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Iwasthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:45 PM
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THE FIX IS IN!
The F$#*ing media managed to magically make it appear that the important races are now a dead heat. Let the vote flipping begin. And you know it will. They can't afford to lose as they know they will then be tried. Cheating works and they have no problem with it at all. * has been doing it, and promoying it all his life.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:46 PM
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1. Oh, well, then.
Guess I'll just stay home on Tuesday. Why bother to vote if the fix is in anyhow? :sarcasm:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:52 PM
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4. Yah, me too. In fact, I got so demoralized I decided I might as well
be on the winning side for once, and so I switched my party allegiance to Republican. But I'm not gonna bother to vote, of course. The machines can take care of that for me. Automation is getting to the point that we don't have to send actual humans into either wars or elections. Just let the machines do it for us. So Wally O'Dell's little wonder machines can take care of fulfilling my civic duty for me.

As Country Joe would say,
"Whooppee, we're all gonna die."
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:53 PM
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35. GO
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:53 PM
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62. Me too. I'm not voting tomorrow. Why bother?
BECAUSE I VOTED LAST WEEK. STRAIGHT DEM TICKET, BABY!! LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!
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Iwasthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:52 PM
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6. I am not saying don't vote
In fact mass voting is all we have. With a big enough margin we can still pull this off. It will be messy but we can still do it.
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NEDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:43 PM
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30. Bullshit, by starting this thread this is exactly what you are saying
so go ahead and stay home, but the rest of us will keep working.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:54 PM
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36. GO
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:53 PM
Response to Reply #1
34. GO
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:47 PM
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2. GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV
Edited on Sun Nov-05-06 10:48 PM by LSK
There is nothing else you can do at this point. Go to your local campaign and volunteer.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:52 PM
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3. Yea so what?
VOTE IN OVERWHELMING NUMBERS ..... OVERWHELM THEM AT THE POLLS TUESDAY LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDED ON IT. We can take care of anything else after that. Peace. :)
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:13 PM
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23. Our lives DO depend on it.
If we don't snatch the country out of the hands of the facists, then half the country is going to have to move: and I don't think Canada and Europe can handle the influx of 175 - 200 million people.
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KrazyProf69 Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:46 PM
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59. Viva La Revolucion!
For tomorrow, we shall finally cast off the oppressive chains of capitalism and form a new government, one that conforms to the needs of the proletariat as opposed to the wants of the bourgeoisie! We have waited twelve years for this, and now we can finally tolerate their crimes no longer! Viva La Revolucion! Hasta La Victoria Siempre!
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Vexatious Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:52 PM
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5. And they're also secure
Edited on Sun Nov-05-06 11:02 PM by Vexatious Ape
in the fact that Lefty's, won't do anything but whine and protest after the fact and they are no longer bothered by that--it's not threatening to them. They know we're unarmed, and will not commit acts of violence over whats been done to us--to the whole fucking country. So the best thing we can do is swarm to the polls--don't listen to naysayers, just freaking vote.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:52 PM
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7. Thanks ever so for your timely post ...
... which could serve NO OTHER PURPOSE than to discourage Democrats from going out to vote.

If you thought this post would accomplish ANYTHING ELSE, I would really love to hear what that 'something else' might be.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:57 PM
Response to Reply #7
12. Exactly. One more post like the OP and I think I'll scream.
Edited on Sun Nov-05-06 10:57 PM by ocelot
Nevertheless I, for one, am not demoralized by this sort of BS. I plan to be doing some GOTV stuff tomorrow and engage in as much un-demoralizing activity as possible. Absolutely no purpose is served by assuming a negative outcome. That's just chickenshit.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:02 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. Meet me here on Tuesday night for the celebration ...
... I'll be in the "Fuck the Naysayers" section.

:toast:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:05 PM
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16. Strange Nance, But For The Last Week I've Been Posting As Many...
positive stories as I could find about this election. After a few return replies of encouragement, they disappear from view.

I guess for many here, it's all about the drama.

And in that way, we mimic the MSM in an, "If it bleeds, it leads!", sort of way.

Good news, unless you can guarantee the outcome, is tossed off the bandwagon with nary a sigh.

:shrug::hi::shrug:

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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:01 AM
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42. well WillyT
*I* had your back on those posts.

As cynical as I am about these scheming corporatists, I try to have hope. Hasn't worked out well yet, but just might this time.

