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Grebrook (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 05:48 PM Original message |
Final House Results, Dems 57%-41% popular vote, (1994: Reps 52%-44%) They really fucked us over |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. The redistricting is up the states |
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Grebrook (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 05:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Right, but that's not a solution, cause then we'll be locked in an eternal partisan gerrymandering |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 05:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. It should be left up to the states |
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USA_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 06:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. True. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. If that's true then the exit poll UNDERstated the Democratic vote |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. One congress critter per 2.1 million people.... |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. Bah! That would mean under 150 representatives! |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-27-06 01:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
50. Wyoming 500K people in the whole state 2 senators & 1 congresscritter |
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liberaldemocrat7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-27-06 06:47 AM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Liberals need to move to those states. |
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9119495 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-27-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
66. Thank you. I've been saying this for years. |
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mom cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
7. TIA has analyzed the resukts and concurs that the margin of |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 06:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. The pre-election polls were very consistent with the final results |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
32. hahaha! realpolitics.com is David Brooks' and Brit Hume's CHOICE for polling news! |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. Ah... so the ole "if my enemy likes it, I should hate it" argument |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-27-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #49 |
61. no, it's BIASED information. there's plenty of non-biased data our there, how come |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. so like, you're kidding... right... |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:52 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. YOU are kidding right? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-27-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
60. if Brit Hume endorses RealPolitcs.com, then i have no use for it |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-27-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Do you even know what rcp has to do with the polls they post? nt |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. TruthIsAll is full of it. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. "poll results accurate" according to... link or reference please... |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-28-06 12:45 AM Response to Reply #35 |
73. Every significant election forecaster out there. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-28-06 12:37 AM Response to Reply #13 |
70. And we can just take YOUR word for that, right? |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-28-06 12:47 AM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Go read data yourself. I'm not going to dictate factual information. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-28-06 12:59 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. I NEVER expected you to. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-28-06 06:39 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Okay. Take a look. |
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Dick Diver (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 07:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. TIA and the "journalist" autorank also |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
38. wow dick, not often our autorank is described with such derision |
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Dick Diver (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-27-06 07:40 AM Response to Reply #38 |
59. I think real journalists rely upon primary sources, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-28-06 08:45 AM Response to Reply #59 |
81. Real journalists like Judith Miller? Oh puh-lease. |
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Dick Diver (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-28-06 04:14 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Who mentioned Judith Miller? I didn't. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 09:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. TIA's shtick is getting old. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. 391 posts worth TIA getting old?? since NOV of this year... 3 WEEKS AGO??? |
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Gelliebeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-27-06 03:03 AM Response to Reply #28 |
56. ahh but there is the rub... |
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buddysmellgood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. At least TIA backs up his post with facts. You are spewing crap. Show the "spot on" |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. i love that story! "gee honey... didn't you vote for yourself?" |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-28-06 08:40 AM Response to Reply #36 |
80. Sorry, But That's Untrue |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-27-06 01:30 AM Response to Reply #23 |
51. No evidence of fraud? Might want to ask Florida about that. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-27-06 01:43 AM Response to Reply #23 |
52. Kelly Rupert you are obviously not familiar with the field if you think TIA's the only one |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-27-06 06:55 AM Response to Reply #23 |
58. Zero evidence of fraud? |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-28-06 12:42 AM Response to Reply #23 |
71. You've been here 3 weeks. Hardly qualifies you to say who is "getting old". |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-27-06 02:15 AM Response to Reply #7 |
54. you understand that the OP is not about election fraud, right? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-27-06 03:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
67. TIA is full of it. Stop thread-jacking (nt) |
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StatGirl (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
8. We need a constitutional amendment, or a movement . . . |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. That, I agree with. (nt) |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
9. You gotta remember that the Republicans had a huge redistricting campaign going on |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
10. that needs a source |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 07:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. As of 11-11, Huffington post had it at 55-42 |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
11. But shoot! How is THAT for a mandate? |
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Stevepol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Kerry won by 3%; Bush didn't win by the 2 1/2 % claimed. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 09:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Yes, but when you consider the votes that were actually cast by real people |
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buddysmellgood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. Are you real? |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-28-06 12:48 AM Response to Reply #39 |
76. Psst! |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. WOW... we must take your word for it then. all settled! |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. LOL |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-28-06 12:46 AM Response to Reply #24 |
74. So, you are claiming that DEMS committed all the Election Fraud? |
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Dick Diver (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
17. Wait a minute here... |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. TIA Believes That the Exit Polls are Correct |
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Grebrook (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 09:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. That's also from a week ago, the results are still coming in, I believe |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 09:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. where do your numbers come from? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. geez -- maybe just maybe TIA's on to something... |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-28-06 12:50 AM Response to Reply #30 |
77. You can be a true believer and still be a crank. |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
19. There should be an algorithim developed by the NIST |
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Turn CO Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
21. Many districts are gerrymandered for a 5% advantage to |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
25. Some of this is NOT gerrymandering |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. if SOME is not gerrymandering, then MOST is... is it not? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. I don't have any idea what percent is each way |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. here's what Gerrymandering is: incumbent free-for-all |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. That would be true if the cities and suburbs were the same size. But they're not. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. gerrymandering favors INCUMBENTS and BIG MONEY |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:47 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Manhattan voted over 80% for Kerry |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
29. But still, look at this picture: it is a thing of beauty |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. No kidding Bucky.. some people would whine no matter what.. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-27-06 01:49 AM Response to Reply #34 |
53. really? I'd like to be your employer, after shorting your paycheck |
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Grebrook (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-27-06 02:57 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Yeah, plus, since 2008 can't possibly be as good for us as 2006, we might lose seats simply |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-27-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. you say that so well! |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-26-06 10:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. that map illustrates gerrymandering... so yeah, we won DESPITE it |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-28-06 12:43 AM Response to Reply #42 |
72. yeah, we Won running uphill while opponents ran a flat course, SO... |
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9119495 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-27-06 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
64. I would INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE |
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Grebrook (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-28-06 12:21 AM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Um, isn't that actually how it works? 1 rep for every 600,000 people? |
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9119495 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-28-06 08:32 AM Response to Reply #68 |
79. No, the number of representatives have been capped at 435 |
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Tony Soprano (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-27-06 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
65. MANDATE!!!! |
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TexasLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-28-06 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
69. kick |
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