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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:34 AM
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Heard on Imus. Lieberman says he'll vote with the Republicans.
They were interviewing Pat Buchanan.
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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:35 AM
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1. I hope the people of Connecticut are happy
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:35 AM
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2. He's going to waltz in there like a fucking prince.
Most of his votes came from Republicans, I would not be surprised if this were true.

He sucks.

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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:36 AM
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3. Surprise, surprise, surprise..
... how could anyone have thought otherwise? People with no character have no character.
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thefloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:37 AM
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4. Good
At least he makes things official
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:36 AM
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59. agreed and fuck him
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:37 AM
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5. Buchanan said
that republicans will attempt to get Lieberman to join forces with them. He did not say that Lieberman has announced he is voting with republicans.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:40 AM
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14. we don't want to ever be accused of being accurate
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:25 AM
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56. DAMN DUers love to make shit up.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:43 AM
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38. I heard Buchanan say that Lieberman told a Republican
he might vote with them.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:57 AM
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45. I wouln't trust anything that BIGOT buchanan says
in addition, Lieberman is FOR STEM CELL RESEARCH, AND FOR A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE, and other progressive values


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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:28 AM
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57. Yep.
That is, of course, distinct from what the OP professes.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:37 AM
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6. Thanks, connecticut
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 07:40 AM by DireStrike
you fucking jackasses.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:39 AM
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10. He's not gonna do it...
He'll make his deals and get what he can. He's not going to repudiate the Dems. He's nothing if not a pragmatist and the Rethug line is not the place to be these days.

All IMO...
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:58 AM
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46. You are absolutely right
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 09:58 AM by still_one
like it or not, he has more Democratic friends in Congress than republican


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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:00 AM
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48. Connecticut seems like a nice bluish place - I'm from TEXAS
Why are they so kooked out over Lieberman? I guess Connecticutians don't like to change things.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:01 AM
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50. No thanks
Bill, Hillary, Barack and all the other Dem incumbent leaders that DID NOTHING TO HELP NED LAMONT - more important to back the incumbent to show those uppity CT primary voters than to support your own freaking party.....

I've been worried about this ever since I heard Joe LIEberman was so far ahead in the polls - Joe LIEberman cares about nobody but himself...
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:38 AM
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7. He said he was "beholden to nobody"
what a fucking liar!
The repukes paid for his campain, he has to pay them back.

stupid STUPID people in CT.
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:40 AM
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13. They paid for him, and they elected him.
All the rethugs voted for him instead of the rethug candidate. Did you smee his smug face at his victory speech? The asshole sure is full of himself.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:38 AM
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8. Well, wouldn't that be a surprise....
...NOT!
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:38 AM
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9. Obviously he's the jerk we believed him to be
Fortunately that also means he can be influenced with the right touch. The Dems just need to influence him more than the Repugs.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:39 AM
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11. So then, we can strip him of his committee appointments.
If he's voting that way, he can't claim the party affiliation any longer or the privileges associated with it.

Cut him off! NOW!
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:39 AM
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12. Yesterday it was reported he wouldn't be. His mother wouldn't let him.
I am not joking.
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:06 AM
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34. Can you imagine...Joe stop it or I'll tell your Mother!
what a maroon.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:23 AM
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37. Yea. Isn't that great. I hope it works.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:41 AM
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15. So if MT and VA go our way and we want to hold the Senate, the Dems
need to suck on Joe to get him to vote with us? :scared: That gives holy joe way too much power.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:48 AM
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18. Hmmm.
Joe only has to vote with Dems (Assuming we get MT and VA) for the election of the Senate majority.

After that, all he could do would be to obstruct things by voting with the repukes and getting Cheney's bloated body to cast the deciding vote.

But, how often can they vote for the leadership? Once per session of congress, or anytime they feel like it.

Anyway, I don't think Joe will turn repuke on us... unless he is ready to retire.

And couldn't Conn recall his ass? If I were them I'd get the petition all ready to go.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:53 AM
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22. Rummy out Joe (Asshat-Neoconn) in.
R governor of Connecticut appoints R replacement, Senate goes to a 50-50 tie with Duck! Cheney having the deciding vote.

But I don't f'ing care. John Conyers has subpoena power!
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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:59 AM
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26. We won't need him. We'll be able to logroll plenty of Republicans who see the writing on the wall
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:40 AM
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60. We do need him - it is not how he votes
but who is in the majority in the Senate which determines the head of committees and how the whole damn place runs. If Joe caucuses with us we have the majority and Ted Kennedy becomes head of the jucidiary committee which any Supreme Court nomination has to go through - very very very important since Justice Stevens is apparently ill. If Joe caucuses with the repunks it is tied and the whole committee thing gets a lot more complicated

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:42 AM
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16. It's just speculation.
Leiberman told his constituents he would vote with the Democrats. My concern is King George tapping Leiberman to be Secretary of Defense and having his spot filled by a Republican.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:05 AM
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32. Wouldn't that be wonderful?
First and foremost, Lieberman is pro-Israel, even to the extent of putting Israel's best interests before America's in my opinion. A SecDef that would be firmly in the pocket of Israel. :eyes: How many new wars would be generated defending Israel from any imagined threat?
I don't think Bush would go that far though, He'd risk alienating even more of his base if he appointed a left-leaning Republican like Lieberman to such a Conservative red-meat position like SecDef.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:05 AM
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53. Lieberman can't be appointed SecDef - he's a DEM! They are soft on Terra!
Bu$h painted himself into a corner with this one. He's gone on and on about how the Dems would let the terrorists win. Now whatever WE think of Lieberman, Bu$h's base thinks he is a Dem. If Bu$h were to appoint Lieberman to the Sec Def position, he would be repudiating one of his big talking points.

