Calling Dr. Dean - your money raising efforts just took a major hit

[Ugnmoose]

Mind you I have alot of respect for Howard Dean and I think his head and heart are in the progressive movement to reform the Party. But I like alot of you are not going to give money to the DNC to support the re-election efforts of those who betray us. Sadly, money is what counts the most to these bastards. So let's them tell that they ain't getting any of ours.

[LSK]

1. expect a thank you letter from Ken Mehlman any day now n/t

[FormerRepublican]

8. Mehlman already got his thank you when the Dems voted for cloture.

You don't get it. With the Dems voting for the 'pukes, they might as well BE 'pukes. They are Dem in name only - why give them money?

[Straight Shooter]

2. I will give money to individual campaigns, whatever I can.

I will also give money to whomever opposes Lieberman. He is an albatross around our necks.

[Ugnmoose]

4. I think Holy Joe is in trouble

The folks in Connecticut are too smart to have the wool pulled over their eyes.

[truebrit71]

29. I do hope so. His continued pretense as a "democrat" has been shattered...

..today...

[dogday]

35. And to think he could of been our VP

I mean you have to give pause to that. What was Gore thinking?

[mtnester]

32. Right here - this is his potential opponent

Let him know!

http://www.nedlamont.com/

[Justpat]

34. I pledged money to Lamont's campaign.

Lieberman needs to be crushed by a real Democrat in this election.

[Debi]

3. What? And give the very people who oppose Dean another reason

to say he's bad for the Party? You don't think that the cowards who couldn't even stand up for their party today aren't dissing Dean for not keeping enough money in the bank?

The very opposite should be happening.

Dean should be getting TONS of money ($25.00 for the 25 who have a spine)to elect DEMOCRATS to Congress so we NEVER have to face a situation like this again.

Phase out the DINOs, get rid of the whimps and put Progressive Democrats who would NEVER let their fellow Party members down.

Give to the DNC right now, don't punish Howard Dean for the cowardice of others!

[Ugnmoose]

6. Better to give to DFA

The DNC is a big black hole. You want to make sure that your money is going to go only to progressive candidates and those who support the core belief of Democrats.

[Debi]

9. Why punish Governor Dean?

Why give the naysayers one more reason to go after him? Send your contribution with a note telling him that you are supporting the 25 who stood up!

[jillan]

7. no - I respectfully disagree.

Since Reid won't listen to us.
maybe he'll listen to Dean.

And how are we going to communicate that to Dean?
You got it.

We need to send a strong message to this party.

Stand together - or you are done.

[Debi]

13. I just see this as a punishment of Dean for the deeds of the cowards

in the Senate. Don't give $$ to the DSCC - punish THEM. But Dean is working for us, Dean is against Alito, Dean needs to get Democrats elected.

[stlsaxman]

5. Get a list of the cloture voting Dem's and send contributions to their

primary opponents. Tell Dean that is what you're doing. This is what Dean's been doing lately- working from the grass-roots up.

In fact- why don't you seek the nomination for the seat yourself? Dean would LOVE that!

[Talismom]

10. I plan to do exactly what you opened this post with--I'll be writing to

all the Aye voting dems over the next week to tell them my plan and what I think of them. Then I will be looking for primary opponents in each state to send my bucks to. I think Dean will be very much in favor of this action--btw, his book about how to take the country back is great!

[madfloridian]

11. Dean supported the efforts of Kerry and Kennedy to filibuster.

Go ahead punish them...Good job.

[Debi]

I understand not giving money to the DSCC but why punish the National

Party?

WTF? I don't get it.

:hi: good to see you fighting!

[napi21]

12. How the hell did this become Dean's fault?????

Dems have always had trouble raising $$ BECAUSE the wealthy people are ALL PUBS!!!!!

I haven't seen any list of Senators who voted YES, but ALL of THEM were elected BY YOUY! before Dean has been Party Chairman! If you want to fault someone, maybe we should fault OURSELVES!

The people who are really disappointing you are the Senators who voted YES! Jump on THEM!

[Dr Fate]

16. well, Dean could set up a separate fund for pro-DEM base candidates...

...because otherwise, I cant take the chance.

Nothing against Dean, but I can't take the chance that he might distribute money to the fake Democrats.

He should have known that this would effect fund raising, so he should have gone on TV and spoken out more.

[ScreamingMeemie]

23. DFA....his org, now headed by his brother, does just that.

To put this on Dean is to be obtuse. I will still donate when he speaks. He got the DNC Chair without the help of the DLC. If you've forgotten that...then I don't know what else to say to you.

[Dr Fate]

26. I've forgotten nothing. It's unfortunate that Dean got caught up in this.

I'll look into the DFA and others and see what is out there.

I'll also concentrate my support for specific DEMs who listen to the base.

