***RED ALERT*** WHAT COULD BE MORE IMPORTANT - *** EVERYONE HERE SHOULD READ THIS (PLEASE)

[BigBearJohn]

... found this on huffingtonpost.com

BUSH ADMIN POSTED NUCLEAR BOMB BUILDING GUIDE ON INTERNET…

We have lost nearly 3,000 of our beloved soldiers because of the threat of Iraq having WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION

and NOW the Bush administration is fucking PUBLISHING "nuclear bombs for dummies" on the internet??????

I mean, why the HELL aren't we just drop shipping 'nukular' manuals into Iran, Iraq and Syria?

Holy shit. Do we realize the significance of this?!!@#$!!! If we don't jump on this with everything

we got -- then we DESERVE everything we get.


By WILLIAM J. BROAD
Last March, the federal government set up a Web site to make public a vast archive of Iraqi documents captured during the war. The Bush administration did so under pressure from Congressional Republicans who had said they hoped to “leverage the Internet” to find new evidence of the prewar dangers posed by Saddam Hussein.

But in recent weeks, the site has posted some documents that weapons experts say are a danger themselves: detailed accounts of Iraq’s secret nuclear research before the 1991 Persian Gulf war. The documents, the experts say, constitute a basic guide to building an atom bomb.

Last night, the government shut down the Web site after The New York Times asked about complaints from weapons experts and arms-control officials. A spokesman for the director of national intelligence said access to the site had been suspended “pending a review to ensure its content is appropriate for public viewing.”

Officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency, fearing that the information could help states like Iran develop nuclear arms, had privately protested last week to the American ambassador to the agency, according to European diplomats who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the issue’s sensitivity. One diplomat said the agency’s technical experts “were shocked” at the public disclosures.

The documents, roughly a dozen in number, contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that nuclear experts who have viewed them say go beyond what is available elsewhere on the Internet and in other public forums. For instance, the papers give detailed information on how to build nuclear firing circuits and triggering explosives, as well as the radioactive cores of atom bombs. (emphasis added)

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/world/middleeast/03documents.html?ei=5094&en=8326da2ccc77699e&hp=&ex=1162616400&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print

[Guaranteed]

1. ROFL!!! MY GOD, THE REPUKES ARE GOING TO CATCH HELL

FOR THIS!!!

[indepat]

56. 'pukes are in the midst of a thermonuclear implosion as their monstrous deeds,

malfeasance, incompetence, and pious sanctimonious reichous hypocrisy are finally about to be exposed. To all that expose them :patriot:

[treestar]

61. LOL, they must apologize to our troops!

[cascadiance]

69. Not if the corporate media can help it ('er them!)!!!

[corkhead]

91. Shame on the NYT for telling everybody that the admin had posted this info.

:sarcasm:

[Hosnon]

2. Yep...who's to say that this isn't the reason N. Korea got the bomb? nt

[Richard Steele]

13. The timing would actually be just right, wouldn't it? nm

[upi402]

15. A Q Khan was a BushCo tool

:silly: :crazy:
These Republicans hate our freedom don't they?

[file83]

3. So that site just went down last night?

This is unfucking believable. What next?

[Tellurian]

It pays to advertize...Business must be worse than we thought..

Bush and Cheney are losing money?

[babylonsister]

4. I thought I was beyond disgust; I was wrong, but I'm not surprised. nt

[merh]

5. Some how, some way, they will blame Clenis.

Clenis is always responsible for their fuck ups. :grr:

What idiots, how I hate what they have done to this nation and in this world. :(

[RevolutionStartsNow]

7. Remember, Al Gore invented the Internets

It's all his fault!

This is nuts, I wonder how they will spin it...

[adamuu]

66. yeah but it was just a dump truck at the time n/t

[David__77]

6. Stress - PRE-1991 nuclear research!

This has NOTHING to do with post-Gulf War ALLEGED activities by Iraq.

[Kagemusha]

9. Right, it's long since of no use to Saddam. Iran though? Hmm...

Sounds like the sort of information the Bush admin says needed to be scrubbed from every other part of the government and the internet...

