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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:52 AM
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The BFEE inflicted hubris is manifesting in my dreams-
Edited on Wed Dec-28-05 02:53 AM by BeHereNow
Seriously DU, I think I need to go to the desert for a few
days and hang at a certain place I know.
No phones, no television and very little radio worth tuning in.
I think I have hit my waterloo for this year as far
as ingesting all the outrageous things happening
in the country once known as America.
( I call it Katrinica these days.)

My dreams over the last several nights have been
horrific!
Examples:
-Standing in the street with a friend as we watch
a chemical cloud come down the street killing everything
in its wake- we jump in his car and try to drive away as
we pass my dogs standing dead in their tracks.
Watching cars crash into each other, as their drivers
die, in the rear view mirror. Watching cars
crashing towards us as people die mid step
on the street as we pass...l wake up.

-Waiting for a train with my daughter.
She runs off to the platform gift store to buy me
a box a Valentine's day chocolates.
When she returns, we are approached by
another mother and daughter who are unusually
short. The mother asks me to give her daughter
the chocolates my daughter has just given me.
I start to give up the chocolates but then realize
this woman has been doing this to me for years
and I refuse. They become very angry and
curse or hex me in a language I don't understand
which REALLY pisses me off.
"Did you just put a curse on me!?!" I ask getting
more angry by the second.
"Three weeks! Three weeks and you'll find out!"
The mother croaks at me.
She is PURE evil and I feel frightened.

I wake up.

I attribute all of the disturbing dreams to some sort
of stress overload.
The years of BFEE abusing us ( the whole world) is overwhelming and I think
I am working the mounting frustration and fear out in my dreamtime.
Anyone else having similar nightmares?
Just curious and slightly apprehensive about
going to sleep tonight...
I haven't had nightmares since I was a KID!

BHN
:scared:
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 03:11 AM
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1. I can relate.
Can't remember my dreams as vividly as you apparently do but I'm feeling exhausted and perpetually creepage out. I've awoken from several dreams recently that, although I cant recall them for long, definitely are related to politics. Its as if things just aren't 'real' even when I'm awake any more. Going off to the desert sounds like a good idea. Whish I had a desert spot to go to! I should stop reading so much here, that's for sure.

BMU
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 03:18 AM
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2. I HAVE to self impose a break- the desert cabin FORCES the retreat
from the constant hammering of the BFEE induced overload.
No phones or television (or DU for that matter) is a good plan
right now.

My dreams have been so scary that they wake me.
Then I can't go back to sleep because I am so freaked
out about them. They are so vivid and terrifying and I think
at some point I realize I am dreaming and force
myself out of it.

I completely blame it on the years of
outrageous chaos inflicted by the BFEE neocons
and our complicit Congress.

Is there such a thing as PTSD that affects
the citizens living under a lawless corporate
dictatorship?
If so, I have it.
BHN
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 12:08 PM
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9. PTSD... hadn't thought of that, but yes, I think that is something to be
considered. We are all facing enormous and increasing stressors on many levels of our being.

The way I see it, we live in a world that is made up of layers within layers of "psychic" energy. The last few hundred years in Western Civilization has been a movement away from agrarian living, which was still relatively wedded to the natural cycles of the Earth, toward greater and greater concentrations of human life in "artificial" urban environments. Within the past century, electricity was added to the mix and all that has come as a result. The Twentieth century was, I believe, the most violent in the whole of human history. Millions upon millions of violent deaths that have left a great wound that has now festered into the current situation--threatening not only the survival of the United States, but the whole of humanity.

I have a young (white) friend who is quite imbedded in Native American tradition--he's actually held important positions in secret 'end of the age' ceremonies. He says the Hopies, for example, believe that a planetary cataclysm is now inevitable--that whatever time we may have had as human beings to positively effect and balance the planetary energies is now past. How we are inside, how we relate to ourselves and one another can effect the kind and severity of what is coming, but we are beyond preventing it from happening. --I don't know if you put any credence in such things. I don't buy them hook line and sinker but I do believe reality is far more complicated than we know in our states of ordinary consciousness.

