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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 12:28 PM
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It's A Complicated 'Civil War'
There are many factors involved in what is now tagged as a 'Civil War' but to only label it as such leaves out what some of those factors might be, at least in the MSM. Are there contributing elements which may benefit from such chaos? Could certain forces be in play that purposefully have incited years (ages) old hostilities? Cui bono?

The Independent UK 04/29/06


The Americans, my interlocutor suspected, are trying to provoke an Iraqi civil war so that Sunni Muslim insurgents spend their energies killing their Shia co-religionists rather than soldiers of the Western occupation forces One young Iraqi man told us that he was trained by the Americans as a policeman in Baghdad and he spent 70 per cent of his time learning to drive and 30 per cent in weapons training. They said to him: Come back in a week. When he went back, they gave him a mobile phone and told him to drive into a crowded area near a mosque and phone them. He waited in the car but couldnt get the right mobile signal. So he got out of the car to where he received a better signal. Then his car blew up.

Impossible, I think to myself. But then I remember how many times Iraqis in Baghdad have told me similar stories.

There was another man, trained by the Americans for the police. He too was given a mobile and told to drive to an area where there was a crowd - maybe a protest - and to call them and tell them what was happening. Again, his new mobile was not working. So he went to a landline phone and called the Americans and told them: Here I am, in the place you sent me and I can tell you whats happening here. And at that moment there was a big explosion in his car.

According to Los Angeles Times military analyst William Arkin, writing Oct. 27, 2002, Rumsfeld set out to create a secret army, a super-Intelligence Support Activity network that would bring together CIA and military covert action, information warfare, intelligence, and cover and deception, to stir the pot of spiraling global violence.

According to a classified document prepared for Rumsfeld by his Defense Science Board, the new organizationthe Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group (P2OG)would actually carry out secret missions designed to provoke terrorist groups into committing violent acts. The P2OG, a 100-member, so-called counter-terrorist organization with a $100-million-a-year budget, would ostensibly target terrorist leaders, but according to P2OG documents procured by Arkin, would in fact carry out missions designed to stimulate reactions among terrorist groupswhich, according to the Defense Secretarys logic, would subsequently expose them to counter-attack by the good guys. In other words, the plan is to execute secret military operations (assassinations, sabotage, deception) which would intentionally result in terrorist attacks on innocent people, including Americansessentially, to combat terrorism by causing it!

Shia cleric blames US forces for Sunday massacre
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BAGHDAD: Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr held the US forces responsible on Monday for the bombings in Sadr city, one of the poorest districts of Baghdad, that claimed over 40 lives.

"I hold the occupying forces responsible for orchestrating this event," Muqtada told a press conference in Najaf.

He said terrorists carried out the bombing "under US air cover" arguing that the halt of telephone connections before the incident was proof of the cooperation between the terrorists and the occupier to "destabilise the security of this Shia region.


Two car bombs and mortars in Sadr City late on Sunday killed some 40 and injured over 90 people.
Muqtada also mocked a statement of US Defence Secretary Ronald Rumsfeld, in which he said that US forces would not interfere if a civil war broke out in Iraq.

According to Robert Young Peltons upcoming book Licensed To Kill: Hired Guns in the War on Terror, there are now over 70,000 armed men working as security contractors in Iraq.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 12:39 PM
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1. a statement of US Defence Secretary Ronald Rumsfeld
...a statement of US Defence Secretary Ronald Rumsfeld, in which he said that US forces would not interfere if a civil war broke out in Iraq.

the "exit" plan? start a civil war, then back out?
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 12:41 PM
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2. black is white, up is down, war is peace....
We cannot believe ANYTHING our government tells us anymore.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 12:57 PM
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3. The Salvadorization of Iraq?
The Salvadorization of Iraq?

The counterinsurgency is increasingly being waged by former elite troops of Saddam Husseins army, with guidance from a U.S. adviser who in the 80s commanded the Special Forces in El Salvador. Its not a pretty campaign.

In a country of tough guys, Adnan Thabit may be the toughest of all. He was both a general and a death-row prisoner under Saddam Hussein. He favors leather jackets no matter the weather, his left index finger extends only to the knuckle (the rest was sliced off in combat) and he responds to requests from supplicants with grunts that mean yes or no. Occasionally, a humble aide approaches to spray perfume on his hands, which he wipes over his rugged face.

General Adnan, as he is known, is the leader of Iraqs most fearsome counterinsurgency force. It is called the Special Police Commandos and consists of about 5,000 troops. They have fought the insurgents in Mosul, Ramadi, Baghdad and Samarra. It was in Samarra, 60 miles north of Baghdad in the heart of the Sunni Triangle, where, in early March, I spent a week with Adnan, himself a Sunni, and two battalions of his commandos. Samarra is Adnans hometown, and he had come to retake it. As the offensive to drive out the insurgents got under way, the only area securely under Adnans control was a barricaded enclave around the town hall, where he grimly presided over matters of war and peace, but mostly war, chain-smoking Royal cigarettes at a raised desk in the mayors office. With a jowly face set in a permanent scowl, Adnan is perfectly suited to the grim realities of Iraq, and he knows it. When an admiring American colonel compared him to Marlon Brando in The Godfather, Adnan took it as a compliment and smiled.

Early one evening, I was sitting in his office when an officer entered with a stomp of his heel an Iraqi salute of sorts. He reported to Adnan that a rebel weapons cache had been discovered, and Adnan congratulated him but issued a warning. If even one AK-47 is stolen, he said, I will kill you. After a pause, he smiled and refined the threat. No, he said, I will kill your and he used a coarse word that referred to the officers most private body part. There was nervous laughter. Everyone seemed certain that not a single gun, or single anything, would go missing.
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