a 9/11 poll - my nephew is writing a paper for school, please participate

[Clinton Crusader]

Poll question: a 9/11 poll - my nephew is writing a paper for school, please participate

Thanks so much for participating. My nephew asked if I could help him conduct a poll among a large group of people. Please choose the answer that best represents your feelings on 9/11.

Great thanks.

This best represents my feelings on 9/11

[whatelseisnew]

1. none of the above

sorry I can't pick one

[knitter4democracy]

2. Honestly, I don't know.

I do know that the EPA allowed people back in before it was safe and that first responders are now dying from what they were exposed to. I do know that more remains were found in a blocked sewer just a few weeks ago, which is profoundly disturbing. I do know that our president went awol that day and finally showed up that night and told us all to go shopping, which infuriated me to the point of screaming at the tv.

As for the rest, the more I read, the less I know. There is a lot of evidence for the government's official story, but there are too many holes in the story. I'm not comfortable with that. And I will never forget that Bush was president and allowed it to happen.

[whatelseisnew]

3. We definitely know the Gov't lied many many times about 9ii

If that were a choice I would have voted in this poll

[salin]

8. I have always believed that there were warnings ignored

because of great arrogance (ala nothing will happen under our watch...) I fully agree with your last sentence - I think this admin allowed it to happen. Not ready to place intentionality (as in they WANTED it to happen... though who knows) - but with certainty believe and there is now evidence to demonstrate (the ignoring of Clarke, of Tenet to Condi, the Aug. bush briefing, etc.) that there were indicators that were simply and repeatedly ignored. Could they have stopped 911? No way of knowing - but we do know that nothing was even attempted to try to stop it.

Heck, Cheney was put in charge of the Admin task-force on terrorism and didn't hold a single meeting prior to 911 - despite the warnings that were given directly to the WH. Too busy holding tons of secret "energy taskforce" meetings.

[zreosumgame]

4. to explain my vote (somewhere in all of the above)

It is my thinking that all those signals and more about 9/11 prior to the event were NOT ignored. That in some small group it was followed up on and then a plan to use it as a 'plus' for * was formed. They would let it unfold for at least the first hit then the jets on the 'war games' could be used to prevent the others from hitting. Thus getting credit for stopping even more deaths and looking 'strong' in the photo-ops to follow. But the all to convient 'war games' actually seem to have contributed to the confusion. The games were in part to practice intercepting planes aming at buildings, so the pilots and controllers were of course unsure what was happening and that slowed down the hoped for resonse.

In other words once again the * political cabal bit off more then it could chew and others suffer for their incompetence. And we still are.

[InvisibleTouch]

5. Closest answer for me is "Orchestrated"

But that's not exactly how I'd put it. They knew it was coming, and allowed it for political gain, but didn't actually engineer it. It was a lucky break for them. LIHOP, not MIHOP.

[Clinton Crusader]

6. These are the answers he gave me

Not what *I* would have chosen, but this is how he wanted it worded. I grant you there seems to be some overage, meaning some answers seep into another answer. Thanks, though.

[aquart]

7. Is he studying push polling?

Because the above is indeed a classic example. A+.

On edit: tell the dear boy that I find his questions offensive and racist. His tender belief that only rich white men are capable of any large, impressive action in this world really, really pisses me off. All the brownish people are mere pawns? Ask him if he needs to think that to make himself feel more secure and in control.

[Clinton Crusader]

9. No, it's a Poli Sci class

These choices try to represent any possible scenario that may have occurred.

[aquart]

12. No. They don't.

[Clinton Crusader]

13. OK, so what's missing?

[salin]

14. the attacks were real... the govt simply chose to ignore warnings

and thus no attempt to avert the attacks were made.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

21. Christ on a crutch.

[Clinton Crusader]

18. What part of it is racist????

The word PAWNS is used to describe the PLANES, not any people. Nothing is mentioned about 'all the brownish people'.

I have no idea why you're attacking so much. This is a poll for a 19 yr old kid, there is absolutely not one thing racist in any of it.

[pooja]

10. What kind of paper is this...It must be a grade school paper...

This will in no way shape or form allow you to figure out what the country is feeling about 9/11 and the story. #1. its a bad population, #2. you don't have a demographic of classification, #3. way, way too many choices for a poll.

It should be 1. Believe official line, 2. think the govt is involved somehow (cover-up to inclusion, 3. Much more worried about where the country is now because of 9/11 to bother with the details.

At this point.. I believe that it was a planned event and how much the US knew or not is irrelevant at this point. Most of the evidence has been destroyed... what has happened since Pearl Harbor... oh I mean 9/11, is insane.

[Clinton Crusader]

15. He just asked for a large group of people, not a cross section

Of the country. That's all. I'm only doing a favor for him, he's only 19.

[tpsbmam]

25. If I were he.....

and he intends to use these data, I'd make damn sure I'd make it clear in his paper that this is a biased sample and in no way scientific. I taught at the college level -- I'd lower his grade for using this kind of polling as anything other than a minor point of interest. Maybe he could get away with it better as a point of interest if he ran the same pole on a right-wing forum but even then, there's nothing scientific about any of it.

