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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 09:43 AM
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Musings of a Skeptic - Bush is Too Damn Happy.
I watched the press conference yesterday. This does not seem like a man who lost his rubber stampers. Unless he's the best actor in the world, more disappointment should have shown in his demeanor.

Did the BFEE want the Dems to take over? Is the real prize 08? And, is the only way the Reps stand a chance in 08 to put Dems in a position to create a record of governance that they could assail in 08? Did the BFEE come to the conclusion that Iraq is unwinable and they know that the only solution is to withdraw? The Dems will then most certainly own any unfortunate outcome of withdrawal.

And why, apparently, didn't they rig the elections? Yes, voter intimidation, robo-calling, fucking with registrations, but if they had a secret vote scamming software, why didn't they save Macaca???

I would love to believe that this election was won on the up and up. That the People were given a chance to be heard. But, I haven't trusted these bastards since they rushed to war instead of letting inspectors continue. The longer they found nothing, the faster Bush pushed to invade - the actions of an imprudent leader, a dishonest man. I would also bet my life that they stole the 04 election. So, why would they give up so easily now?

If the Democrats understand this concept, and know that they are being put in a position to fail, they must move very methodically. They must make a list public - and I mean public like the Brittney Spears divorce. Every afternoon and every Sunday, someone should talk about it. They must then consistently and uniformly report progress - or lack thereof (publicizing Bush vetoes). This is the only way that we won't fall into their trap.
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willing dwarf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 09:47 AM
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1. I think he's nuts & sedated
Did you hear the weird non sequitor he threw in asking the reporters if they thought he was " nuts"? It was so strange, but telling. Seems to me he is kept completely in the dark about what's going on, or fed information that he regurgitates, believeing it's true. The man lives in a fool's paradise, and so doesn't need to ack when he stands up and smiles. He's clueless.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 09:48 AM
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2. actually, he looked mad as hell to me
And no, they didn't want to lose.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 09:48 AM
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3. oh come on. enough. prior it was what do they have up sleeve. TOO
happy.

he is clueless... look at his face most of the time, clueless. he is empty and shallow not a lot there
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:33 AM
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23. I wish I still could believe that justice prevails - like I once did.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 09:50 AM
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4. I'll see the skepticism and raise you some tin foil
Edited on Thu Nov-09-06 09:50 AM by shadowknows69
Is the only way for the rethugs to prove that they're the only ones tough on terra is for the Dems to have the houses for a while then, hey! Here comes a MIHOP or LIHOP attack in time for 2008.

"The Dems let this happen!" Vote Rethug to save yourselves!!!TERRRRA!!!!"

That or Bush has them all knocked off as they're getting sworn in in the same place. Takes out the SC too.

tin foil off.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 09:52 AM
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5. You made me smile this morning...
I don't want to belittle your worries, but it struck me as funny because of last night's Daily Show.

John Oliver did a segment in which he said the Democrats were scared to death after their victory because it just doesn't make sense! Their strategy is to lock hands in a circle with their backs to each other so Rove can't sneak up on them. If one of them has to pee, they all shuffle to the bathroom together.

:rofl:

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fidgeting wildly Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:17 AM
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17. I love John Oliver!
I almost fell off the sofa when he did that "lock arms in a circle" joke. :rofl: I always looks forward to his segments.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:28 AM
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22. I saw some of that - and I didn't know what the context was. Funny.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:54 AM
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24. Didn't see that
Ouch, scared minds think alike. I have to give Bush and the crew one thing. They definitely made me scared as a 2 year old in the last 6 years. OF THEM!!!
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 09:54 AM
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6. I have wondered the same thing
if perhaps there won't be something else happening, almost certainly gas prices will go up but what else? Could it be that the BFEE has already consolidated enough power in the WH that the senate and congress no longer matter? The "signing statements" alone are bad enough and as we've seen with the torture bill can essentially undo what ever it is the bill does.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:06 AM
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11. "The Senate is nothing more than a rubber stamp, now. All the
power rests with Chancellor Palpatine."
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:06 AM
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13. Ok, consider this scenario. The Baker group concludes there is
NO easy out of Iraq. A withdrawal is the best option BUT there
will be much bloodshed (more than now). They will start using the words Civil War like it's going out of style.

Bush has been informed of this conclusion. He wants no part of it. When the shit hits the fan, "Hell, I told you stay the course, victory, blah, blah, blah." All his rubber stampers can say the exact same thing.