[meuniermr]

8. If anything will kick off Impeachment later this will be it!

Even sold their soul to the devil neocons will have to consider that their personal safety is being threatened after this. Being kicked out of congress/whatever with whatever blackmail info bushco has on them vs. dying in a fire... tough call for them.

[BigBearJohn]

10. This is so UNBELIEVABLY HUGE, that I'm having heart palpitations.

[Phrogman]

14. Gave me a rush of "gooseflesh"!

Or "chickenskin" for you Southerners.

[civildisoBDence]

128. Oh mah Lawd, I've got the VAPORS!

The desperation of the BushHogs is getting so obvious it's hard to deny.

That didn't stop Hannity from calling the war in Iraq a "massive success" today.

Newsprism

[Phrogman]

11. This is DOWNRIGHT SCARY AND UNACCEPTABLE!

Holy Shit!

And it was all WRITTEN IN ARABIC!!!

EVERY INTERNET CAFE IN THE MIDDLE EAST HAD DIAGRAMS AND INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO MAKE AN ATOMIC BOMB, IN ARABIC, PROVIDED BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.

[BlueStorm]

18. So Bush pretty much handed the gun to the people that want

to see us dead? How totally idiotic. This is beyond impeccable and if this doesn't call for impeachment, then I don't know what will.

Blue

[slaveplanet]

30. Have you not seen the old

western movies?

Bad guy just gets thrown from his horse, In steps Sheriff John Wayne, he throws down the revolver..."Go ahead,...Pick it up"

[WinkyDink]

70. Uh, no, never saw that.

[slaveplanet]

80. well it it doesn't

have to be a Wayne movie, could be one of the hundreds of others.
Could be "Dirty Harry" ...pick up that damn gun so I can blow your frickin head off. Same thing here, the story never changes...

[Frustratedlady]

113. We strive to serve!

You didn't expect them to have to learn English before they could read it, did you? Come on...........give them a break!

Pretty damned incredible, isn't it? They could save us all a lot of money and concede the election.

[alittlelark]

12. B*sh likes BOOMS.... BiG BOOOOOOOMS

B*sh likes boooooooms

[samfishX]

16. Whatever

10:1 odds says that the "liberal" media says something to this extent:
"A lot of this information was widey available already on the internet. Does it really even make a difference if our enemies found this new information?"

Gotta keep that balance, after all! Otherwise, the extremist right might BITCH some more about them being so liberal...

[BigBearJohn]

21. My roommate said the same thing til I read this part of the article:

The documents, roughly a dozen in number, contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that nuclear experts who have viewed them say go beyond what is available elsewhere on the Internet and in other public forums. For instance, the papers give detailed information on how to build nuclear firing circuits and triggering explosives, as well as the radioactive cores of atom bombs

I called a friend of mine who used to be a big shot in the service and read him the part about firing circuits... he said,
"oh my God. Holy shit. This is BIG"

[Breeze54]

147. That's not all...Nuclear Lab Breach Could Be 'Devastating'

Nuclear Lab Breach Could Be 'Devastating'

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/03/national/main2151021.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_2151021

Nov. 3, 2006

(CBS)

The recent security breach at Los Alamos National Laboratory was very serious,
with sensitive materials being taken out of the facility -- possibly
including information on how to deactivate locks on nuclear weapons,
officials tell CBS News.

Officials say there is no evidence the information taken from Los Alamos was sold
or transferred to anybody else, but there is no way to be sure right now.

...Multiple sources now tell CBS News that the material includes sensitive weapons-design data.

A federal official who has been briefed on the issue said at least three USB thumb-drives
were involved. Those small storage drives contained 408 separate classified documents ranging
in importance from Secret National Security Information (pertaining to intelligence)
to Secret Restricted Data (pertaining to nuclear weapons).

... one federal official recently briefed on the issue says "It's devastating."

If a nuclear weapon were stolen, the information
"would tell the terrorists everything they need to do to get a weapon to fire."

[Phrogman]

17. Could there be a mirror for the web pages that were pulled?

I'd like to see just exactly what these looked like.

