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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:17 PM
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Imperialists Anonymous / the Anti-Imperialist League
From Howard Zinn:

You will hear a young fellow who is going off to Iraq. I remember hearing the same thing when a young fellow went off to Vietnam. And a reporter goes up to the young fellow and says, “You know, young man, you’re going off, and what are your thoughts and why are you doing this?” And the young man says, “I’m doing this for my country.” No, he’s not doing it for his country. And now, she’s not doing it for her country. The people who go off to war are not doing fighting for their country. No, they’re not doing their country any good. They’re not doing their families any good. They’re certainly not doing the people over there any good. But they’re not doing it for their country. They’re doing it for their government. They’re doing it for Bush. That would be a more accurate thing to say: “I’m going off to fight for George Bush. I’m going off to fight for Cheney. I’m going off to fight for Rumsfeld. I’m going off to fight for Halliburton.” Yeah, that would be telling the truth...

Don’t people join Alcoholics Anonymous so that they can stand up and be honest about themselves? Maybe we ought to have an organization called Imperialists Anonymous, you know, and have the leaders of the country get up there on national television and say, “Well, it’s time, you know -- time to tell the truth.” It would be -- I don’t expect it to happen, but it would be refreshing....

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/24/1442258



Mark Twain was the vice-president of the Anti-Imperialist League. Maybe it's time to get that going again.

Platform of the Anti-Imperialist League:

October, 1899

We hold that the policy known as imperialism is hostile to liberty and tends toward militarism, an evil from which it has been our glory to be free. We regret that it has become necessary in the land of Washington and Lincoln to reaffirm that all men, of whatever race or color, are entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. We maintain that governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed. We insist that the subjugation of any people is "criminal aggression" and open disloyalty to the distinctive principles of our Government....

We deny that the obligation of all citizens to support their Government in times of grave National peril applies to the present situation. If an Administration may with impunity ignore the issues upon which it was chosen, deliberately create a condition of war anywhere on the face of the globe, debauch the civil service for spoils to promote the adventure, organize a truth suppressing censorship and demand of all citizens a suspension of judgement and their unanimous support while it chooses to continue the fighting, representative government itself is imperiled.

* * *
We propose to contribute to the defeat of any person or party that stands for the forcible subjugation of any people. We shall oppose for reelection all who in the White House or in Congress betray American liberty in pursuit of un-American gains. We still hope that both of our great political parties will support and defend the Declaration of Independence in the closing campaign of the century.

We hold, with Abraham Lincoln, that "no man is good enough to govern another man without that mans consent. When the white man governs himself, that is self-government, but when he governs himself and also governs another man, that is more than self-government that is despotism." "Our reliance is in the love of liberty which God has planted in us. Our defense is in the spirit which prizes liberty as the heritage of all men in all lands. Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves, and under a just God cannot long retain it."

http://www.wwnorton.com/college/history/ralph/workbook/ralprs30a.htm
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:20 PM
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1. Nice post
K&R
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:37 PM
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2. Mark Twain is still relevant today!
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:55 PM
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3. I visited
his old Hartford house recently - and that was one of the things that stood to me. In his later years, esp. he was outspoken politically.

It is interesting thinking about him and Zinn - old guys speaking out - at the turn of their respective centuries. Sadly - things have not changed much as far as the US and imperialism.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 04:44 PM
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