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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 08:21 PM
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Gore/Feingold - The Brilliant Strategy?
Al Gore is NOT running for office in 2008.

Russ Feingold is NOT running for office in 2008.

Al Gore is a relatively unknown gentleman, who supposedly was Vice President of the United States for some 8 brief years, and was also a U.S. Senator for a few years prior to that. More recently he did some movie about this minor issue called global warming.

Seriously, Mr. Gore can afford to sit back and watch while all these "unelectable" nominees beat themselves up. He can then come in, mid-late 2007 perhaps, and be an instant contender. With a groundswell of support behind him, he could instantly become the Anti-Hillary.

Unlike her, he has been against the war from the beginning. It would be difficult for opponents to mount an attack against his Global Warming platform, and it would be especially tough in the Democratic primaries.

So, assuming Al Gore ran, and was the eventual nominee. He goes up to
Mr. Feingold, who by then has served 18+ months in a Democratic
majority Senate. Completely unbruised by a run in the primaries. A run he was destined to lose to Mr. Gore anyways. He says, Russ, you've also been against the war from the beginning. I've known you many years, and I think together we could get this country back on track in the 21st century. That's assuming this conversation hasn't already occured "in earnest."

These are serious men. Their humor is dry, and they don't have the
"swagger" of an idiot like w. But if things continue to get worse, and
the Democratic congress meets with further resistence from the repubs
and wh, then it will be time to get serious, and Al Gore with Russ
Feingold, I think would be intelligent and excellent choices to lead
this country forward.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 08:28 PM
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1. Works for me. They've been right all along!
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 08:32 PM
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2. It's a big longshot to happen
But that ticket would energize the base more than any Democratic ticket in generations.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 08:47 PM
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3. So much of what I want for 2008 depends on Gore. I think the ticket
comes down to Gore, Clark, Feingold, Edwards. The two that I'd choose depends on Gore's decision.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 08:51 PM
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4. Yup. I think Gore has the problem that he may stifle debate, if he jumps in
too early. He is just so-o-o-o-o-o good--such a great candidate in so many ways, not the least of which is that most Americans think he should have been in the White House all these years anyway, that he was cheated out of it. I think he will just run away with the nomination (and the country!). His early entry could also suppress other fine candidates, less experienced, from developing. But I think he needs to be drafted, and that could be tricky--given the primary system. Ironically, the primary system was created to let the people have a say in the nomination, and not just the old pols in the "smoke filled rooms" at the Convention. But with Diebold/ES&S running our elections, can we trust the primaries any more? I don't. I think Diebold/ES&S is choosing our candidates--and a whole of filthy corporate money is the other big factor.

I would LOVE to see our candidate eschew all TV ads--and thus the need for pouring big bucks into the war profiteering corporate news monopolies. It's time for an UNUSUAL campaign, one that breaks the rules, and busts through all the bullshit. Boy, do we need it! I'm already sick of "Time Magazine"'s candidates--Hillary Clinton and Barack O'Bama. America needs HONESTY and STRAIGHT TALK, not cheerleading and more corporate ass-kissing.

Or else, do something unusual with the ads, instead of these airbrushed monstrosities of self-inflation, or hit pieces. Make people READ the ads. Play the "1812 Overture" behind WORDS with intelligent CONTENT. Both funny and thought-provoking.

You get the idea. WE ARE STUCK IN A RUT. The idea of a "business as usual" campaign season nauseates me--after all that's gone down.

But I really do hope that SOMEBODY stands up soon and says NO TV ADS--I WILL NOT PUT MYSELF IN HOCK TO BIG MONEY FOR 30-SECOND LEFT-BRAIN AIRBRUSHED IMAGE-MAKING.

And I hope to God that Gore and Feingold have that conversation, and save us from it all.



