no, read it now.
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Skarbrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 08:20 PM
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11. Just bought it today. Kinda....
I've been waiting for Xmas to get my Amazon.com and Barnes and Nobles gift certificates. That's all I wanted for Xmas. :) I go into B&N today get an arm full of books, including "Imperial Life in the Emerald City" and when I got to the check-out I realized I had forgotten the gift certificate. GODDDDDD I was mad. :) They are holding my books for me and I'm going to pick them up tomorrow. I've been waiting to get this particular one for several weeks. I heard about it before the author was on with Jon, but after seeing him on The Daily Show I knew I had to have it as soon as possible. It was hard to hold out until Xmas. I read a few pages in the bookstore and it grabbed me right away.

I also bought, or will buy, "Ghost Wars". After these two books, I think I'm going to try some fiction for awhile.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 08:26 PM
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12. Thanks for the review.
It will go on my list of books to read.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 10:13 PM
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13. Something I recall from that TDS interview
The guy who was put "in charge" of setting up the Iraq Stock Exchange was just a kid out of college who was a Bush loyalist. IIRC he had a degree in economics, but was basically utterly clueless.

Great review.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 11:48 PM
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14. I just got the book!
along with some others. I got it because I kept hearing how good it was. So I got it for myself for xmas.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:00 AM
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15. It's a toss-up for me...
Edited on Fri Dec-29-06 12:01 AM by Bigmack
"Emerald City" is more scholarly... but "Babylon by Bus" is great, too.... in a kind of H.S. Thompson way. Read both!

"Babylon by Bus"...: Or, the true story of two friends who gave up their valuable franchise selling YANKEES SUCK T-shirts at Fenway to find meaning and adventure in Iraq, (Hardcover)
by Ray LeMoine, Jeff Neumann, Donovan Webster
From Publishers Weekly
What do you get when you mix a couple of booze-guzzling, Valium-addled, 20-something slackers from urban America with centuries-old sectarian hatred and a dubious war? Well, you get this alternately lame, alternately compelling tale from the first year after the American invasion of Iraq in 2003. At loose ends, T-shirt merchants (selling "Yankees suck" at Fenway) Lemoine and Neumann decide to head out to Iraq by way of Israel. Having passed on an opportunity to go to Baghdad earlier in the war—"During Iraq's looting, the thought of loading up a stolen Lamborghini with Persian rugs and Baathist booty had crossed our minds. Stupid, I know"—these scalawags quickly find themselves in the middle of the Green Zone in Baghdad, scamming their way into jobs managing an NGO, dodging angry mobs in Sadr City and partying with just about everybody in town. Along with the boozing ("Jeff and I awoke at the NPR house with searing hangovers from a night of booze and pills"), there's a lot of name-dropping (among many others, Jon Lee Anderson of the New Yorker). Not entirely without merit, the book does capture a sense of the madness of postwar Iraq. (Aug.)
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StrictlyRockers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:16 AM
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16. Thanks for the tip, Adder.
Roommate works at Borders, and I was looking for a book like this.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 01:19 AM
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17. K & R - It was a very good book
and very readable, as well. Often when I think nothing can shock me anymore, I find I was wrong, and there were so many things in that book that shocked me, even though I've read a LOT of books about Iraq. I, too, recommend the book highly.
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 08:37 AM
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18. kick for Chandrasekaran n/t
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 08:40 AM
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19. I went to two major bookstores yesterday
to find it (Borders and B& N). Both places had it sold out and back-ordered. I broke down and ordered it from Amazon (along with the new Orson Scott Card book).

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Chalco Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 10:02 AM
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20. All one had to do to know this endeavor was going to fail...
was to visit a middle eastern country for just one day or to read Paul Bowles "The Sheltering Sky".
Period.
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 10:18 AM
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21. What if Ayn Rand and Jerry Falwell had had a child? Obviously he would
be in the Green Zone.
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Felix Mala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:49 AM
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23. Neoconservatism is, essentially, an unworkable model for governing
It failed in the US, why would they think it would work in Iraq?

And they are so delusional, they still haven't realized that their time has passed.
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canaar Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 08:01 PM
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25. I also just finished it
Since the days of Herbert Hoover, through Reagan and hopefully culminating with Little Boots, in many different and creative fashions and on countless occasions these stupidly arrogant bastards have proved their economic theories to be catastrophically wrong to anyone who is paying attention and to everyone who should be paying attention.

Faith based science, faith based politics and faith based economics are the tools these members of the unholy autocratic alliance of Christian Fascists, Economic Imperialists and Cowardly Authoritarians have employed to approach to within spitting distance of their apocalyptic goal of plunging us back into the heart of the European middle ages. This time with the exception that during the middle ages, it was the Moslem civilizing impact that preserved science and philosophy. Perhaps we may hope to rely on the Chinese to provide that role for civilization this time. Unfortunately, we are now at that stage of our devolution that the fundamentalist peoples of the Book have linked arms in a death grip.

