Two Major New Polls BOTH Skew Toward Republican w/o Mentioning in Results

[Roland99]

For the new Pew poll, the results are skewed as more respondents are Conservative and fewer are Liberal. Just look at their sampling:

http://people-press.org/reports/tables/295.pdf

Nov. 2006 (Rep/Lean Rep...Dem/Lean Dem...Other)
Conservative: 73...21... 6
Moderate: 31...58...11
Liberal: 8...82.. 9

Oct. 2006 (Rep/Lean Rep...Dem/Lean Dem...Other)
Conservative: 70...24... 6
Moderate: 23...67... 9
Liberal: 9...90... 1

For the ABC/Washington Post poll...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_110406.htm

908a. Would you say your views on most political matters are liberal, moderate, or conservative?


Liberal Moderate Conservative Don't think in those terms (vol.) op.
11/4/06 19 42 36 2 1
10/22/06 22 42 32 2 2

How convenient neither poll's skew toward Republican is noted in the poll results in the M$M, setting the stage for a closer election and making it easier to pass off another election theft by the public.

[WCGreen]

1. OMG I'm voting republican now cause PEW says it's getting

closer....

[magellan]

2. It's all too clear what they're doing and who they've got their orders from

They think they can make it true by saying it's so. They think they'll discourage Dem voters. I think this tack will only energize more people to vote. With only 18% approval, the Repug Congress is going down.

[WinkyDink]

9. "We'll create our own reality."

[Quixote1818]

3. Media is just trying to make it look like a horse race for ratings. nt

[WillyT]

6. BINGO !!!

They are trying to drive up viewership for the next couple of days by pushing the horse-race angle. Gotta pay for all those fancy new sets, and broken down anchors.

:evilgrin:

[davidwparker]

4. Good. So now Dems won't take winning the House/Senate for granted

and get out there an close the deal.

We have to turn out in numbers and make it obvious EARLY if they are going to steal another election.

[jmellman]

5. skewing reporting by ignoring sample bias

This is exactly the way that the MSM can continue the facade about being objective. It's just so convenient to overlook the sample distortion. Or maybe we're just giving all of these folks too much credit -- maybe they really just do understand their own surveys. I certainly wouldn't be surprised.

[newyawker99]

8. Hi jmellman!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[rpannier]

7. That's unusual for Pew

They are often used by both Parties and many independent groups to do polling for them because they are legitimately non-partisan.

[ProfessorGAC]

12. And, They Have, IMO, The Best Polling Methodology

I'm a little biased because i know folks who work as analysts for Pew. But, i know the differences between the methodlogies used by the major social stat houses, and ARC and Pew have the best techniques.

That being said, i think there is something wrong with this particular poll. They showed a 4% increase in Silverspoon's approval rating in 25 days. That's too big a jump. There is absolutely nothing in the trend data to indicate that any president should see a jump, absent some truly major event, in excess of 10% relative. That's a statistical abberation on the order of 1 in a 100 million. So, somebody did something wrong somewhere, in this study.

That, of course, leaves me questioning the integrity of the entire dataset.
The Professor

[Roland99]

13. Have there been any "personnel" changes at Pew?

[goforit]

10. PEW?.....Tell me what town do they work out of?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. The Percentages Of Liberals, Conservatives ,and Moderates Isn't The Problem

Their model inflates the percentage of the electorate the Republicans will comprise.

[bemildred]

14. Polls are propaganda. nt

[Eurobabe]

15. Polls are no longer what they used to be

Depending on who does them, etc. They are just marketing propaganda by the PR meisters. Same shit, different pile of spin.