He would be appointing a Dem to that post - a big problem for his base.

I just can't see even Bu$h being this stupid, even if it would be a backhanded way to even up the Senate.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:42 AM
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17. Is anyone surprised since they elected him and that is
where his little black heart is (Repukeland)?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:49 AM
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19. LOL,
Folks, it's Pat Buchanan talking. You don't really think he has an inside line with Lieberman, do you? Joe is not going to caucus with the repukes. I've said this before, I'll say it again: My mother, who was very active in dem politics for decades and has known Joe for years, is admament about this, (she voted for Lamont). I'll take my mother's word over Buchanan's anyday.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:50 AM
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20. don't listen to Imus
it makes you stupid (not, you... but the program is shit)...
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:52 AM
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21. Won't happen
Ole' Joe knows who butters his bread.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:53 AM
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23. Huh?
You heard this from Imus who heard it from Buchanan who heard it from...?
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:48 AM
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39. He was interviewing Pat.
I heard it from Pat. I like Pat - he's a good honest conservative. Much better than a neocon.
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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:56 AM
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24.  He has more to gain by being with us than against us
and because Joe is smart and because Joe does what's good for Joe, he'll come around I suspect. We need the Senate though to really be able to reign him in.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:58 AM
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25. So this is based on something BUCHANAN said on IMUS?
straight from the horse's mouth then, isn't it?

:eyes:

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:01 AM
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29. I Think You Mean The Other Orifice
eom
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 07:59 AM
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27. Joe Will Be Joe
Left of center on social issues. In the center on economic issues. And right of center on foreign policy/defense.

I'm happy we won..."With malice toward none. With charity for all.."


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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:01 AM
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28. Strip ol Joe of his seniority, with MT & VA, we will have our majority
in the senate. If ol Joe gets out of line, let him go. See how CT likes it having a CT senator in the minority with no seniority or power.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:03 AM
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30. as lieberman has said numerous times
he will caucus with the dems.

the repukes are trying anything to hold onto power.

Buchanan also said last night that he spoke to rove and was told that that Allen would win VA easily, we can see he was wrong there.


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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:03 AM
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31. Buchanan says so or Lieberman said so?
Buchanan is not to be trusted.

I doubt he'll make a total break like that -- where does that help him? He'll sit on his bipartisan throne, awaiting bows and scrapes from both sides.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:06 AM
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33. Neither.
Buchanan did not say that.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:18 AM
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35. He would be more likely to do so if the Repugs were in the majority
Then they could offer him a committee chairmanship which he would jump at.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 08:20 AM
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36. Imus just finished the interview with Joementum
and Joe said "to maintain my seniority, on procedural matters, I have said that I will vote Democratic and that's what I intend to do... but on other issues, I will be much more independent".
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:49 AM
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40. There you are.
Straight from the horse's mouth.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:01 AM
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49. Wrong end, in his case.
Just sayin'.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:49 AM
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41. I don't know.
Republicans don't trust him, Democrats don't trust him (or want him).

It looks like he's kind of...homeless. At least in Vermont they can pull that off--their independents vote with the Democratic caucus.

But Joe? He's just out there flapping in the wind.

He did this to himself.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:51 AM
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42. Yeah, but now he's the most powerful guy in the Senate...
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:56 AM
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43. Bullshit, lieberman said JUST THE OPPOSITE
anything buchanan says is not to be taken at face value


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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:57 AM
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44. Lieberman will vote with whatever best suits Liberman's interests
That's just who he is.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:58 AM
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47. He'll caucus with the Dems and get all our secrets
then run over to the cReep camp and vote with them.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:04 AM
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51. I am weirdly thrilled for Lieberman
I felt he was railroaded in the Primary, and now he gets to keep his seat and become arguably the most powerful person in the Senate. Both Parties will have to be kissing his butt big-time over the next two years.

But I think, all in all, he will be with the Dems on the issues that matter most. He doesn't seem to be the type of politician to openly take revenge on people who wronged him. (If I were him, I can only imagine what types of games I would be playing right now).
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:05 AM
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52. That's a fucking lie. Lieberman might be a rat, but he isn't voting Republican
You must've heard wrong and I hope you clarify this when you find that out, either here or in another thread.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:15 AM
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54. Could be.
But it sounds as though he plans to be independent - voting with the Republicans when it suits his interests. The fact that a former Dem V.P. nominee would put his loyalties up for bid bothers me.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:24 AM
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55. 'Beef jerky puss' and the 'anti-Semite'
that's such a reliable source.

I want something more concrete than those two. Until then, I'm not buying it.


on note: I remember pat saying that Breaux was going to jump to the pukes in 2000. Never happened.
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L A Woman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:36 AM
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58. LIEBERMAN said he was voting with the Democrats
God, I hate these threads that just seem to be intended to get people riled up. Lieberman said no such thing. Jesus.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:43 AM
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61. Even if he does, so what?
There is Olympia Snowe from Maine. A heavy duty RINO.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:44 AM
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62. Locking.
This appears to be incorrect.
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