Interestingly, Grand Ayatollah al-Sistani comes across as being perhaps the only player in this debacle who appeared to practice any democratic political philosophy.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 08:43 PM
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26. Kick and R'd
Edited on Fri Dec-29-06 08:44 PM by opihimoimoi
:kick:

OOPS too late....srry
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:01 PM
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27. my liberal boss saw it on my desk, and scooped it up before I was done!
He saw the author being interviewed by Jon Stewart, and was desperate to find out more. It really is an excellent read. Horrifying, and often depressing -- but can Chandrasekaran ever write! It's gotten so I'm so bummed out by Iraq War books (and Bush administration books in general), that I have a hard time finishing them ... but I know I'll be able to read all of this one (once I pry it away from my boss). Just when things seem totally grim, Chandrasekaran will give some shockingly-funny detail that rings true, because nobody would be able to make up anything that off-the-wall. And so you keep reading, and the awfulness keeps unfolding.

I know I am making the book sound flippant at times, but the author really is very serious about what he saw. During the Daily Show interview, his outrage was so palpable that even Jon Stewart (who has certainly been angry about all this, for years) was trying to calm him down.

My boss, by the way, has worked in the Middle East for years. He was over there not long ago ... not in Iraq, but close enough ... and the things he saw (three kinds of ice cream inside the US military base, and children wailing for water in the streets beyond the compound, for example) suggest that things really are as surreal as Chandrasekaran says.

As you say, Plaidder -- the misrule at home, the botching of Katrina and the WTC first responders' welfare, and now what looks like another four-star fur-lined oceangoing disaster, regarding the Bush African AIDS strategy -- it's ALL ABOUT THEM and why they have failed.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 09:16 PM
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28. Checked Barnes & Noble after work tonight; they were out! I have a gift card,
and can just order online if I don't see there in the next week or so. Outstanding review, and thanks for the heads up on this book! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:44 PM
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29. The New York Times reviewed it similarly
The review in the New York Times Book Review, Dec. 17, 2006, was aptly titled , referring to "the C.P.A.'s bright young Republican ideologues", who never left the Green Zone.

Chandrasekaran's book also made the list.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 05:03 AM
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30. with your wonderful description of this book i decided i want to read
it. so i bought it today.

several bookstores in the area are out of it and were telling me it was on backorder from their distributers

but i found a store with two copies left. now they have one.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:47 AM
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31. let me know how it is
did you read any of it yet?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 07:42 PM
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33. not yet--i was going to start reading it tonight. n/t
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 07:42 PM by orleans
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 03:36 AM
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36. update--page thirty--so far it is very good--
easy to read

the detail flows like good fiction (not flowery & overdone but casually as if an intelligent friend is describing this to you)

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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 11:36 AM
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40. thanks
It is now next on my list...:kick:
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 02:52 PM
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32. I ordered it through Amazon using the DU link
I wish I knew how much DU got using that link - because I just order a computer program with a book for $200 also
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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 09:11 PM
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34. Just ordered it from my local public library
We have three copies in the system and six of us so far waiting to read it. This is a good thing. I love to get books like this from my local Ann-Coulter loving public library. I want to demonstrate to those happy folks that not all members of my community are neocon rejects.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:47 AM
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35. A better book on what the CPA actually DID is "The Bush Agenda" by Juhasz
it details the shit that was done, irrespective of whatever these people mentioned did, that mattered most. Namely, the illegal fundamental changing of Iraqs laws and economic structure that would essentially privatize the country and sell it off. This was done by decree and behind closed doors and renders all this surface detail of much less consequence. We know they are morons. But with what was done, it mattered much less over the long term that they were, their fuckups became superfluous to the deep criminality that took place in Bremers office itself.
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 03:11 PM
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38. Chandrasekaran does talk about the fact that this was all illegal.
That's what I mean about how my review doesn't really do the book justice--it goes into all kinds of things, including the fact that several of Bremer's people at least now claim that they told him that privatizing Iraq's economy was a violation of the international law governing occupations. He didn't give a shit. I mean why should he, really--the invasion was illegal, the whole thing was illegal.

One of the things I liked about Chandresekaran's book is that even when he's not explicitly make the point that this is an imperial power grab, the language he uses keeps that in the foreground. He always refers to Bremer as the "viceroy" of Iraq, rather than the head of the CPA--because really, that's what he was: a colonial governor put in charge of the country and ruling it in the king's stead.

The fact that Iraq descended so quickly into lawlessness makes more sense once you consider the tone Bremer et al. set. They obviously didn't give a shit about the rule of law--so why should anyone else?

Mad all over again now,

The Plaid Adder
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 03:01 AM
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39. The book IS highly entertaining, maybe aimed at a Hollywood optioning
But, while I could be wrong, in the 30 minutes I eagerly paged through and read parts at the bookstore, I could find little or no mention of the steps and details of the criminality Bremer and those who followed him engaged in, tied in with the patterns displayed by their kind before and since Iraq.

I will pick it up for an airplane read sometime.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 03:38 AM
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37. .
:kick: and :thumbsup:!
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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 11:43 AM
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41. I just started "Fiasco" and this one is also on my list!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 12:23 PM
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42. Frightening. Will be reading it soon. Just think, our Congresscritters MUST
have known much of this. Thanks for the tip.
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