[redacted]

26. Cached on Google? Anybody here read Arabic?

[NMMNG]

19. But the Republicans is gonna keep us safe from terrorists.

:sarcasm:

[Sad4world]

20. Not hard to figure why they put this online

Gotta keep the Corporate/Industrial War Machine going.

Teach everyone how to build big bombs and Shrub and friends can keep up the Terrorist/Fear going. We've got to bankrupt America to keep "them" over there.

Bombs and Bibles, Kill and Pray, Rupug mantra.

[sandnsea]

22. Heckuva job - who gets a medal? n/t

[Guaranteed]

23. Classic. Someone in our leadership oughta use that one... nt

[redacted]

THEY DELIBERATELY POSTED THIS SO THE TERRORISTS COULD USE IT???

The party of "morals" is full of pagefuckers. Now we find out that the party that claims to be protecting us from terrorists just showed them, along with every other wacko on the planet who reads Arabic, how to build an atomic weapon?

They've just lost the Senate.

[Brundle_Fly]

28. NO DON'T BE SILLY...

they posted this to let nation states create nukes.

they posted the other documents about tabun and sarin for terrorists.


:sarcasm:

[redacted]

33. LOL!

[redacted]

35. WE NEED A WEEKEND FULL OF "MUSHROOM CLOUD" TV ADS! ARE YOU DEM MEDIA CONSULTANTS PAYING ATTENTION?

[BigBearJohn]

44. self delete

self delete

[Land Shark]

132. No, they posted it so we are guaranteed to be fearful forever for the perm war effort

[Life Long Dem]

24. And wiretapping is for what again? nt

[Canuckistanian]

25. Hmmm, Peter Hoekstra.....

Wasn't he the one who presented "evidence" of long expired WMD's (with Santorum, of course)?

He seems to be the one ultimately responsible for setting up the website.

I'd like to see Freepers calling for treason charges against him.

[uncle ray]

45. "giggle"

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/iraq/060330a.aspx


this story was from april of this year:


CBN.com – WASHINGTON - Earlier this month, the Bush administration began releasing some of the two million classified documents captured by U.S. forces in postwar Iraq and Afghanistan.

Considering what they have already revealed, it has left many wondering why it took so long to open them up.

But critics soon may need to re-think their barbs, thanks to the release of Saddam's secret documents.

Republican Congressman Peter Hoekstra (R-MI) is chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. He remarked, "There are still a lot of key individuals who have never been interviewed, there's been a lot of sites that have never been investigated, and there have been lots of documents that have never been translated.”

He led the fight on Capitol Hill to have the documents released to the public.

“We know that Saddam had a systemic approach in place to destroy a lot of the documents. These are the things that he missed,” Hoekstra said.






good ol CBN!

:rofl:

[elehhhhna]

86. DIT translators? WTF? Maybe they should REHIRE SIBEL EDMONDS?!!

[bklyncowgirl]

47. I do hope he has an opponent in this election.

He or she should start measuring the drapes right about now.

[slaveplanet]

27. Why didn't everyone raise a stink

when the same thing(and probably the exact same documents in this current revelation) happened in 2005? :shrug:

Obeidi escaped the fate of his former boss when the CIA intervened with the Army and got him released. Knowing that he was a marked man, he decided that his only hope was to go public. He consented to an interview with CNN, and soon afterward the CIA whisked him and his family off to Kuwait, where he underwent weeks of interrogations.

On June 26, the CIA posted a press release about Obeidi's cache -- the most valuable WMD evidence the U.S. has yet obtained in Iraq -- on its official website. It also put up digital photos of the components and even one of the key centrifuge diagrams. The pictures, which Albright says could be "incredibly useful" to any regime trying to start a covert nuclear program, were online for almost a week -- long enough to be downloaded and made freely available on the Internet -- before the agency took them down. Literally buried for 12 years, some of Saddam's hoard of nuclear knowledge got out because of the U.S. government, not in spite of it.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2005/09/armageddon-2.html

[tblue]

29. It's all over the news! Houston, Seattle, WaPo, Reuters, on & on! Look!

http://news.google.com/?ncl=http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1152AP_Iraq_Documents.html&hl=en

Print media gets it!

