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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 07:09 PM
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From Robert Parry, Nov12,2006: Democrats, The Truth STILL Matters!
Mr. Parry is allowing this article to be reprinted in full - you may also repost at other forums you visit or on your sites. It is THAT important to help citizens to understand what the stakes are in all of this.

This is not about arguing for impeachment - it's about getting the truth out so events like a Bush presidency, 9-11 and Iraq war can NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.


Democrats, the Truth Still Matters!
By Robert Parry
(First Posted May 11, 2006)

Editor's Note: With the Democratic victories in the House and Senate, there is finally the opportunity to demand answers from the Bush administration about important questions, ranging from Dick Cheney's secret energy policies to George W. Bush's Iraq War deceptions. But the Democrats are sure to be tempted to put the goal of "bipartisanship" ahead of the imperative for truth.

Democrats, being Democrats, always want to put governance, such as enacting legislation and building coalitions, ahead of oversight, which often involves confrontation and hard feelings. Democrats have a difficult time understanding why facts about past events matter when there are problems in the present and challenges in the future.

Given that proclivity, we are re-posting a story from last May that examined why President Bill Clinton and the last Democratic congressional majority (in 1993-94) shied away from a fight over key historical scandals from the Reagan-Bush-I years -- and the high price the Democrats paid for that decision:

My book, Secrecy & Privilege, opens with a scene in spring 1994 when a guest at a White House social event asks Bill Clinton why his administration didn’t pursue unresolved scandals from the Reagan-Bush era, such as the Iraqgate secret support for Saddam Hussein’s government and clandestine arms shipments to Iran.

Clinton responds to the questions from the guest, documentary filmmaker Stuart Sender, by saying, in effect, that those historical questions had to take a back seat to Clinton’s domestic agenda and his desire for greater bipartisanship with the Republicans.

Clinton “didn’t feel that it was a good idea to pursue these investigations because he was going to have to work with these people,” Sender told me in an interview. “He was going to try to work with these guys, compromise, build working relationships.”

Clinton’s relatively low regard for the value of truth and accountability is relevant again today because other centrist Democrats are urging their party to give George W. Bush’s administration a similar pass if the Democrats win one or both houses of Congress.

Reporting about a booklet issued by the Progressive Policy Institute, a think tank of the Democratic Leadership Council, the Washington Post wrote, “these centrist Democrats … warned against calls to launch investigations into past administration decisions if Democrats gain control of the House or Senate in the November elections.”

These Democrats also called on the party to reject its “non-interventionist left” wing, which opposed the Iraq War and which wants Bush held accountable for the deceptions that surrounded it.

“Many of us are disturbed by the calls for investigations or even impeachment as the defining vision for our party for what we would do if we get back into office,” said pollster Jeremy Rosner, calling such an approach backward-looking.

Yet, before Democrats endorse the DLC’s don’t-look-back advice, they might want to examine the consequences of Clinton’s decision in 1993-94 to help the Republicans sweep the Reagan-Bush scandals under the rug. Most of what Clinton hoped for – bipartisanship and support for his domestic policies – never materialized.

‘Politicized’ CIA

After winning Election 1992, Clinton also rebuffed appeals from members of the U.S. intelligence community to reverse the Reagan-Bush “politicization” of the CIA’s analytical division by rebuilding the ethos of objective analysis even when it goes against a President’s desires.

Instead, in another accommodating gesture, Clinton gave the CIA director’s job to right-wing Democrat, James Woolsey, who had close ties to the Reagan-Bush administration and especially to its neoconservatives.

One senior Democrat told me Clinton picked Woolsey as a reward to the neocon-leaning editors of the New Republic for backing Clinton in Election 1992.

“I told that the New Republic hadn’t brought them enough votes to win a single precinct,” the senior Democrat said. “But they kept saying that they owed this to the editors of the New Republic.”

