CT University study finds that BUSH LOVERS ARE INDEED "NUTS"

[Atman]

This is a riot. The best part is, the study didn't set out in search of such this conclusion, they were trying to develop an advocacy program for mentally ill voters. They realized that BushBots are certifiable only after looking at the data. As if there was really much doubt...

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Are George W. Bush Lovers Certifiable?

December 7, 2006
By Andy Bromage

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(Christopher) Lohse, a social work master’s student at Southern Connecticut State University, says he has proven what many progressives have probably suspected for years: a direct link between mental illness and support for President Bush.

Lohse says his study is no joke. The thesis draws on a survey of 69 psychiatric outpatients in three Connecticut locations during the 2004 presidential election. Lohse’s study, backed by SCSU Psychology professor Jaak Rakfeldt and statistician Misty Ginacola, found a correlation between the severity of a person’s psychosis and their preferences for president: The more psychotic the voter, the more likely they were to vote for Bush.

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“Our study shows that psychotic patients prefer an authoritative leader,” Lohse says. “If your world is very mixed up, there’s something very comforting about someone telling you, ‘This is how it’s going to be.’”

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“Bush supporters had significantly less knowledge about current issues, government and politics than those who supported Kerry,” the study says.

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The bolding is mine. If I could put it on a billboard, I would. Can I get a collective BWHAHAHAHA? :rofl:

Linky-poo, for those with all your faculties intact

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[TechBear_Seattle]

1. K & R

:rofl: I love academics!

[izzie]

2. I am sure they are right. I had c-span on this morning.

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[butterfly77]

20. Did you hear that,..

Bush is a wonderful man and us liberals are mean...Oh, I Left out Christian man..,,

[izzie]

29. I often wonder where these people went to school.

They sure did not read the same govt. books I read. It is almost as if these people want divine rights back. The churches were all for divine rights in the old days also. Maybe that is why my dear old Republican father said Church and state must not get together. You must think for your self in this country.

[Atman]

3. Don't R without a K!

This one deserves to be seen...don't let it sink! It's too much fun!

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[ComerPerro]

4. I would have told them this for HALF the cost of the study

[gemma]

5. that's a no brainer nt

[sarge43]

6. Hell, all they had to do was lurk around Freeperville aka

Mordor for a week or so. You don't need an advance degree to figure out those creatures are moon bats with fangs.

[Exultant Democracy]

7. We need universal heathcare so that we can get these

deranged nut bag voters some rehabilitation.

[Judi Lynn]

8. Whoa! There is an unexpected admission at the end of the article, too!

For his part, Lohse is a self-described “Reagan revolution fanatic” but said that W. is just “beyond the pale.” ●

Holy smokes!

This is WONDERFUL.

Praises be to Atman!

[Atman]

9. It was tough deciding which four paragraphs to post!

It is a good read, eh? Although the "praise" goes to Lohse...I was just eatin' some wings and reading the alt news rag! There is another good article in the same issue, regarding comparisons between Bush and Nixon...

http://www.ctnow.com/custom/nmm/hartfordadvocate/hce-hta-1207-ht50bisbort50.artdec07,0,6611095.story?coll=hce-utility-ha-advocate

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[Judi Lynn]

28. It DOES sound as if they've reincarnated, doesn't it?

The depth of their utter singleminded pursuit of power HAS been witnessed already, in the lifetimes of very many of us Du'er folks (not to mention the felons _Bush carried over from the Reagan administration's Iran/Contra crimes).

,from the article gave a fresh new way of seeing them delights and amazes:

They're all individuals, yes, but they are also "types," power-crazed minions who hang around national capitals and gravitate like bacteria to any political wound or opportunity.
(snip)

Loved the descriptions of those earlier bacteria!



John Mitchell, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Erlichman, Jeb Magruder, Alexander Butterfield, H R Haldeman, Colson, Liddy, Dean
Isn't it sad that Dean seems to be the only honorable man of them all?

[ima_sinnic]

30. sheesh, never let it be said that they are not all White Men

and I am sick to death of all of them. The last few years have been a nightmare! May they all roast slowly in hell for all eternity while fire ants nibble at their eyes.

[saracat]

10. K and R ! Only what we knew.Hilarious!

[piedmont]

11. So now we demonize the mentally ill...

This post and responding posts are filled with stigma-promoting words and phrases: "nuts," "certifiable," "deranged nut bag." There are many wonderful people out there who deal with mental illness who most certainly are not "nut bags" nor republican. Please, we don't need stigma promotion on DU.