One thing, nobody will establish a discussion for a goal and plan of action in case there is election fraud. The OP is right, the media is inserting a basis to buy the BS result. And he says that we must vote overwhelmingly. Failing that, what...??? I don't feel it's negative to have a plan in case the worst happens again. It's proactive.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:02 AM
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43. I have a plan - GO
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #43
44. been there and LOVE that thread, thanks
I'll post. Thanks HH.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:05 AM
Response to Reply #44
46. thank you - and if you have a webcam, be prepared - we're going to be
the media!

:hi:
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:57 AM
Response to Reply #46
54. no have, gotted robbed during kitchen remodel
:cry:
LOL

and I keep donating to the frontline groups and candidates doing the heavy lifting.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #43
64. self-delete
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 07:27 PM by Artiechoke
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:15 AM
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48. Yes You Did, And Thank You...
I agree completely. Be positive, but be prepared.

We can do both here. I just hope everybody is.

:shrug:
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:21 AM
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51. I've been noticing that the 'positive' threads do die young ...
... but if you'll notice the view count on many threads, you'll see that they are not going unread or ignored.

I think it's just a matter of seeing (positive) posts you agree with, and then moving on without comment. On the other hand, seeing yet another the-fix-is-in post gets you pissed-off enough to stop long enough to type a "give-me-a-fuckin'-break" response.

In these crazy down-to-the-wire days, a lot of us have the attention span of the average gnat. Unresponded-to does not mean not-agreed-with.

And I'll bet you're now wondering if I can come up with yet another linked-by-hyphens phrase -- and I can:

"The-Democrats-are-about-to-win-big-time-so-get-used-to-it."

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:31 AM
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52. I Won't Try To Top That... It Can't Be Done !!!
:bounce::yourock::bounce:
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:12 PM
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20. And if he'd said we would win big time hands down...

...he'd be trying to make Dem voters passive?

Can we get past this? Nothing I read here on DU is going to stop me from going to the polls, and if it stops anyone else, shame on them. Moreover not one of the leaders, such as exist, of voting integrity movements say anything other than "the surest way to NOT have your vote counted is to fail to show up and cast a ballot." I saw one say it last night on the MSM. People that care about this issue enough to open a thread on it, care enough to vote, no matter what.

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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:48 PM
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31. I agree with what you've said ...
... "Nothing I read here on DU is going to stop me from going to the polls, and if it stops anyone else, shame on them."

However, anything that starts with "The Fix Is In" equates to "Don't Bother Voting". I think the VAST majority of DUers are onto this, and won't be taken in.

I just question what could possibly be gained saying something like 'the fix is in', especially now. If it has ANY effect at all - even on one lazy fence-sitter - it is destructive rather than constructive.

And I think we can all agree on which is the better course.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #7
37. GO
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:53 PM
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8. That's why we do NOT STOP!
55% is much harder to fake a win!!!

OVERWHELMING FORCE!

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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:53 PM
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9. One has to wonder if Republicans are secretly planting "the fix is in"...
to stop Democrats from turning out to vote.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:08 PM
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18. Rove is the King of This Shit!!!
He's throwing every turd at the wall to see what might stick. Tuesday night, he'll be pooped...

We have to THROW EVERYTHING we have at this one!!!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:54 PM
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38. GO
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:55 PM
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10. we are going to win the house for sure, and the senate is a tossup
I don't know what you are smoking, but you better get a reality check


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mshasta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 10:57 PM
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11. I DON'T CARE....
BRING IT ON!!....TUESDAY MY VOTE WILL BE DEMOCRAT!!!
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:00 PM
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13. WE ARE GOING TO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!
GOOD will prevail over EVIL this time! Those bastards are done.....they are NOT going to run this country into the ground any further! PHUCK THE GOPERVERTS! They can ALL rot in hell as far as I'M concerned!
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LaCrosseDem Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:02 PM
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14. Well at least I can get some yard work done Tuesday.
Then I'll go to bed while the$%%@#* Repubs celebrate yet again. God I'm going to need to up my anti depressant. I wasted about $1K and (between my wife and I) about 20 nights on this election. And with a newborn and a toddler. I feel like such a fekkin' sucker!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:55 PM
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39. GO
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:56 PM
Response to Reply #39
63. helderheid
:yourock:
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:07 PM
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17. Why are you even listening to the MSM!!?? As long
as they are owned by mighty corporations and weapons manufacturers, they will never serve you!!!
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:11 PM
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19. ROTFLMAO!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:12 PM
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21. *sigh*
This has to stop. ALL THE MAJOR POLITICAL PUNDITS HAVE ALREADY SAID THE DEMS WILL WIN THE HOUSE BY AT LEAST 25-30 SEATS AND MAY VERY WELL WIN THE SENATE, BUT IT COULD END UP A TIE.

