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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:38 PM
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Regarding Carville and dirty politics...
I just fiinished watching Our Brand is Crisis, a documentary about the 2002 Bolivian elections. The firm Greenberg Carville Shrum (GCS) was hired by Goni (running against Evo Morales).

At the end of the documentary, the trailer said that GCS has done work around the world, including Mexico, Venezuela, South Africa, Western Europe, and the U.S.

My question is:
Is anyone familiar with any of the details of these other elections? Which candidates hired them? Was it consistently the pro-globalization, pro-corporate point of view?

I did a short google search, but did not answer this question. Thank you.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:39 PM
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1. Kick.
I would be interested to know too. Bookmarked.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:44 PM
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2. Hmmmm, that's very interesting.
I would like to know more too.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:45 PM
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3. Carville was working against Chavez in Venezuela. article.
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 10:49 PM by madfloridian
I have this from a long time ago...source was the WSJ...link may be dead, but most of it is within the 4 paragraphs.
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Venezuelan Opposition Puts American
In War Room to Help Oust President
By MARC LIFSHER
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

CARACAS, Venezuela -- It's the economia, stupid.

Venezuela's embattled private sector is banking on the colorful U.S.
political consultant James Carville to help oust leftist President Hugo
Chavez. The hire may herald an effort by the anti-Chavistas to focus more on
the issues than on personality. According to several individuals with
knowledge of the matter, a group of business executives contracted with Mr.
Carville this year to craft a strategy that will unify a fractious and
frustrated Chavez opposition and resonate with voters in a possiblerecall
referendum. The executives are hoping that Mr. Carville -- the folksy,
59-year-old Democratic Party consultant from Louisiana known as the Ragin'
Cajun -- will push a variation of his "It's the economy, stupid" theme that
helped propel Bill Clinton to victory in 1992.

But analysts say Mr. Carville and his clients face a formidable challenge.
Mr. Chavez has strengthened his hand since surviving a military coup in
April 2002 and defeating a recent two-month national strike led by oil
executives, labor leaders and business organizations. Despite a deepening
economic recession, the business elite here and its middle-class allies are finding it hard to persuade core Chavez supporters in urban slums and the countryside that the president isn't delivering on his populist promises. They have another hurdle to jump in blaming all the country's economic problems on Mr. Chavez after their own ill-starred strike accelerated the economy's slide.

"These business owners are arrogant. They can bring Carville or anyone else,
but they don't stop to understand what everyday life is like for the
people," says Patricia Marquez, an anthropologist and academic director of
the Institute for Higher Administrative Studies, a graduate school of
management here in the capital.


http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB105355660414895300-search,00.html?collection=wsjie%2F30day&vql_string=carville%3Cin%3E%28article%2Dbody%29

On Edit...found it at another source.
http://www.casavenezuela.org/05persp/articles/economia_stupid.html


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:47 PM
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4. Yes, link leads to paid stuff now.
I guess one could search on names or sentences.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:48 PM
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5. Excellent...just as i suspected.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:51 PM
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6. Wow, so, he is a NEO-CON!!!
Baster!
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 10:53 PM
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7. Carville is a political whore. At least his wife is honest about her whoredom...
This cinches it for me. Carville is a piece of sh*t who should be shunned by Dems for his Lieberselfish-like ways.

J
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:00 PM
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8. K&R Bookmarking, too.
We need to drag this out every single time he makes a headline.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:00 PM
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9. Isn't his firm doing a lot of Democratic polling?
"Mr. Carville didn't respond to several telephone and e-mail requests for comment. He frequently consults abroad, in 1999 working on the successful Israeli prime ministerial campaign of Ehud Barak, along with Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research, a Washington polling firm that works closely with him. According to his Web site, since 1992 he has consulted for political candidates in at least 10 foreign countries in Latin America, Canada, Europe and the Middle East.

Greenberg says it has been conducting surveys for a group of businessmen coordinated by Marcel Granier, a television broadcast executive and an important leader of the Venezuelan opposition. "We have an association with Mr. Carville going back to the Clinton days," says Mark Feierstein, a Greenberg associate vice president, who has been making regular consulting trips to Venezuela."

I think Dean at the DNC pretty exclusively uses Cornell Belcher from Brilliant Corners.

And it is far more than Carville messing around down in those countries.


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:22 PM
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10. This paragraph is amazing...even gives talking points..
"Mr. Carville's strategy, according to a U.S. business executive who talked to him, is three-pronged: focus on the economy, hammer away at the need for the referendum and avoid personal attacks on the charismatic and politically agile Mr. Chavez. "The message should be that everything is a wreck," says the executive. "Don't engage Chavez. Engage the facts.""

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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 11:34 PM
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11. Bet I could watch two years of TV and not have learned this.
DU is worth every donation. I am now sooo curious about Carville and his habits.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 06:15 AM
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12. "Corporatarville" keeps getting exposed more!
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 07:40 AM
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13. Look At This From '99...Carville Teamed With Finklestein...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/special_report/1999/05/99/israel_elections/341162.stm

Arthur Finkelstein is one of America's most infamous - and successful - spin doctors.

For 20 years, he has helped some of the country's staunchest conservatives such as New York Governor George Pataki, North Carolina Sen Jesse Helms and President Ronald Reagan, win and keep power

But Mr Finkelstein's success is not limited to the American political scene. He is also credited with winning the 1996 election for Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu. And that is why his name is so well-known in Israel - if not entirely revered.

Until now, the Americanisation of Israeli politics has always referred to the US government's influence over Israel's foreign policy. But Arthur Finkelstein's shadowy three-year presence coupled with the arrival of the flamboyant James Carville, Stanley Greenberg and Bob Shrum, who ran Bill Clinton's two successful presidential campaigns, has given the phrase a new twist.


For those not onto Mr. Finkelstein, he's one of the nastiest, most stealth GOOP operatives. He is heavily involved with the "Mighty Wurlitzer" spin machine here, including Morton Blackwell's "journalist" school for the like of Jeffy Gunkert-Gannon.

Note who Carville worked for in that election. It sure wasn't the Liberal/Labor candidate.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 11:52 AM
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16. Democracy Corps is their group. Carville, Greenberg, Shrum...
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 07:43 AM
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14. here's some stuff
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 10:29 AM
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15. Mid-morning kick.
:kick:
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 11:02 AM
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17. And another...
:kick:
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