[Atman]

12. There's one in every thread.

:eyes:

Although I do agree on one level...it is not very nice to assume that mentally ill people love Bush. I am sure many mentally ill people still have enough cognitive ability to see what a certifiable douche-bag he is.

Now, are you going to get all teary about disparaging feminine hygiene, too?

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[piedmont]

14. I would hope there'd be more than that

Atman, why is the info in that article such a "riot?" Why is it worth a collective "BWAHAHAHAHAH?" What, exactly, makes it so funny?

I'm guessing neither you nor anyone you know has dealt with stigma associated with mental illness. Attitudes that people with mental illness are dangerous or stupid, etc. make it more difficult to receive medical care and understanding and assistance from family members, employers, and others. As I said before, your post only perpetuates the stigma.

[Atman]

15. You are "guessing" wrong, and you are making incorrect assumptions

I have directly dealt with family members who have experienced both "mental illness" and what in now officially impolite to refer to as "mental retardation." But sometimes, Piedmont, an article is just an article. Especially when one considers that this study was undertaken as a way to HELP the mentally ill with voting. And that made it a subject of interest to people on DU, imho. The newspaper I quoted used the term "nuts." I called the findings and the way they came about to be "a riot" and deserving of a few laughs, but that in no way lessens my compassion for anyone but the "nuts" over on the other "conservative" and "freeper" boards.

One of the things I am so tired of is the DU word police who find a way to take ANYTHING as offense to SOMEONE. Calling a person "wussy" here means you really wanted to say "pussy," and therefor you hate women (but curiously, calling someone a "dick" doesn't equate to hating men); calling someone anything other than "my good friend" or "that person with whom my opinion differs" is almost guaranteed to get you visit from the DU word police, who seem to forget that language is a colorful and ever-evolving thing.

Piedmont, I understand your concern, but please don't make assumptions about me or my family members just because you don't agree with the way I use the English language. I am very cognizant of the power of words, and I do not use terms like "freeptard" or "'tard" or even "retard" because they are genuinely offensive, imo. But now we can't say NUTS? Are you NUTS?

If we eliminate every word which might be offensive to someone with a special circumstance in their lives, we'll simply have no words left that will be appropriate outside of a Dick & Jane reader. You'll be relegating writers to a form of verbal t-ball, where no one is every out, and every game ends in a tie. Fuck that. I prefer to think that most people on this board are intelligent enough to understand when a genuine insult is being hurled.

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[piedmont]

16. labeling PEOPLE as "nut bags," "certifiable," "insane" is just more name-calling

The intent is to discredit a group of people (GWB voters) with labels associated with mental illness, and thus makes being mentally ill a stigmatized condition. Yes, word policing can be taken too far, but I don't think that's the case here-- some of this thread just seems mean-spirited.

[tandot]

18. So, I can't call Dubya a sociopath or psychopath anymore?

No wonder my post count is so low. It is taking me forever to triple-check my posts to make sure I do not use any words that could offend anyone.

[piedmont]

21. I'm not talking about people being offended...

I'm talking about characterizing illness in such negative terms that it makes it harder for people with that illness to seek and get treatment and understanding from society. And about Bush, I'm not a doctor so I won't try to diagnose him. His decisions have been often been irrational. They have also been highly logical-- but motivated by greed, power-lust, and down-right evil. Why resort to calling him "sick" when evil does the job?

[tandot]

22. He meets at least 3 DSM criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder:

http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/39/1/25-a

DSM-IV-TR Diagnostic Criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder (301.7)
A. There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:

1. failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
2. deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
3. impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
4. irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
5. reckless disregard for safety of self or others
6. consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations
7. lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another.


You can call him "down-right evil" ... I prefer to call him a sociopath

[Nabia2004]

25. excellent, thank you - nt

[genieroze]

13. My husbands cousin is a Bush-bot and he is nuts.

He's funny as hell though and real character. Total redneck get roadkill and make it for dinner kinda guy. I shit you not.

[jazzjunkysue]

17. * fans just like a nice, happy, simple story. They're not all nuts, but

they do diverge from responsibility and reality. They feel his outright bogtry and lack of compassion lessens their guilt for their hate and fear.

It takes a very strong person to enjoy the responsibility of a representative government. I do find that republicans are blamers, and the GOP has used that to appeal to their lowest inclinations to deride anyone who breaks ranks from the majority.

