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Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:53 PM
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K.O. encourages Michael Savage to "cut to the chase and come out of the closet"....
...tonight's "Worst Person of the World" on "Countdown."

:patriot:
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:07 PM
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1. I was thinking the same thing a couple of days ago....n/t
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:09 PM
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2. Hairylipped mankisses; Michael Savage kicks one leg up behind him
:woohoo: :applause: :popcorn:
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:19 PM
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3. Oh god nooooooooooooooo! First Foley, then Haggard......
Gaydom cannot survive another defection from the closet by right-wing, self-loathing Republican nutjobs. Stay in the closet and SUFFOCATE, Michael Weiner.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:28 PM
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4. I hear that he used to go down south with some famous hipster
author and get high and doink boys. I can't remember the hipster but he was some dweeb dude from the fifties. He had a correspondence with him and they met up in like the Dominican Republic to do little boys, the fascists. I think he's an open secret closet case in the industry. Its on the DU in the archives some place.
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delete_bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:55 PM
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6. I recall mention of photographs of the Savage Weenie
swimming naked with Allen Ginsberg back in the 70's. It's all about ego/money for him, he'll walk whichever side of the street brings him fame/fortune.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:48 PM
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7. I'm convinced Weiner and Ginsberg were lovers
There was the skinny-dipping together, and of course, the letters:



One of his books was a work of fiction called Vital Signs, in which the protagonist wrestles with his attraction to masculine beauty. "I choose to override my desires for men when they swell in me", Weiner wrote, "waiting out the passions like a storm, below decks." At one time, Weiner self-published his own zines featuring inflammatory pieces about gay sex at San Francisco bathhouses. He was apparently opposed to such things. But he was a friend of beat poet Allen Ginsberg, the very, very out gay author of Howl. In a 1970 letter to Ginsberg, someone signed Michael Weiner described a semi-erotic encounter he had had with another man in Fiji. Weiner says he did not write the letter, though the return address was in Honolulu, where Weiner resided at the time. Savage now describes his one-time friend Ginsberg as "latrine slime," and says that upon hearing of his death, "I clasped my hands together and prayed to God. I said, 'Thank you, God, for answering my prayers. One of the blights of the human race is gone.'"

http://www.nndb.com/people/588/000044456 /

Radar magazine reports that, back when he was a botanist known as Michael Weiner, the syndicated radio host was friendly with poet Allen Ginsberg. According to the mag, on March 8, 1970, Savage wrote to Ginsberg, who visited him in Fiji:

"After speaking to you on the phone ... I walked downstairs to the school courtyard, where a little-known black brother looks at me, takes my hand gently, we do some old-world lower East Side finger tricks, and he peacefully kisses the back of my hand - I do the same for his hand. I told him about our brief talk and he says, 'I must have felt the vibes.'"

Radar says the letter can be found among Ginsberg's collected papers at Stanford University. Ginsberg, who belonged to the North American Man/Boy Love Association, wouldn't seem to be on the "buddy list" of Savage, who once said, "The gay and lesbian mafia wants our children!"

But then, Radar reports, Savage's "thinly disguised confessional" novel, "Vital Signs," did have a protagonist who admitted he was drawn to "masculine beauty," saying, "I choose to override my desires for men when they swell in me."

Savage, who is married, calls the Radar story a "smear campaign" launched by "gay fascists."

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/90478p-82252c.ht...

Hawaii was also a crossroads of a different sort. Ever fascinated by the counterculture, he began writing letters to Allen Ginsberg, whom he had met briefly while living in New York, cajoling the poet to come to Hawaii for a reading. Weiner offered to make all the arrangements. The correspondence, consisting of ten letters and three postcards and preserved as part of the Ginsberg collection at Stanford University spans four years. In 1973, after having passed on Weiner's invitations several times, Ginsberg, along with friend and fellow poet Lawrence Ferlinghetti, accepted his offer and stopped over in Hawaii on his way to Australia.

The next year, with his wife and young son in tow, Weiner arrived in the Bay Area to take up doctoral studies at UC Berkeley. Having hosted Ginsberg and Ferlinghetti in Hawaii, he enjoyed instant credibility as he burrowed in among the bohemians of the North Beach cafe scene. "He went around showing people a photo of him and Ginsberg swimming in the buff in Hawaii," says Stephen Schwartz, an ex-Chronicle reporter and former leftist turned conservative scholar, who was a North Beach regular at the time. "It was like his calling card. He traded on his association with Allen to get a toehold."

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/Issues/2006-07-19/news/fe...

March 8, 1970
Dear Allen:
After speaking to you on the phone about how nice the black-white thing is in mountain villages in Fiji, I walked downstairs to the school courtyard, where a littleknown black brother looks at me, takes my hand gently, we do some oldworld Lower East Side finger tricks, and he peacefully kisses the back of my hand I do the same for his hand. I told him about our brief talk, and he says, "I must have felt the vibes."
Michael Weiner
Botany Dept.
University of Hawaii
Honolulu, HI

http://christianparty.net/michaelsavage.htm
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:58 PM
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9. Allan Ginsberg? The one cool thing in his life, and he's ashamed of it!
What a mess of a guy!
gay fascists? :rotfl:
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 12:03 AM
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10. There's more in the letters
I've seen copies of them, and for the life of me, I can't find them.

I'm gonna unearth them and archive them. Really outrageous stuff, considering what Savage is all about today.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 12:41 AM
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11. Again, what messed up individual wouldn't hold a relationship with Ginsberg
as something to relish/brag about?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:48 PM
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5. One nitpick.. Keith needs to start calling him Michael Savage Weiner

instead of Michael Weiner Savage..

Savage weiner just sounds soooo much better
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Betty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:54 PM
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8. the more virulently anti gay they are in public
the more they have to hide, I believe.
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