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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 09:59 PM
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42. Rather than TV ads, the Gore-Feingold or whomever ticket
could donate funds to worthy causes in several communities, indicating that what would have been worthless TV ads, is going to a shelter project in Cincinnati, a mother-infant clinic in Maine, etc. Putting money behind their beliefs, and making the argument that TV campaign craziness has fatigued the American people and it's time to bring it to a halt.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 08:56 PM
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5. I LOVE that ticket!!
:applause: Been saying it for almost a year now.

Love it, love it, love it! :bounce:
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 09:13 PM
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6. Me too--been saying it alot
hoping like crazy that it happens
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 10:48 AM
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25. Hi Contrite!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 07:51 PM
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41. Thanks!
Appreciate the welcome!:toast:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 09:15 PM
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7. That's my dream ticket, no question.
I'd take Gore-Clark or even Gore-Obama, too.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 10:25 PM
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8. Gore is unelectable. He lost to the stupidest man ever to run.
If Gore is the candidate we lose.
If Kerry is the candidate we lose.
If Hillary is the candidate we lose.
If Clark is the candidate we lose.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 11:43 PM
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9. How Can You Compare Gore To Any Of Those Others?
Gore was Vice President of the United States. None of those other people can make the same claim.

Gore has it ALL over Kerry. There's no comparison between the two. Hillary will be Gore's main challenger in the primary.

I take nothing away from Clark, but don't think he'll be able to compete with Hillary, and without Gore in the race, Hillary's main challenge will probably come from Edwards.

Theoretically, if Gore won, he could actually have 3 people to choose from that would make a strong ticket. Feingold or Edwards would be most likely, although picking Hillary would raise lots of eyebrows for sure, as it would make her the first Female Vice President, and put her in a prime position to run in 8 years if she wanted. I don't think they get along though, and Gore would be more likely to choose Feingold/Edwards as his running mate, if he won.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 03:02 AM
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20. It looks like you've picked a specific candidate and everyone else is "unelectable". (nt)
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MoJoWorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 07:17 AM
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21. Gore WON, the Supremes took it away from him... lest we buy into the spin. n/t
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 07:23 AM
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22. I actually like Gore MORE now than I did in 2000
I was close to voting for Nader then. But I really love how he's grown in maturity, wisdom, and passion about what he feels important since then. The only reason people think that "if Gore is the candidate we lose.", is because corporate media have been telling them to believe that way. The DLC and the corporate world is scared to death of Gore running. That's why Gore needs to be cagey now about how he enters the race if he's going to. He's not goin go to get a lot of corporate help. He's going to have to rely on an "outside group" of benefactors, etc. that care about issues and the people like he does to help him go up against the corporate monster in Washington.

I think Feingold would be a perfect complement to that ticket. And no, just because Feingold said he wasn't going to run (for president), doesn't mean that he won't take a VP slot if he likes who's offering it. And I think he'd join up with Gore given the opportunity.

Gore/Feingold I think is the best shot for something like public campaign financing passing at a national level, and to nominate judges that will strike down corporate personhood and corporate "free speech" that have been plaguing our courts for years, with the REAL judicial activism that's been going on there.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:46 AM
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29. BULLSHIT - AL GORE WON THE ELECTION IN 2000...
THE ONLY VOTE HE LOST WAS THE ONE CAST BY THE TREASONOUS 5 IN THE SUPREME COURT.

DAMMIT - HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO SHOUT THIS AT THE PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION?????????
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:35 PM
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33. That leaves Obama, Bayh, Biden and Vilsack
You believe the map will resemble 2000 but with some combination of midwestern states to go over 270?

Please opine on the chances of later three centrist candidates.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:48 PM
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36. He didn't lose.
He won.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 11:56 PM
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10. So brilliant. Let's think that this is possible.
This ticket would be perfect.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:04 AM
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11. Thats an awesome ticket.nt
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:10 AM
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12. That's my dream ticket...
from your mouth to God's ears.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:20 AM
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13. You stealing my Christmas wish?
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:55 AM
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14. That's my dream ticket -- with Clark as SoD or SoS n/t
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 01:00 AM
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16. Clark as SoD, Bill Clinton as Secretary of State.
Gore needs to have a Dream Team Cabinet.
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cool user name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:59 AM
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15. That is my dream ticket ...
... yet Feingold has ruled out running.