The point here, I think, is that some of us (I'll include myself and you in this) are quite sensitive and more or less conscious of the violent vibrations that are growing day by day around us. Of course they effect our inner life, how could they not? Our dreams are one way this stuff comes forward into our awareness. The real test is what we DO with it, how we channel it. Does it make us more fearful or does it make us more resolute? How can we continue to be open to the here and now reality of our situation fully awake to the catastrophes that may lie directly in front of us? What do these awarenesses call from within us? For myself I can say it brings forth both good and bad--I see myself, really see who and what I am and it isn't all pretty. I see how even I (who likes to think of himself as non-violent if not a pacifist) begin to harbor hatred and rage that I imagine channeling into physical violence. And yet, in my better moments, I actually do not believe that violence can save us now.

This is getting long and I have to go to work but what I'm getting at is all this has to do with something inside ourselves. How can I be both accutely aware of what is going on around me and yet find a center within myself that is dynamicly at peace?

Let me know if any of this resonates with you.

Best,

BMU
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:34 PM
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15. Abosolutely resonates with me.
Edited on Wed Dec-28-05 07:34 PM by BeHereNow
I have been studying the Hopi and the Kogi prophecies
for a number of years.

The trick is definitely to stay at peace within.
The BFEE presents a new challenge, in our efforts to
do that, EVERY DAMNED day!

BHN
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 03:28 AM
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3. war of the worlds
I really thought the older version of the movie was better,
but your dream sounds exactly like scenes in that film.

I had a dream in a command and conquor simulation (PC video game)
I was flying in a helicopter over a battlefield command of air-cav (helicopters),
ground-gattling cannon emplacments, and bunkers. Well, the enemy had developed
this massive incinerator cannons that shoot like artillery, but move like humvees.
Well, these flexible artillery were able to, using computer pinpointing porgressively
erase all my battlefield emplacements unless the air-cav and short range air
support can keep the artillery off. WEll, as my aircraft are refueling, the
enemy launches a massive attack of incinerator artillery, and my entire division
is screaming in agony as they die on the ground beneath my helicopter.

The air command ultimately wins the day in my dream, but i am scarred by
the reality of this burning field of dying men, hundreds of invisible beneath
a fuel-air artillery-shell barrage of fire, and then their burning bodies
still moving whilst half charred on the ground.

Battlefield command video games can get a bit too real at times indeed. I
empathize with how the dreams frame an immaginary force and the damage it
can do, as if the reality shock of too-real a dream might ward off the
real event on some lucky planet.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 03:49 AM
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4. Carl Jung's Collective Consciousness?
Perhaps all the violent energy of the endless
war is manifesting in our collective consciousness?
I have never played one of those video games, but I would
think they, combined with the real world violence raging around
the planet now, thanks to the BFEE and Congress Critters feeding at the
military contractor payola trough, would contribute to such dream energy.
Your dream sounds horrific- much like my chemical cloud dream.
Hideous stuff- to us that is.
I'm sure our dreams would make the neocons wake up smiling.
BHN
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TeflonTalons Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 04:55 AM
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5. I understand how you feel....
But buck up--we've got to use our strength and stay strong. America is a great country; I think this next year is going to be better than ever! This Christmas was a really good one. I know it isn't always easy to see the glass as being half full, but that's where our personal power lays. Every bit of negativity and blaming others empties the glass; it's up to us to make sure that doesn't happen.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 09:53 AM
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7. Hi TeflonTalons!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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TeflonTalons Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 09:54 AM
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8. Thanks for the meet and greet!
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:26 PM
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12. Welcome to DU TT
I'm not so sure I agree with you about
next year being a good one...I think it's
going to be a tough one, given the
glimpses of the plans the power mad have
in store for the new year...(Iran and continued hegemony expansion)

I do agree with you about bucking up though and
realizing that my glass is very full, beautiful family
and inner circle of loved ones, two and four leggeds.