[walldude]

31. Tommorow, is going to be a good day.

Lets see Rove spin this one. :woohoo:

[Old and In the Way]

32. By stupidity or by design?

9/11?
WMD?
Valerie Plame?
Katrina?

When do these people get tried for treason?

[walldude]

34. You know what this reminds me of?

You ever see the remake of The Thing? Where a guys head pops off, grows 8 legs and scurrys off, and another dude is just looking at it going, "You gotta be fucking kidding me." That's what this reminds me of.

[BigBearJohn]

36. They are ALREADY SPINNING IT. Check this out:

NYT and IAEA slam Bush in pre-election meaneuver

Not for the first time, the IAEA is teaming up with the New York Times to embarrass Bush on the even of an election. I seem to recall that the International Atomic Energy Agency (a United Nations Agency known by the acronymn “IAEA”) had previously tried an election eve gambit (also with the cooperation of the NYT) . Specifically, the IAEA claimed that negligence on the part of the US led to the looting of tons of high explosive in Iraq. Supposedly, under US guard, these explosives had gone missing. The Pentagon was later able to deflate this “expose” by showing that the Hussein regime had already moved this stockpile of explosives before the invasion by coalition forces. Back then, the UN was accused of meddling in the US Presidential election; now it and its partner The New York Times is once again attempting to influence American elections by casting aspersions on the competency of a Republican Administration.

Certainly there’s no love lost beween the Bush Administration and Mohammed El-Baradei, the feckless leader of the IAEA, that the Administration had hoped to replace after his term expired. The New York Times, true to form, has used its franchise for partisan purposes.

SOURCE: http://www.americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=6518

[Cetacea]

41. let then spin...

...the people don't seem to buying the bullshit anymore.

[Rocknrule]

106. They would literally rather get us nuked

than hear one fucking word against their precious party
:argh:

[Cetacea]

37. potentially explosive! eom

[BigBearJohn]

38. Exactly

[Cetacea]

40. Hey BBJ

Good to "see" you again.


House AND Senate.

[BigBearJohn]

42. Thanks bud. House&Senate! House&Senate! Go team!

[ddbaj]

39. TOMORROW AT WORK/SCHOOL

Tell this to everyone! Kicked!

[BluePatriot]

43. OMG

this is criminal stupidity. Tell everyone! How...just....arrrrrrrrgh

[GeorgeGist]

46. Are they stupid on purpose?

"Officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency, fearing that the information could help states like Iran develop nuclear arms, had privately protested last week to the American ambassador to the agency, according to European diplomats who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the issue’s sensitivity"

[MadHound]

48. Oh please, calm down and untwist your panties

The information on how to build a bomb has been out there, freely available in libraries across the country for years and decades now, if you knew what you were doing. Hell, back in the seventies a kid from Ohio ginned up a working model of a bomb as a high school project from information he acquired from various local libraries. Yes, the Pentagon, NRC, DOE and others freaked, but they also said that the kid had done such a good job that all he need was some plutonium.

Whether or not Bush put this info out there is immaterial. If a person really wanted to build a bomb, and had training in nuclear physics, they could do so whether or not these documents were released. Yes, the irony is delicious, but the threat is overblown. You would have to remove virtually every single bit of information on nuclear physics if you are that worried, and frankly that's not going to happen.

[blitzburgh55]

50. Not according to this.....

The documents, roughly a dozen in number, contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that nuclear experts who have viewed them say go beyond what is available elsewhere on the Internet and in other public forums. For instance, the papers give detailed information on how to build nuclear firing circuits and triggering explosives, as well as the radioactive cores of atom bombs.