During his tenure at the CIA, Woolsey did next to nothing to address the CIA’s “politicization” issue, intelligence analysts said. Woolsey also never gained Clinton’s confidence and – after several CIA scandals – was out of the job by January 1995.

At the time of that White House chat with Stuart Sender, Clinton thought that his see-no-evil approach toward the Reagan-Bush era would give him an edge in fulfilling his campaign promise to “focus like a laser beam” on the economy.

He was taking on other major domestic challenges, too, like cutting the federal deficit and pushing a national health insurance plan developed by First Lady Hillary Clinton.

So for Clinton, learning the truth about controversial deals between the Reagan-Bush crowd and the autocratic governments of Iraq and Iran just wasn’t on the White House radar screen. Clinton also wanted to grant President George H.W. Bush a gracious exit.

“I wanted the country to be more united, not more divided,” Clinton explained in his 2004 memoir, My Life. “President Bush had given decades of service to our country, and I thought we should allow him to retire in peace, leaving the (Iran-Contra) matter between him and his conscience.”

Unexpected Results

Clinton’s generosity to George H.W. Bush and the Republicans, of course, didn’t turn out as he had hoped. Instead of bipartisanship and reciprocity, he was confronted with eight years of unrelenting GOP hostility, attacks on both his programs and his personal reputation.

Later, as tensions grew in the Middle East, the American people and even U.S. policymakers were flying partially blind, denied anything close to the full truth about the history of clandestine relationships between the Reagan-Bush team and hostile nations in the Middle East.

Clinton’s failure to expose that real history also led indirectly to the restoration of Bush Family control of the White House in 2001. Despite George W. Bush’s inexperience as a national leader, he drew support from many Americans who remembered his father’s presidency fondly.

If the full story of George H.W. Bush’s role in secret deals with Iraq and Iran had ever been made public, the Bush Family’s reputation would have been damaged to such a degree that George W. Bush’s candidacy would not have been conceivable.

Not only did Clinton inadvertently clear the way for the Bush restoration, but the Right’s political ascendancy wiped away much of the Clinton legacy, including a balanced federal budget and progress on income inequality. A poorly informed American public also was easily misled on what to do about U.S. relations with Iraq and Iran.

In retrospect, Clinton’s tolerance of Reagan-Bush cover-ups was a lose-lose-lose – the public was denied information it needed to understand dangerous complexities in the Middle East, George W. Bush built his presidential ambitions on the nation’s fuzzy memories of his dad, and Republicans got to enact a conservative agenda.

Clinton’s approach also reflected a lack of appreciation for the importance of truth in a democratic Republic. If the American people are expected to do their part in making sure democracy works, they need to be given at least a chance of being an informed electorate.

Yet, Clinton – and now some pro-Iraq War Democrats – view truth as an expendable trade-off when measured against political tactics or government policies. In reality, accurate information about important events is the lifeblood of democracy.

Though sometimes the truth can hurt, Clinton and the Democrats should understand that covering up the truth can hurt even more. As Clinton’s folly with the Reagan-Bush scandals should have taught, the Democrats may hurt themselves worst of all when helping the Republicans cover up the truth.

Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His latest book, Secrecy & Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq, can be ordered at secrecyandprivilege.com. It's also available at Amazon.com, as is his 1999 book, Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth.'

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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 07:11 PM
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1. Compromising with corruption is corrupt in and of itself...
but then the DLC is already there.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 07:26 PM
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2. Expose the BFEE ONCE and for ALL!
In retrospect, Clinton’s tolerance of Reagan-Bush cover-ups was a lose-lose-lose – the public was denied information it needed to understand dangerous complexities in the Middle East, George W. Bush built his presidential ambitions on the nation’s fuzzy memories of his dad, and Republicans got to enact a conservative agenda.