Not sure why but he has. :shrug:
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:49 AM
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31. my fantasy ticket too
Reasons Russ is not running:

He doesn't have the fundraising ability that some of the other presidential candidates have and he is not a wealthy man.

He's divorced (makes it hard to run for president) and his daughters do not want him to run.

All that considered, I think he'd be a great VP to Gore.
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cool user name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 01:32 PM
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48. Me too.
I think if they declared a ticket, there would be a huge ground swell of support.

I might be biased but I really don't see how anyone can beat a Gore/Feingold ticket.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 01:02 AM
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17. I would vote Gore-Feingold in a second. nt
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 01:06 AM
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18. Are you writing a movie?
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 01:53 AM
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19. I'm with you.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 09:10 AM
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23.  And how do you propose we survive until 2009?
Edited on Sun Dec-10-06 09:10 AM by RestoreGore
Just curious since the crisis Mr. Gore is speaking of and warning us about seems to be for the most part secondary to these speculation games.
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BeyondThePale Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 09:44 AM
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24. I love the Gore/Feingold ticket!
Bring 'em on!
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:28 AM
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26. I could eagerly support that ticket...
...and that's just about the only ticket that I can say that about.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:36 AM
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27. I think it would be an unbeatable ticket...
And the best possible ticket for the good of the country, should they decide to team up.

Who else can we TRUST?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 03:06 PM
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39. The GOP's "PERFECT STORM"
"FEAR THIS"...freepers! And with all the power the GOP has heaped on the White House now Gore could get some sweet revenge on election thieves and other assorted criminal types! And with a democratic congress Gore could rock the GOP's little world big time. Yes GOPers...FEAR THIS!

Of Course if Gore does win in 08, those with "nothing to hide" need not worry, about any REAL investigating.

Al Gore could make all the GOPers pray for Hillary Clinton!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:39 AM
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28. Certainly a dream ticket in my view.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:49 AM
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30. I'll take Gore/Anyone, but this is my personal dream wish! K&R n/t
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:52 AM
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32. Made my day just seeing it in writing
Both men are right for the job....
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 12:56 PM
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34. It Is A Near-perfect Scene.
Find a way to tuck anyone named Clark into the upper end of their management and I'm with it.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 01:49 PM
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35. This is my first choice too for 08- has been for months now.
Wes Clark would make an excellent Secretary of Defense or Secretary of State (who better to run our military?) and Obama (also a favorite) could be somewhere high up in the cabinet so that he could be groomed for the future since I know he'll be President one day- I'm just not sure when.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:52 PM
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37. I prefer Gore/Obama, but I'd be thrilled as well with Gore/Feingold.
;)
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keepCAblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:55 PM
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38. This is my dream ticket...made a bumper sticker months ago!
http://www.cafepress.com/massmadness.60288613

Gore-Feingold 2008 Bumper Sticker

It's never too early to start campaigning! Al Gore - Russ Feingold 2008 -- an American dream ticket for the 2008 presidential election!

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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 03:09 PM
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40. That's my dream ticket
In a perfect world, a Gore/Feingold ticket would be reality. Two superb candidates.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 10:44 PM
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43. Man, these are the people we need leading us now!

I just can't get behind Hillary or the made-for-TV Obama show.

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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:02 PM
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44. That's a ticket I could very happily support. n/t
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:12 PM
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45. same gore, different jew... is how the reddest states will play it.
Feingold is on my VERY short list of preferable potential Gore running mates.

Wes Clark is another- although i'd prefer to see him as SoD.
Barack Obama rounds out the list -for now and only because of his current "media-darling" status.

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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:26 PM
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46. What about Edwards?
He needs a job. VP? Sec'y of Labor?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:36 PM
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47. how about attorney general?
he'd be well suited for that.

his dlc/bilderberger leanings keep him off my "big ticket" list.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:11 PM
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49. Sounds good. nt
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