Well, now, I wonder what those "I'm with the winners" people are doing, now that their "majority" was unceremoniously thrown out of office.

So there is some truth in this, but it's as overly simplistic as a typical Bushbot's ridiculous statements that gay marriage threatens families and dissenters are terrorist appeasers.

All of this black/white exaggeration is bad for a didived country.

But, Bush himself is most definitely nuts.

[Timbuk3]

19. K&R

[Pale Blue Dot]

23. K&R

[Laurab]

24. K & R

My faculties are far from intact, but I just HAVE to kick this, because I know a * lover or two who fit perfectly. Problem is, they would never get help, since they already know everything... in their minds.

[kineneb]

26. hey, I'm crazy and I would never vote for him

but then my problem is depression, not psychosis. And, yes, I do have a psych diagnosis, so I can say they are completely nuts.

The hard-core Bush voters have checked their crayons at the door, and want someone else to do their thinking for them.

-Thank you, but I prefer to do my own thinking.

[nicknameless]

27. Great excerpt:

Rakfeldt says the study was legitimate, though not intended to show what it did.

“Yes it was a legitimate study but these data were mined after the fact,” Rakfeldt says. “You can ask new questions of the data. I haven’t looked at” Lohse’s conclusions regarding Bush, Rakfeldt says.

“That doesn’t make it illegitimate, it just wasn’t part of the original project.”

The psychosis of bushbots was revealed purely by accident.

[Vidar]

31. "Papoon, Papoon for president. You know he's not to blame.

Papoon, Papoon for president. You know he's not insane. Not insane."

[Bjorn Against]

32. I have a brother who has schizophrenia and he is a staunch Democrat...

and he is a staunch Democrat despite the fact that he is a very religious evangelical Christian who goes to one of the biggest right-wing churches in the state of Minnesota.

So while I do not doubt this study is true, I must also remind people that there are plenty of people with mental illness who do not like Bush at all.

I also must remind people that people with mental illness can be easily misled, and I can guarantee that is why so many of them support Bush.

Honestly this study is sad, and we should not be laughing at it because people with mental illness need help and they are not getting it from this administration. They are embracing a person who does not care how much they suffer, yet they do not even realize how they are being harmed.

[Dumak]

36. Talk to the mentally ill

I find that mentally ill people can be very guillable, which is why we need to make sure that their last communication from society before voting is not from the TV set. One mentally ill person I spoke with had voted for Bush in 2004. I don't know why he voted for Bush, but he watches religion on TV, so I'm guessing CBN convinced him to vote on "family values". I asked him what the difference between a Democrat and Republican is, and all he could come up with was "Republicans are for the rich, and Democrats are for the poor, right?". And he is not mentally retarded, just completely uninterested in politics, and yet feels he needs to vote - probably a message obtained from television.

I had to set him straight on a couple of things - how the Republicans are America's fascist party, much like the Nazis were Germany's fascist party back in those days. Then I told him what the Nazis did with the mentally ill, especially if they didn't have a family. Then I let him know what the Republicans wanted to do with the Social Security program. That was all that was required to make him angry enough to vote for the Democrats in 2006.

We really have to help educate them, since most of them have a hard time doing it on their own.

[B Calm]

33. My dad always said working class republicans were nuts. My sig

line was my dad's old saying to us kids when we were growing up.

[LongTomH]

34. You don't have to be crazy to love Bush; but, it helps!

Bust, seriously folks. There was a study years ago, that demonstrated that you could produce most of the symptoms of paranoiad schizophrenia, just by consistently lying to people. Once you reach the point where all your imputs are at odds with reality, you begin acting a little crazy.

As for depression, face it gang, it's awfully hard not to be depressed by the current state-of-everything in these United States.

The most hopeful thing is, the people who are not too crazy are starting to wake up!

[TahitiNut]

35. I find this very offensive and demeaning to us 'Nuts' - and our allies, the Fruits.

:grr:

[Atman]

37. 29 recs, yet this thread still doesn't show up in the "Best/Worst of DU"

I can't understand why that so-called "conservative" site, which exists soley to monitor and mock DU, hasn't picked up on this thread. :sarcasm:

Clearly, with 29 recs and a subject matter pertaining directly to them, it would seem to be a natural for the honor. Maybe they're first conferring about whether or not to change their name to "Certifiably Nuts Underground."

:hi:

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