Anything less puts the national security of our country in grave jeorpardy.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:52 PM
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10. Get the article to any site you visit.
You get it, fooj. And that's why it's important for those who do to inform others.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 07:29 PM
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3. For the time being, I choose to believe that the Democratic leadership
has in fact learned some lessons, that their recent remarks about taking impeachment off the table (Pelosi, Conyers) & not to go overboard on investigative hearings (Biden) are just smokescreens meant to prevent backlash & division. The Democrats have to get into the door first, & to do that they can't come on too strongly.

Just hearing that Conyers supports Pelosi's off-the-table statment tells me that everything is under control. Conyers won't let us down.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 07:37 PM
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4. It's the Dems who covered up once before who are asserting their will on the party
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 07:37 PM by blm
and manipulating the election results to their own benefit and are definitely exercising it in the media.

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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 07:59 PM
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5. Just to be clear for "outside" readers, what you mean by
the Democrats "manipulating the election results to their own benefit" is that you feel they're taking ownership or taking advantage of the election results, right? :)

That's a good point & I should have added to my previous post that if the Democrats don't hold this administration accountable for its crimes against this country (I believe they will), I hope there's a public outrage like this country's never seen before. We'll hound them until they take action.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:05 PM
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7. absolutely - they jumped in front of the parade 2mon ago and are now trying to claim
have led it for the last 4 years - so what they say goes.....and they have been doing exactly that in the media as they have the greater access to media thru their longtime alliances with BushInc.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:00 PM
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6. Truth and trust are inextricably linked. "We the People ..." know that. And, ...
... we are going to continue, and expand, our commitment to holding those whom have the privilege to represent us to the truth, nothing but the truth, every day.

Only those who continue to delude themselves regarding what happened on election day 2006 will be surprised when they are on their way to jail.


Never, Ever Forget: George W. Bush willfully violated National Security to cover-up his willful launch of a war of aggression and illegal occupation of Iraq .... and, now he willfully provided nuke-making instructions to terrorists -- if you doubt it, just check 'the google' ....
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 05:16 PM
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33. I wish more people would understand this is how it works, ulife.
But, apparently even this will become a battle - I didn't realize that uncovering truth about BushInc would be something that any DUer would downplay out of loyalty for the coverup wing of the party.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:09 PM
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8. Direct Link ------- For bookmarking/downloading
And reading MORE from Robert Parry. A "netroots" pioneer, godfather, and icon.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/051006.html

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:16 PM
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9. Here's the UPDATED link with an editor's note.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

PS - Thanks for "getting" it, Senator. In my opinion, Parry's article here is one of the most important commentaries written post 9-11.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:54 PM
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11. Agree, blm. It's because of this shrouding of Iran-Contra that we are facing it again,
in a MUCH more virulent form. The Bill Clinton years were merely a temporary detour from the BFEE's rampages. And because of this, the BFEE hated him.

Just like in 1991, now we are again mucking around in Iraq, we have a catastrophically inept and disliked pResident, a witches' brew of Iran-Contra criminals concocting more chaos, and this time it's global.

And just like in 1991, we are getting crushed under debt, a failing economy and crippling tax break giveaways to the wealthy elite.

And just like in 1991, a despised administration is robbing us of our ability to survive and raise our families, and then sending our kids off to die.


Never before has the way out of this catastrophe been clearer. We MUST fully investigate and expose these convicted/pardoned/otherwise felonious players from the Iran-Contra debacle, because they are once again infesting our government.

We have not yet learned our lesson from those terrible years of criminal activity by these people, so now we are being given *another opportunity.*

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 06:26 AM
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16. Yes, it makes a useful "cluestick" for our side...
...who have such difficulty in holding the finish.

Maybe this time they'll finally wise up.

(BTW, it would be helpful to repost it with regularity. Since this is a recurring argument, force it into response as often as you can.)

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 11:07 AM
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22. And I encourage others to do the same.
If you go to other boards like kos, bartcop, atrios, etc..... everyone is encoraged to post and permitted to post it in full.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 09:47 PM
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12. Yes -- this is so important
It annoys me greatly that so many white collar criminals are given a free pass.