I have recently had to grapple with someone from
my past who has turned out to be an "soul vampire" as
I call them. I think that may have something to
do with the chocolate dream. In the dream,
I realized the person had been doing it
to me for years, which was the same realization
I had about the short woman in my dream.
And yes, I am angry about it.
In fact the person is a complete ass hole
and I need to realize that and release them completely.
BHN
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 05:21 AM
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6. Try relating it to personal things too, opportunities.
Dreams come as an opportunity for understanding I think and usually concern the inner psychological facts as they interact with the outer. Also, they're very personal so the only real interpreter of any dream is the dreamer. The first dream does sound like some sort of communal poison, the kind of lying and hypocrisy that is destroying real communal life and the good in everybody. There's the need to escape that. But how?

The second sounds more personal. A train station to me in dreams suggests "training" or preparing myself for something. Maybe it suggests something else to you (and your association would be the apt one). Your younger, more innocent and hopeful side, is trying to express love but is hindered from doing so by some other part of yourself, some feminine side that is like this woman (demanding the love energies for her own use). This side of yourself (maybe inherited from a parent or friend, maybe just a recurring ill mood, maybe just the ego side which everybody has to contend with) is taking the good and misusing it, has been doing it "for years."

If you can identify what it is you said or did the previous day or so, maybe you could get a bead on this side of yourself and keep her from stealing your love energies. Your own interpretation is the only one that really matters.

It makes me think of my own trying to handle the negative things I feel about the present admin and the people who are running it and yet not becoming negative in my own inner self. It's very difficult for me and I suspect for many others as well. What helps me is to try to remember that it's not any group or "America" in general that is responsible for this mess and the poison that is everywhere now. "America" is not the govt and especially not this present group of banditos and white collar criminals. The American people are what they always have been. They aren't stupid; they're just disenfranchised at the moment due to the electronic voting machines and other factors. I have to wrestle with my own negativity in other words.

Thanks for telling the dreams.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:31 PM
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14. Thanks for the thoughtful analysis!
I made it a point to look up some of the
images in my FAVORITE dream symbol book-
Betty Bethards.
All of it makes a lot more sense to me and her
translations are very nearly your own as far
as the disturbing aspects being a window of
opportunity.

I think the poison cloud dream was very much
influenced by the overwhelming onslaught of
the BFEE. We are all surrounded by the
fall out of the neocon's poison.
I want to escape and I think we are
all aware that there is no where to escape to.

Bastards- each and everyone of them.
BHN
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 12:12 PM
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10. Seriously, if you are having such vivid dreams, it could be a
hormone imbalance. Pregnant females as well as premenopausal and menopausal women can have very vivid dreams. Not to say that the BFEE isn't a terrific source for nightmares, just that when I read your post, it reminded me of a few whoppers I have had.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:19 PM
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11. Hormones...indeed.
Edited on Wed Dec-28-05 07:19 PM by BeHereNow
Iv'e always had vivid dreams-I am a lucid dreamer and
have kept a dream journal since I was twelve.
I'll be 46 in a week or so, so that could be part of it.
Hormone changes for sure.
The nightmare qualities are what are unusual.
Those I think I am going to attribute to the
BFEE and the hell on earth they have created.
LOL,
BHN
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:28 PM
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13. the desert sounds good
"you can remember your name"...

If that doesn't work, medicate..;)
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:38 PM
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16. LOL! Yes, I have been considering that option...
Very tempting to medicate.
I have some pain killers left from my broken arm last summer
but so far, I haven't given in to temptation.
I'd rather go to the desert for my birthday this weekend!
It's SO beautiful out there.
I would live there if I could find a job that paid more than
minimum wage.
For now, I will just have to settle
for the weekend retreats.
BHN
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