If the fake Democrats have an adverse affect on the DNC, then he can report the falling fund-raising numbers they caused to his bosses or who-ever...

[ScreamingMeemie]

33. Then I guess I will double my donation whenever the good Dr.

gives a speech that speaks for me. :(

[ScreamingMeemie]

20. Thank you! And it's because some love to blame Gov Dean for

everything. Remember, he WAS the kitten fetus eating candidate. ;hi:

[hvn_nbr_2]

24. I didn't read the OP as *blaming* Dean.

Dean just happens to be sitting in the seat that receives the message. And the OP is correct that Dean's fundraising efforts are going to take a hit. It's not a judgment of Dean.

[mmonk]

14. Huge hit. From now on, I just give to individual campaigns.

[Dr Fate]

15. I cant take the chance that the DNC will distribute my $ to boot-lickers.

I love Dean, and this really sucks, but now I'm only sending money to SPECIFIC Democrats who I know to be pro-DEM base & anti-Bush.

If Dean wants to set up a separate DNC fund for pro-base DEMS, then we will talk.

[Ugnmoose]

18. I agree 100%

Let's not be anti Dean, just anti establishment. Dean is trying to reform the Party from within and the only way he could do this was by assuming the reins as chair of the Party. So let's make it clear that we will openly support those progressives who share our values.

[hedda_foil]

17. The DNC doesn't do Congressional campaigns.

It would be great if Dean had that power, but he doesn't. That belongs to the DSCC and the DCCC. Until Dean came along, all the national party did was raise money from big donors for presidential elections. They totally ignored building local and state parties. They had nothing to do with other campaigns and elections ... just the presidency. Now, Dean is building state parties by funding some staff for them again, and most of those newly empowered state parties are going to be in his political debt over time. It's a hugely long haul to drag this party back from DLC irrelevancy. Please don't blame the guy who's working for US!

[yurbud]

19. send him a letter asking he base the percentage of cash they

get on voting record

[johnfunk]

21. DON'T BLAME DEAN! He was working AGAINST Alito...

... but in his capacity as party chair can't do much about Senate reprobates.

The REAL problem is with a small sewing circle of arrogant Senate Democrats who have never heard of this thing called party discipline.

I've taken names, and come campaign time I will be kicking ass -- by supporting the anti-cloture Senatoprs and extending a middle digit to the rest -- and money to worthy primary challengers.

[LittleClarkie]

22. Oh right. Hey Dr. Dean. I love ya. (pimpslap)

But fuck you. But I respect you. A lot. But I'm going to sabotage your efforts now. Thanks for working so hard and supporting the fillibuster (pimpslap) but I hope your efforts wither and die.

Yeah, a permanent minority. That'll show them traitor Dems.

I could fight to replace the centrists instead. But I won't. I'll just cut your funding and make you look like an ass come election time when we lose big in the Senate and House. But remember, I still respect you (pimpslap.)

[Dr Fate]

25. One key is NO money w/o a letter or call.

Personally, I'm not giving money to the DNC, because I know some will go to anti-DEM base Democrats.

But- I'll meet you half way and say that if you DO donate to the DNC, you should give them a specific reason why (A particular Dean TV appearance or speech, "fighting moment" etc)

ALWAYS include a letter or call with your donation.

Dean should consider a separate DNC fund for pro-base DEMS, which is the only fund a could give to now. Perhaps I should look closer tot he DFA

My money goes to Kerry and real DEMS only.

I was a fundraiser for the DNC during '04 and raised somewhere around $30,000-$35,000 bucks for them.

I am looking at this in a positive way- the filibuster has provided me with a point of reference as to how to direct positive energies.

You wont see those mean posts from me anymore- my "Dry Powder" joke thread was the last of them.

[LittleClarkie]

27. I know what you're saying, believe me. But I think Dean is caught

in the middle of something that isn't his doing. If only there was a way to give to just him. Maybe there's a way to find out what he's doing in individual states and supporting those efforts somehow without supporting the DNC as a whole.

Hmm. I wonder if that's possible. Find good state-level organizations and support them. Or DFA. Or PDA.

Eh, don't mind me. I've got alot of nervous energy to burn off right now. Maybe I oughta join Skinner in that beer, and stop taking it out on the board.

[Dr Fate]

31. I wont discourage anyone from giving the DNC support.

I just know what I will do.

Cheers!

[depakid]

28. I won't be sending any money OR efforts that direction

and I'm obviously not alone. I'll put my efforts into things that count.

There needs to be some accountability here.

[Norwood]

30. Its not Deans fault at all but....

I just cannot in good conscience send money to anyone except the individual candidates. I don't want a red cent going to any of these so called that voted for cloture or anyone like them.

I love Dean, he's a great leader and a Democrat with balls of steel but hes gonna take a hit because of this vote.