Reep email chain letter. Comments, please?

[elehhhhna]

VETERANS DAY IS COMING 11/11



It is the VETERAN , not the preacher,
who has given us freedom of religion.

It is the VETERAN , not the reporter,
who has given us freedom of the press.

It is the VETERAN , not the poet,
who has given us freedom of speech.

It is the VETERAN , not the campus organizer,
who has given us freedom to assemble.

It is the VETERAN , not the lawyer,
who has given us the right to a fair trial.

It is the VETERAN , not the politician,
Who has given us the right to vote.

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It is the VETERAN ,
who salutes the Flag,




It is the veteran,
who serves under the Flag, !





ETERNAL REST GRANT THEM O LORD, AND LET PERPETUAL LIGHT SHINE UPON THEM.


VETERANS KNOW THAT THE OATH OF ALLEGIANCE HAS NO EXPIRATION DATE.

God Bless them all!!!


"You may never know what results come from your action.
But if you do nothing, there will be no result."
Mahatma Gandhi

[Union Thug]

1. Um, no. It's the constitution, not the veteran. No disrespect

to veterans.

[EstimatedProphet]

6. Agreed

There is no document called the Veteran of the United States of America.

Veterans may have served to defend the Constitution, and deserve our respect. They do not deserve us sucking up, which is what this email is.

[elehhhhna]

15. GW said " Veterans are just a goddam piece of carbon-based life forms"

[elehhhhna]

14. My response, sent earlier:

"We were actually granted & guaranteed those things by the Constitution and Bill of Rights. The Vets--including the Insurgent Americans in the Revolutionary War, fought and died to protect them.

LOVE that Gandhi quote.

Y' know he wasn't a Christian, right?"

[LTR]

2. Email them the list of Chickenhawks

I think it's from http://www.awolbush.com

[unpossibles]

8. great idea! and mention that these non-veterans are the ones who are

trying to remove all of those rights!

[Kerrytravelers]

10. Thank you for that link. Bookmarked for a rainy day!

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

3. You forgot the "if you agree with this, send it to all your friend!" part

[evlbstrd]

4. I thought it was the Constitution

that gave us all of those things.
And eternal rest? I'm a veteran, and not quite ready for that.

[elehhhhna]

17. I think that's a ref to all George's many vacations.

[unpossibles]

5. I would say it is the veterans (and thank you to all who serve!)

who preserves the rights mentioned.

If anything it is the Revolutionary (ie: the Founders of the country) who has given us all of those rights.

[elehhhhna]

18. They'd ostensibly dying for that for Iraqis right now.

go figure. "We're giving people rights over THERE, so we can take them away over HERE."

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

7. I'm surprised they didn't just say "It was Reagan"

That's what these patronizing type of things are usually trying to get at.....

[elehhhhna]

19. SHUDDUP! IT WAS POPPY

and everbody knows that.

[Dr Fate]

9. Bullshit. China, Cuba, N. Korea & Iran have plenty of Veterans too.

Not to take away from the role of U.S. Vets, but the existence of a Military alone does not make a Country free.

All the Vets in the world mean nothing without a valid, healthy Constitution based government and citizens who insist on exercising their freedom.

[NYCGirl]

11. It's simplistic, makes people feel good and is harmless. Is the Gandhi

quote part of it?

[elehhhhna]

21. Yes! Stoopid freepers. Using a quote from a pacifist. der.

[jpgray]

12. If soldiers mean more freedoms, explain Nazi Germany, USSR, etc.

Nice sentiment, but soldiers do what they're told.

[Kerrytravelers]

13. I'd say the veterans along with those smeared in this email preserve

the rights granted to America citizens. But I don't think soldiers in Iraq has given me the right to, say, a fair trial. And my dad, the Vietnam vet and career military man, after hearing this email, would like to know how, after being dragged to Vietnam, he somehow gave us freedom of religion when the * cabal was quite happy to start a "crusade" again Muslims.

[ScreamingMeemie]

16. Do Veterans not also work as journalists, preachers, poets,

politicians, and campus organizers?

[elehhhhna]

29. !!!11!!111!

[Warren DeMontague]

20. Actually, it's the constitution. But take a Vet to lunch, anyway.

And if you really want to respect the troops, work to bring 'em back from Iraq.

[RobertSeattle]

22. I clipped this quote a while back...

"I didn't spend time in uniform supporting and defending the Bible."

As a FYI, Here's the OATH an military officer takes. Note it doesn't say anyting about "Republican President"

I (insert name), having been appointed a (insert rank) in the (U.S. Army/Marines/Navy/Air Force/Coast Guard) under the conditions indicated in this document, do accept such appointment and do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter, so help me God.

[Blue-Jay]

23. It is the VETERAN , not the Right Wing idealogue,

who has suffered under this administration.

Go to a VA hospital and find out how veterans really feel.

Oh, and stop sending out stupid email forwards that YOU DIDN'T WRITE.

[Lexingtonian]

24. militaristic selfcongratulation

These fellows are wonderfully ahistorical. During the Civil War the South was the armed camp- all of society was dedicted to its war effort- and the North retained a largely peacetime civil society. Guess in which one the Constitution of 1787 was preserved, and in which one it was betrayed.

All these good Republican militarists should have a good look at themselves in the mirror and read Section 1 of the 14th Amendment about a dozen times in a row. They're always willing to sell that one out, and their party has undermined all of the rights listed in the email through that.

It's these Republican 'veterans' who salute the flag, but hate and want to deny rights of full citizenship to half of Americans. The day they slandered Kerry they spit, pissed, and shat on the flag.

[elehhhhna]

25. Well said. Thank you.

[InkAddict]

26. Don't like being reminded of

the anniversary of our head-on MVA on the way to an early holiday shopping expedition that complicated our lives.

[LanternWaste]

27. Well...

It was the preacher who became a veteran.
("If death must come--then far better for it to come when I'm shoulder to shoulder with these men who are fighting to preserve our country. . . . They are going to know that, in spite of being 'scared as hell' like the rest of them, a Catholic Priest is still going ahead and doing his work." Father James P. Flynn, Iwo Jima )

It was the reporter who became a veteran.
(127 women given accreditation by the US government during the Second World War, including Margaret Bourke-White, the only non-Russian photojournalist in Moscow when the German invasion began (a period when the Russian leadership threatened to shoot anyone who took photographs) and Martha Gellhorn, who reached on the D-Day beaches by stowing away.)

It was the poet who became a veteran.
(What passing-bells for these who die as cattle?
-Only the monstrous anger of the guns.
Only the stuttering rifles' rapid rattle
Can patter out their hasty orisons.
No mockeries now for them; no prayers nor bells;
Nor any voice of mourning save the choirs,-
The shrill, demented choirs of wailing shells;
And bugles calling for them from sad shires.
Wilfred Owen Died in Flanders. )

It was the campus organizer who became a veteran.
(John Kerry. 'nuff said.)

It was the lawyer who became a veteran.
(Lt. Buck Compton. WWII vet who later went on to convict Sirhan-Sirhan)

[elehhhhna]

30. PLEASE make a thread with that on Monday. Please?

wow

[LanternWaste]

32. Off topic

Hey... I thought I was the only progressive in TX!

[elehhhhna]

33. Guess you ain't here in NICK LAMPSON's District BLUE22 !

[DawgHouse]

28. All due respect to Veterans, of course

but citizens have fought hard for some of those rights.

[VeggieTart]

31. It was indeed the constitution

And it's been a long time since I heard a clergyperson publicly standing up for freedom of religion. Many of the most public preachers want to turn this country into a fucking theocracy.

[jmowreader]

34. North Korea and Cuba have veterans too...