Bush and his cronies are some of the most destructive and dangerous criminals who ever existed. Giving them a pass on this would be an open invitation to future tyrants to feel free to trash our laws and our Constitution as much as they like. I was against the Nixon pardon for the same reason, though I don't think that Nixon was anywhere near as bad as Bush. This will never end until our elected representatives rise up and say that this kind of behaviour is unacceptable and dangerous, and criminals will be held accountable.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:22 PM
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13. You can never apease imperialist. They will see it as weakness and
then regroup to subvert democracy again!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 08:53 AM
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20. And the moment a Dem DOES let it drop, they have been coopted and corrupted,too
and are stuck continuing the coverup because of that one earlier decision.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 07:54 AM
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29. Now the fight to stop that cooptation really begins. We have to keep
up constant pressure on the dems, leading them kicking and screaming into democracy. We need to stay on them like stink on pasture patties.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 12:06 AM
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14. The Truth is the only disinfectant for BFEE treason.
The entire government stinks with the rot of treason, let alone corruption, going back generations -- at least to November 22, 1963.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 06:11 PM
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23. It seems too many DUers have bought into the BS from the coverup wing of the party.
Please use this wherever you can, Octafish - even a new thread to open some eyes. Remember that you can post the atricle in full.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 01:00 AM
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15. Great post.
If we give Bush, Jr. a pass on the crimes he's committed, we have effectively made the President a King. Accountable to no one. Hell of a precedent we'll be creating.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 06:51 AM
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17. I like the idea of holding these folks accountable. I'm not so sure Clinton had a chance
in hell of succeeding with any of these investigations with the Congress he had. Sure, he had a Democratic majority at the start, but it made sense to focus on health care, despite the fact that so many Democrats led by Moynihan humiliated him for no damn good reason. Then they lost control. Does Robert really think Clinton could have engineered an investigation of republicans using the republican majority? I'm lost as to why Robert needs to push off of Clinton to make his point. I'm especially put off by this statement:

"Clinton’s relatively low regard for the value of truth and accountability is relevant again today because other centrist Democrats are urging their party to give George W. Bush’s administration a similar pass if the Democrats win one or both houses of Congress."

I'll leave it at that.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:01 AM
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21. Because these investigations were ALREADY in progress, and instead of freeing up
documents that had been kept from investigators, Clinton wanted everything dropped. Iraqgate issues were being tried with no vigor for prosecution, but hasty deals with minimum fines became the order of the day. There were outstanding issues on both IranContra and BCCI, too. By the time CIA drugrunning came out in 1995, Clinton sided with Poppy, yet again, and had the story denied and downplayed.

And it doesn't matter what a Congress will do - Patrick Fitzgerald had to work against an entire DC powerstructure.

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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:46 AM
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18. I ALWAYS need links,
since one of my major venues (my union's BBS) has a 3KB size limit. So here's the link: http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

Not that term, "conspiracy buff", merits a total rejection, but few are "peer-reviewed" by credible people, and some rely on unverifiable assertions. But IMO, Robert Parry IS "credible", and I'll read that very carefully. But at this point, I think impeachment as a major goal would be a serious distraction--- perhaps even a quagmire. Step-by-step dismantling (and discrediting for all time) of what that gang has done these past 6 years should be the way to go.

After that, restoration of the FCC "Fairness Doctrine".

pnorman
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 08:51 AM
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19. Impeachment would be an unnecessary step . Open the books and Bush RESIGNS as the
first wave of documents hits the desks. And will take alot of his coverup team with him.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:35 PM
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24. Cover up the truth and the repugs will be back in force in 2 yrs.
Ready to commit the next round of atrocities.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 07:45 PM
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25. BINGO!!!! And undo any Good that had been accomplished.
Edited on Sun Nov-12-06 07:45 PM by blm
That's what covering up for the BFEE gets the Democratic party. I am sure the 9-11 families wish that Clinton hadn't covered up so much for Poppy Bush.