[MadHound]

51. It might be that these are fairly sophisticated circuits, etc.

But having worked in the nuclear industry, knowing what is freely available in the public arena, I stand by my statement. If it wasn't illegal, I would be willing to bet a great deal of money that I could build a bomb within a year using only publicly available documents. Hell, if you have a decent size university nearby, go stroll through their nuclear physics section in their library and see just how detailed these matters get. Again, it isn't the knowlege, or lack there of that is preventing people from building a bomb, it is lack of plutonium that is keeping the bombs out of the hands of ordinary citizens. Hell, go look at the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs, they are really quite simple instruments.

Again, this is the price we pay for letting out the nuclear genie.

[file83]

82. Right - but if you set up a website as a CENTRAL REPOSITORY on "how to"

build a nuclear bomb, umm... I'm pretty sure you'd be getting a call from the Department of Homeland Security. Wouldn't you say?

The point is, it is COMPLETELY counter productive to the National Security of the United States to be HELPING and potentially removing any final technical obstacles terrorists might have in their attempts to build a nuclear bomb. That's the point.

You may "think" you can build an effective nuclear device, but you know (if you claim to be an engineer/physicist of some sort) that you ALWAYS run into technical obstacles/challenges that were unforeseen when building something with any level of complexity.

So for the US Government to be posting data on the internet that could help you iron out those obstacles, if you were a terrorist under, say a "deadline"... that would be kind of umm... DANGEROUS to us all.

[treestar]

60. But the average person cannot understand it, and anybody who

can likely already knows all that.

[deaniac21]

96. This same information was already dispersed to the member

states of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) which number 142 including Iran.

[NoSheep]

74. But that information was not put there by this particular administration

who constantly shouts that we are safer under their protection! That is the difference. So, "Oh Please"...realize this is another blatent example of what a bunch of idiots there are in this administration and that can only help the Democrats in our efforts to regain some balance and sanity in our government. That IS what you want, right?

[MadHound]

87. And when the blowback from all this faux hysteria comes back at us

Will you think it is such a good idea then that such a big deal was made of this issue? Man, start thinking like a chess master, three-ten moves ahead. Rove and his ilk are masters of this, which is why we've been getting our asses handed to us for the past few elections. High time some folks on this side of the political divide started doing the same.

[spoony]

97. Yeah really. The "secret" of nuclear weapons has been

out of the bag for about 50 years. The barrier for people wanting to build a nuke is not how to do it, but how to get the materials. I'm as anti-proliferation as anybody and this story raised little more than a shrug from me. It's another example of the misadministration's stupidity, yeah, but as far as being really dangerous, well they do worse stuff daily than this.

[Cobalt Violet]

49. K & R bigtime.

[opihimoimoi]

52. K&R

a Hawaiian :kick:

[rosesaylavee]

53. Thank g*d 'PUBLICANS can handle security issues

better than the DEMs. :sarcasm:

[Vinca]

54. Every Democrat in the country who is running for office needs

to whip out a new commercial based on this information. The Republicans cannot be trusted to do anything and it's apparent just how dangerous they are. Quite frankly, I never suspected their incompetency could seep to such low levels - or should I say high levels? It's very frightening.

[focusfan]

55. Bush should be liable for this

he should be put in Prison

[eliphaiku]

57. Wait

I would like to rejoice, but this story is impossible.

Bush/Cheney LIED about the nuclear threat from Bagdad. They probably just made these documents up anyway, the way they make up so much else.

Don't be gullible people. The NYT is part of corporate media. This is a repig backdoor scheme to get people to unwittingly admit that Iraq was a genuine nuclear threat.

IT WASN'T. Iraq never had this capacity!

Bushco LIED!!!

[WinkyDink]

71. These documents are likely NOT "made up".

[eliphaiku]

75. Why?

What reason do you have to believe that BushCo docs are genuine?

I wish we would be in the habit of seeing a few moves ahead. BushCo LIED about the Iraqi threat. Isn't it awfully CONVENIENT that the NYT would publish a story corroborating a repig rationale only days before the election?

Think about it. This does not help us!

[Strelnikov_]

77. I Have No Doubt That Iraq Had Some People Working On Bomb Design

If you were a Dictator surrounded by enemies, wouldn't you?