We withdraw in early 08, bloodshed insues, the crazies get back in.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:24 AM
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21. Or we try to withdraw
and so much bloodshed ensues that we must stay, what we must do is come up with a plan to withdraw our troops slowly and include the possibility of replacing some of them UNFIL, while this is going on we also must take part in the rebuilding of Iraq,Colin Powell was right about that much "you broke it you bought it"
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 09:55 AM
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7. Are you kidding me?
He was more petulant and snappy than I've *ever* seen him.

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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:06 AM
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12. I agree with bouncy, he was petulant, snappy and not at all happy.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:08 AM
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14. Yikes, I thought he seemed very OK. I didn't even see that
creepy smirk of his.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:58 AM
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26. someone last night (I think it was Mike Malloy?) made an
abstute observation: they couldn't get over how "articulate" he was during that press conference, opposed to others.

Bush can only "speak" coherently either when he's completely pissed off, or when he's talking about killing.

I report; you decide.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 09:57 AM
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8. I'm wondering why he waited until after the election to fire Rumsfled.
Or rather, why the BFEE waited. Gates was prepped and ready to go. I can't figure out what the reasoning is, I just have a bad feeling about this.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:13 AM
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15. What pisses me off about the firing was that it stole our thunder
100%. Winning the senate was just a banner on the talk shows. Sure, I wanted him out - but shit, couldn't he have waited at least a day or two?

Despite Rummy's incompetance, my siding with underdog streak came through. Someone said yesterday that Bush had ice running through his veins. Here's a man who was unflinchingly loyal for 6 years (albeit misguided). Totally humiliates him - even drags him up on stage with his successor. Once again, Bush, never taking responsibility for his own actions.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 09:59 AM
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9. That is some circular logic.
They gave us power to keep us out of power?

No, they tried to rig the elections but the voters came out in too large numbers to rig. They skim about 1 to 10% off the Democratic vote and pass it on to the repukes. But even 20% wont help you if you are 75% behind.

Rove had THE Math but it still wasn't enough to defeat the wave in Democratic voters. I believe they did rig a few elections in certain districts and states. The exit polls have not been released and it makes me curious what the real results would have been. Anyway we managed to get some power back and they can do all the spinning they want but we honestly won the elections, without the help of the dancing supremes thank you. It is more than what the bushes can say about their election wins.

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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:22 AM
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20. Sure, it's Machiavellian - but think about it. Bush is still in power
His rubber stampers are out of power - but he is still in. The real dirty tricks happen in the executive branch. The rubber stampers were expendable and are replaceable. Maybe they don't even know. Maybe they do. All they had to do was look at the facts. Dems were going to sweep - no way to rig every election in the country. BFEE decides that the only way, and I mean the only way, they could win in 08 would be if they cede power to entrap the Dems.

If we hadn't won, would anyone in their right mind believe that the Reps could win in 08? Remember their ultimate goal is to perpetuate power. They would never do that with the status quo.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:03 AM
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10. I agree, and I suspect the Dem leadership does too.
That's the real reason they aren't calling for impreachment right off the bat. Slow and prudent steps, where we are sure of the footing, will prevent them from turning this victory around on us.

As for impeachment, I believe we should proceed with all the investigations, take a second look at those that have already been done. Do you think a republican congress is going to seriously investigate Abramoff and the republican corrpution connected to it? the only things done so far are what could not be avoided - there's a lot more there, I'm sure. With the results of those investigations, I think it would be impossible to avoid impeachment - we just have to build from the bottom, not go directly after Cheney and *.
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Bush_MUST_Go Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:16 AM
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16. You'd smile too if you had 2 more years to raid the treasury & line your pockets.
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Loisenman Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:18 AM
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18. The Man Lacks a Soul
Look the man lacks a soul, or is so hidden that it is the next closest thing to not having a soul. He's not deep enough to see any larger perspective. His "dance card" is still full.
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scudrunner Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 10:18 AM
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19. He looked spooked to me eom
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:56 AM
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25. He truly does not care... he is Chauncey Gardner from Being There.
He was chosen to play the role of prez.. promised lots of video game time, lots of nap time, and free beer (and the idea of being baseball commish). He truly does not care to bother himself with details. Laura is smoking and drinking her way through this term. They are incurious captives in this little charade.
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:59 AM
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27. He looked terrible to me. The guy was unhealthy looking and babbling nonsense...
...you know, even more so than usual. :shrug:
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 12:01 PM
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28. I think he's relieved. The burden of responsibility has been too much
for him. Now he can coast, while blaming the Dems for any shit that pops up over the next two years.
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