I am sure they won't appreciate the NEXT coverup Democratic administration doing the same for the Bushboy.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 08:15 PM
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27. Yep, the monster will be back in two years, unless the whole truth
comes out. No cover up this time.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 02:11 PM
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32. It's just a FACT - an already PROVEN fact - so anyone pretending it wouldn't be a problem
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 02:12 PM by blm
HAS to be part of the party that works to coverup the crimes of BushInc. I wouldn't trust ANY of them.
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Psyop Samurai Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 08:08 PM
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26. Recommending again...
My eye is on the "hour hand".

We, collectively (however unwittingly), have long enabled the treason and rot. Now we need a new foundation. I think the dichotomy between "attending to business" or "draining the swamp" (or whatever you want to call it) is fundamentally false. Where there is the moral will, (and, at this point, anything less is a moral obscenity), you simply, metaphorically speaking, post a sign saying, "please excuse the temporary inconvenience", like every other business does. And, *shudder*, horror of horrors, there may actually be some inconvenience.

Pnorman mentioned the Fairness Doctrine, and I would echo that as a co-equal concern. No true foundation can occur without addressing the vile abomination euphemistically referred to as "the media". The capacity of the traitors to re-contextualize is boundless, no matter what investigations may be held, no matter what crimes may be "revealed".

I've beheld most of these recent years in a state of shocked horror, and am grateful to those of you who have kept a flame alive for those too stunned to speak. From my observations, I believe that their supposed "winning hand" consists of very little aside from deception, misdirection, obfuscation and bluff. I therefor, in closing, cannot do better than to echo the words of Octafish:

The Truth is the only disinfectant for BFEE treason.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:05 PM
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28. Some things you don't want recycled
Impeach!
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 09:54 AM
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30. There must come an end to this deception and corruption...
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 09:55 AM by Q
...or this Republic will eventually rot and evolve into an autocracy.

Our form of government was supposed to have separate but equal branches of government...each a watchdog over the others. The Bush regime...with the help of their New Democrat buddies...put an end to that by solidifying power in the executive branch while turning the other branches into rubber stamps.

A Democracy can't work if corruption is never exposed by those with the power to do so. It's the Democratic party's duty to put an end to this corruption RIGHT NOW. Waiting for the 'right moment' is a fools game.

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"Clinton’s approach also reflected a lack of appreciation for the importance of truth in a democratic Republic. If the American people are expected to do their part in making sure democracy works, they need to be given at least a chance of being an informed electorate.

Yet, Clinton – and now some pro-Iraq War Democrats – view truth as an expendable trade-off when measured against political tactics or government policies. In reality, accurate information about important events is the lifeblood of democracy.

Though sometimes the truth can hurt, Clinton and the Democrats should understand that covering up the truth can hurt even more. As Clinton’s folly with the Reagan-Bush scandals should have taught, the Democrats may hurt themselves worst of all when helping the Republicans cover up the truth."
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:33 PM
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31. Because almost every GOOD thing Clinton did was DESTROYED or DISMANTLED by Bush2
by the end of his first term. And THAT is what Democrats have to start wrapping their brains around.


Had Clinton made the earky decision to get the truth out there, there would have been no takeover of Congress in 95, no impeachment, no Bush2 presidency and no 9-11, and no Iraq war. And it would have been alot easier to have universal healthcare by the beginning of his first term.

People need to stop and REALLY THINK about how lies and coverups effect the party and the nation and the WORLD in practical, everyday, real life ways, too.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:56 AM
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34. Kick to the pants of the BFEE
Thanks, blm. As Bartcop says: "ConsortiumNews.com is the most important site on the World Wide Web." It holds nothing but Truth.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:39 AM
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35. No more COVERUP Dem presidencies - this country won't survive if the truth isn't
shared with the CITIZENS.
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