[pooja]

31. Hmm... 19, that would be college. This is a biased sample with

way too many options (varibles) and there are no controls... there is no way you will pull good statistacal analysis from this poll. This has got to be a very, very loose assignment. And why are you doing his work for him. If he needs to get info, he'd better figure out his population.. and start asking himself.

[itsmesgd]

11. I wanted to vote for two of the options

I think that there is more that we don't know and the buildings fell as a result of controlled demo...
I hope that having his respondents coming from DU will not harm his grade. RW'ing teachers tend to marginalize us as nuts and such.
What grade is your nephew in and does he appreciate his openminded family helping him with his project? I hope he will post his final results and report here as a followup.

[SidDithers]

16. I believe that 4 planes were hijacked...

and 3 were "successful" in hitting their targets. I believe that the Bush govt. had heard warnings but arrogantly dismissed them. When Sept 11 happened, the Bush admin had one hell of an "Oh Shit" moment, and then did the thing they do best - protect themselves politically and lie to cover-up their own unpreparedness. They then implicated Saddam to keep the focus off of their own incompetence, issued constant and ever more dire terror warnings to keep the American people afraid, and then attacked Iraq in order to appear to be doing something and to funnel billions of dollars from the US treasury into the pockets of their well-heeled political backers.

In short, they got caught with their pants down, lied to and manipulated the American people to absolve themselves of blame, and then took advantage of the attacks to further their own agenda.

Sid

[Greyhound]

17. Truth lies somewhere in all these. But the answer choices were not

very well distributed. Personally I don't buy the beginning to end conspiracy theory (the whole thing was orchestrated and carries out by (pick your favorite evil enterprise)), but do believe now, that the effectiveness of the attack was greatly enhanced by resistance to reality, utter incompetence, and naked opportunism.

For example, one of the most compelling and mostly ignored, theories behind the collapse of the WTC towers was the combination of the addition of powdered aluminum to the concrete used in the construction, combined with a later attempt to remove asbestos insulation with a chemical solution created, what amounts to thermite, inside the concrete surrounding the steel girders.

There is no doubt in my mind that, with a cynicism that would have made old Niccolo blush, they used this catastrophe to further their own, completely unrelated and anti-American, goals.
Here's to your impending 'A':toast:

[TransitJohn]

19. Choice #4: MIHOP

Just my 2 cents.

[MindPilot]

20. I voted: There's more we DON'T know than what we DO know

Fact is no full independent investigation has been done. Virtually everything we know is speculation, hearsay and partisan accusations.

[Bluerthanblue]

22. the secrecy of the * administration starting in jan. 01 only

encourages dis-trust. Add to that, the lies that have been exposed, and poorly addressed- or swept away as insignificant breed suspicion about every word that is spoken by this government.

YES- Clinton did lie on camera when he said "I did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky"
He also very sincerely and humbly APOLOGIZED to the American people, and to his family and staff that hat been hurt and betrayed by his lack of honesty.
It is important to compare the two administrations and the 'lies' told, and damage done IMO-
Clinton's 'sin'- was something that had NOThING to do with the security, and stability of the nation.

bush's lies have killed hundreds of thousands of human beings, caused a division among the American people, this nation and all the nations of the world, and put us in the horrible position of being an imperialist aggressor- something no nation should aspire to, or boast about.

bush talks so much about accountability, and responsibility- but that is all it is- LIP-SERVICE- empty words. He must be held accountable for once in his pitiful life. For the sake of humanity.

[wildbilln864]

23. with the term 9/11 in the title...

I expect this to be whisked to the dungeon very soon!

911 was an inside job! Their "new Pearl harbor event" used to catalyze the public.
Look here and read the document titled "Rebuilding America's Defenses"

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

24. I'm sure getting moved to the dungeon...

...will do wonders for the poll results. :eyes:

[wildbilln864]

27. Well, here's hoping it doesn't get moved for days!

Questioning is good!

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

28. Questioning is only good if the questions are good.

If the questions are stupid, then it's a waste of time.

[wildbilln864]

30. It's a good thing...

that you won't be deciding which questions are good IMO!

[BlackVelvet04]

26. I have a couple of BIG problems with the official account....

an intact passport of one of the terrorist is found in the rubble of the WTC??? Oh PLEASE.



I guess the biggest stumbling block for me though is the fact that the PNACers wanted a "Pearl Harbor type event"....they needed it as a matter of fact and damned if the universe didn't accommodate them. That's way too much of a coincidence for me.

So, that leaves me asking, who masterminded this event? How did they do it? We already know the why.

[wildbilln864]

29. not to mention the fact...

that Bush just sat there reading my pet goat and then went on for a photo op and a 20 minute meeting! It was public info where Bush would be long before that day so how'd the Secret Service know he was in no danger? Watch cspan's video called "911 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out"
It's a must see!

[wildbilln864]

32. here's a...

kick!

[Moderator]

33. locking

obvious attempt to smuggle 9/11 discussion into GD