They are going to be "tried" no matter what they do in this election. Their game is UP.

GO DEMS!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:13 PM
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22. So, are you posting a "Call To Action" or a "Call To Inaction"?
Edited on Sun Nov-05-06 11:20 PM by TahitiNut
Just what, exactly, do you propose that's not ALREADY being done? What's your fucking point?

I suppose I've run out of patience with Chicken Little running around my barnyard yelling "the sky is falling" and not even offering umbrellas. So, maybe we can get a few things straight.

(1) No matter how many folks fall off the turnip truck and 'discover' something that others have known for quite some time, this is not news. There are people, many on DU, who are doing everything they know how to deal with election fraud issues. It'd probably be more productive to engage in discussions regarding those efforts than run in screaming "The New Telephone Books Are Here! The New Telephone Books Are Here!"

(2) The polls will be closing in less than 48 hours. Unless there's something relevant to the issues and people at stake in that election, and some positive suggestion to better exert efforts in that regard, I'm doubtful that disruption of such attention is of any merit whatsoever.

(3) Is it at all unreasonable to expect that someone who identifies a problem offer some kind of proposal to deal with that problem and when? I don't think so.


On edit: Let's ALL try to remember that orderly and lawful civil action is NEVER the last resort. When every civil action is insufficient and the People are prevented from exerting their sovereignty over their own governance, then civil disobedience all the way up to and including bloody revolution are ALWAYS possible. It's said that a lawful election in a democratic society is a "slow motion" revolution. When it fails, the "fast motion" variety still exists. Indeed, the very threat of such an eventuality is the ONLY thing that keeps wannabe despots looking over their shoulders.

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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:31 PM
Response to Reply #22
28. And TahitiNut NAILS it
Well said.

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Dunedain Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:02 PM
Response to Reply #22
65. It's the cans! Someone hates the oil cans! n/t
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:15 PM
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24. Anyone see my sneakers?
I just finished clipping my toenails....damn, I thought I left them in the living room.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:27 PM
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25. Your slippers are beside the back door but don't ask me where you left your sneakers.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:28 PM
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26. Great, so you're telling me I wasted 3 hours of my life canvassing today?
:eyes:
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:31 PM
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27. Right.. Right.. Right...
Please take your demoralizing elsewhere.

We have an election to win.

Perhaps that since you're being so negative about this, you will be ever happier on Wednesday. Maybe then, we can put an end to all this defeatism.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:43 PM
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29. Oh Henny Penny, good gracious, golly. Cut the hysteria. n/t
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:50 PM
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32. Uh, ok...Mr."Concern"
Yeah, sure, we'll just go by your word and not bother voting.

(Hint: Your attempt is not going to work.)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #32
40. GO!
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:52 PM
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33. good grief, relax
and stop posting such inflamatory stuff.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:56 PM
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41. GO
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #41
45. I think you should stop that.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:10 AM
Response to Reply #45
47. Oh really.
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 12:10 AM by helderheid
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:20 AM
Response to Reply #47
49. Yes, really. You're spamming the forum,.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:20 AM
Response to Reply #49
50. edited to remove my snarkiness - READ the link and then come talk
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 12:41 AM by helderheid
to me
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 12:44 AM
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53. Just make sure you do all you can to get everyone to get out the vote!
That's all we can do right now...And if we do...the inevitable republican stealing will be at a minimum and we can expose it immediately.

GET OUT THE VOTE!

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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 01:23 AM
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55. I love The Fixx!
Great band!

Crying parents tell their children
If you survive don't do as we did
A son exclaims there'll be nothing to do to
Her daughter says she'll be dead with you
While foreign affairs are screwing us rotten
Line morale has hit rock bottom
Dying embers stand forgotten
Talks of peace were being trodden

Stand or fall state your peace tonight
Stand or fall state your peace tonight

Is this the value of our existence
Should we proclaim with such persistence
Our destiny relies on conscience
Red or blue what's the difference

Stand or fall state your peace tonight
Stand or fall state your peace tonight...
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #55
60. Red Skies at Night!!!!
Reach the Beach

Great Political Band!!!
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 09:58 AM
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56. Nothing will stop the L A N D S L I D E ! ! !
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 09:59 AM
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57. Fugg the fugging fix
Vote. Whip them Dems.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:00 AM
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58. Ack! You got lost! I'll help you get back home!
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:52 PM
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61. Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!


Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Ohhhhhhhhhhh NOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!



Oh.... Noooooooooooooooooooooo!



...well, that was productive.

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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:36 PM
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66. Locking.
Let's continue this discussion on Wednesday if necessary.

Thanks.
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