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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 03:59 PM
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PREDICTION: Cheney Will Perjure himself during testimony
And Fitzgerald is ready for it. Rove and Scooter have cut deals to take down Cheney. When he does, he'll be forced to resign and then he'll be indicted.

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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:01 PM
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1. I sincerely
hope you are correct.

From your mouth to God's ear.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:04 PM
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8. Hmm ... interesting possibility
And investigations would hopefully get RatBastard to crack ...
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:01 PM
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2. If his lips move, he's lying. That's a proven fact.
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rhiannon55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:01 PM
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3. YES!
Oh please please please let this be true!
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QuestionAll... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:03 PM
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4. that sounds so possible...
I like it!
but then there's those carriers perched in the gulf around the time cheney's on the stand...
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:03 PM
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5. That's some prediction. I hope you're right!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:03 PM
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6. Rove and Cheney have cut deals with Fitzgerald? Gut? Clues?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:06 PM
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14. Rove and Scooter
Rove was going to be indicted. Truthout was not the only one who thought this. Why wasn't he? Because he cut a deal.

Scooter, if he has half a brain, would not rely on Cheney's testimony for his defense. But it is the DEFENSE that is calling Cheney, not the Prosecution. The only way they would do this is to set Cheney up for a fall.

All Clues and Guts, no facts, just supposition.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:28 PM
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25. Thanks for the theory. I meant Rove and Libby. I'm afraid I type
Cheney's name too often and it is imprisoned in my head. What an awful thing! Maybe I should quit trying to follow what these mad men/women creatures are doing to do to my country. But, not until after this Brewsster-Jennings-Wilson event, followed by the civic trial of the Wilsons and the international tribunals for war crimes.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:04 PM
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7. Of course the NEOcons and his buddies will excuse it with,
"So did Bill Clinton" even though BC didn't get anyone killed with his lies.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:04 PM
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9. oh jeez
not more "fitzmas" nonsense . . .
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 07:12 PM
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37. Well, if you prefer
there are always the numerous smoking and mountain rescue threads. This one is more interesting to me, though.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 08:32 PM
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39. this definitely is better than
smoking, rescue and 2008 primary threads.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:04 PM
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10. If he testifies at all.
Still very much an open question. A court requesting his appearance will not, by itself, impress him.
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:05 PM
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11. I hope so, but I'm not so sure...
If you were Rove or Libby, who would YOU be more afraid of? Fitzgerald or Cheney?
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Imperialism Inc. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:05 PM
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12. It's the defense that will be calling him to the stand.
If Scooter is cutting deals why would he use him as a witness?
I doubt this is against Cheney's will. He surely agreed to it in private.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:07 PM
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15. It's a perfect setup for the defense to call him and not the prosecution
If the prosecution was calling him, Cheney would be defensive. Cheney won't be prepared for a betrayal from the defense.
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Imperialism Inc. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:22 PM
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23. Lol. OK. Call me when the shuttle lands.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:06 PM
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13. I hope you are correct. That would be quite a spectacle!
However, I'm afraid Dick won't have any recollection of anything, and will step down shortly after testifying due to health reasons. No doubt it won't be difficult to find a medical expert who will testify Cheney is in fragile health. :eyes:
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:09 PM
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16. People like that have no problem at all with lying to save their worthless ass.



It didn't bother Raygun and it didn't bother Nixon.

They were born without a conscience. That's what

made them decide to be rethuglicans.






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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:12 PM
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17. I expect a lot of "don't recall" and 'corrected' testimony - IF he testifies at all.
I don't pretend to have a crystal ball ... so I'll wait for it to happen. :shrug:

It's hard for me to imagine, given what I've seen so much of from Cheney, that he'll come close to telliing the truth ... or even a close approximation. His incredible arrogance would, in a 'fair' world, put him unavoidably in contempt of court at the very minimum. It'll be a challenge to counsel to save him from it, imho.

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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:12 PM
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18. If this is a bet
I'm not taking it.

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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:16 PM
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19. Haven't I said this all along ????
Those that gave up on Fitz will see for themselves that, this guy is no push over, and the dirt we all knew was there....is there.
Cheney will be gone by the end of January !
Why do you think McCain has been sucking ass so hard here lately ? He really believes the Senate will confirm him...and they just may.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:18 PM
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21. I made a post a few weeks back that McCain would end up being the next President
I got a lot of boos and jeers, but the principle was the same...

Cheney would resign, then Bush would resign or be impeached.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:18 PM
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20. I predict that he will have 'forgotten' quite a bit
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StopVoteFraud Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:19 PM
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22. OMG, I hope so...
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:27 PM
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24. Don't mess with me. He'll testify like Barry Bonds and skate on all possible charges.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:30 PM
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26. PREDICTION: Cheney will Injure himself during testimony
...like reset his pacemaker accidentally on purpose.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:33 PM
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27. cheney
We hope so, and then we can get a hold of his 'energy' files
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:33 PM
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28. What's the old saying? Don't count your chickens before their hatched?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 05:44 PM
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29. Dick Cheney will "have a fatal heart attack" and hang out with Ken
Lay in the South Pacific before he lets himself get indicted.
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 05:56 PM
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30. We're gionna wash that man right out of our hair.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 06:01 PM
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31. But maybe we're just cockeyed optimists. nt
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 06:23 PM
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34. Don't you mean Paraguay?
Btw, anyone heard from Mrs. Kennyboy Lay recently?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 09:19 AM
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40. They summer in Paraguay and winter in the South Pacific on one of
those atolls that don't appear on any map.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 06:04 PM
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32. I can't wait for this
Seriously, to see Cheney publicly exposed under oath would be orgasmic. :popcorn: :popcorn: :rofl:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 06:06 PM
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33. Sun will rise in East. Water is wet.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 06:24 PM
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35. And if he doesn't perjure himself
on the Plame affair he will do so in the Nigerianbribery scandal.Or on the Hal/KBR Iraq fiasco.or on a multitude of issues.
One way or another he IS GOING DOWN baby!!
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 06:53 PM
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36.  I doubt it very much indeed.
He's not a fool; he knows every word he says will be scrutinised more closely than a very-closely-scrutinised thing. You can bet that he'll go over every possible question with a team of lawyers before hand to work out *exactly* how far he can go without technically committing perjury.

The chances of him actually committing perjury are very slight indeed, and the chances of him being convicted of it are negligable.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 07:17 PM
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38. I hope you're right
The part about Cheney's perjuring himself is a given. Whether or not his perjury can be proven is another matter. None of these people, not one of them, have any reservations about lying. It's one of the things they do automatically. They look down on the rest of us, and see no reason to play by whatever silly rules the rest of us do.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 10:00 AM
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41. Dead eye is gone
If this doesn't get him, then there are several other tripwires out there. I sincerely hope he doesn't heart attack out of justice, whether real or staged, I want, no need this monster to face justice for everything he's brought about.
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heldmyw Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-20-06 11:41 AM
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42. I hate to be a gloomsayer...
...but even if Cheney is caught red-handed (or tongued, as the case may be) by the time anything like indictments, resignations, or even a real trial can be put together, it'll be 2009.

If there's one thing you can say about Fitz, it's that he moves with glacial slowness.
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