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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:05 AM
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Military wants to secretly test product on civilians
http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061217/REPOSITORY/612170331/1002/NEWS02

Blood substitute may be used in Iraq war


By ANDREW BRIDGES
The Associated Press


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December 17. 2006 10:00AM


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blood substitute made by a Massachusetts company that the military wants to test on civilian trauma victims is urgently needed to save lives on the battlefield in places like Iraq, a Navy official told federal advisers last week.

The Navy wants to test the product, derived from cow blood, on about 1,100 trauma victims in emergency situations. It proposes doing so without obtaining the customary informed consent of patients in advance.

The substitute blood, called Hemopure, would be given on the way to the hospital to patients ages 18 to 69 who have lost dangerous amounts of blood. It would substitute for the saline fluids typically given in ambulances when donated blood is unavailable for transfusion.

In Iraq, 68 percent of the U.S. troops who die of trauma before reaching a hospital suffer severe bleeding as part of their injuries, the Navy's deputy surgeon general, Rear Adm. John Mateczun, told a panel of federal health advisers. An available blood substitute could save many of those lives, he added.

"We urgently need an oxygen-carrying capability that does not require refrigeration, is universally compatible and can be readily administered in a field setting," Mateczun said in remarks to a Food and Drug Administration panel, which convened to consider whether the agency should lift a hold on the experiment. The FDA isn't required to follow the recommendations of its advisory committees but usually does.


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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:06 AM
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1. It's been proven: 100% of US troops in Iraq die from illegal occupation
Band-aid, or cure?
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MOB Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:07 AM
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2. unethical!
Edited on Sun Dec-17-06 11:12 AM by MOB
What the military often does is, instead of calling them "tests" they call them "missions," thereby getting around the Nuremburg / Helsinki conventions on bioethics that prohibit unconsensual human testing.

IMO - HIGHLY unethical!

I have to add that it's quite the idea to manufacture synthetic blood. However, how would test this in an ethical way? Natural blood already has a proven track record! It would probably be very difficult to establish results that would suggest that synthetic blood would be better than natural blood.
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:18 AM
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3. They're not looking for a replacement for natural blood, just a stopgap.
But yes, highly unethical.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:19 AM
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4. Here's a discussion from a few days ago:
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