Thing is, the production of bomb grade fissionable material is the key. All the Engineers and Technicians you have scouring 'the Google' on 'the Internets', or trading A.Q. Khan a signed first draft of one of your porn novels, for some early bomb designs does not a threat make.

Using this as a justification for invading Iraq is like justifying blowing your neighbors head off because you found a blog entry on 'the Internets' that indicated he didn't like you.

[laundry_queen]

93. I dipped my head into a cesspool of freepers

not at FR, but another site, and this (Evidence of WMD) is exactly how they are spinning it:" SEE, I TOLD you he (SH) was close to a nuclear bomb! This is PROOF. Only a year away and he'd have nuked us all! God bless GWB for invading Iraq and SAVING us from this madman. "
:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
There seriously is NO hope for these people.

[eliphaiku]

116. Exactly

I am dismayed by the ease with which people here are accepting this story as true.

We just spent the last several years uncovering the lie that the Iraqis were a threat, then one NYT piece that purports to make HaliBush look dopey, and everyone abandons a hard won position.

[grizmaster]

58. key quote- "President Bush approved the site’s creation"

nuff said

[treestar]

59. You mean they have WMD? Invade! This is hugh!!!!1111

[jarnocan]

62. sure buy according to the MSM/TV: the release of the news was politically motivated

so it doesn't count right? Shame on the NYTs. What right do we have to know the truth before elections?

[atommom]

63. I find this hilarious, given how secretive the administration usually is.

There are reams of innocuous (and not-so-innocuous) information we're no longer allowed to see, but nuke instructions are A-OK. Did they not read and translate everything before posting it?

[annabanana]

64. Way to GO, "security" guys, really. . . Dear Agent Mike:

Are you beginning to see who the enemy is? You and your colleagues better do your patriotic duty, or we're ALL sunk!

[PATRICK]

65. If only we had LBJ again

THIS time it is legitimate! A picture of the mushroom cloud etc. A little child cruising the atomic info site in split screen with more interested adults taking notes. While bragging about fighting terrorism the WH intenret site released never before details to the world on - HOW TO CONSTRUCT A BOMB.

Will we wait until the day after to hold them accountable? Vote Novemebr 7th.

Hardly a cheap shot considering.

[sqarebis]

67. Bush is an idiot

What a moron

[walldude]

68. Kick...

This thread isn't going anywhere!

[Exiled in America]

72. I think it was deliberately done. (n/t)

[AspenRose]

76. Me too.

eom

[npincus]

73. in the ARABIC language, no less

pretty user-friendly to our oft-stated Islamo-fascist enemies, no?

[Joanne98]

121. HAHAHA! Oh God they're such morans. You can't make this shit up.

[Seabiscuit]

78. .

[Seabiscuit]

79. These friggin' morans can't get anything right.

[Beelzebud]

81. Democrats need to HAMMER them on this one.

...But will we see even 1 remark from them?

[Imagevision]

83. Last March, the federal government set up this Web site - Rove has snapped!!

[blm]

89. Rove is SO POLITICAL he's STUPID. And so is the entire GOP.

.

[Mojekearthe]

84. I had saved the entire site...

...using my spidering program. I knew there was a liklihood that the shit would hit the fan, so I was able to do it in only 17 minutes. Interestingly, when I tried to access the site half an hour later, the plug was pulled. There are literally hundreds of pages that are entirely in arabic, but I haven't determined my next plan of action.

To be fair, there isn't that much imaging or charting, it's mostly text. Howevever, I will save this as evidence to use against the republican criminals who authorized this treasonous assault on our citizenry in the first place. Perhaps I can find some enterprising local Arab interpreters who will help with the translation of the pages.

[slaveplanet]

99. are you being serious?

If you are, you might want to have some of those checked out by Kurt Pitzer or David Albright to see if they're the same documents they were being shown in Baghdad back in 2003.

[sandnsea]

137. We really need dates

I understand this was from the program that the IAEA already knew about in the early 90's, NOT information obtained after Clinton's 1998 bombing. That's the most important thing to verify. Is it all in Arabic??

[Mojekearthe]

145. Yes, it's all in Arabic , I believe Farsi to be specific

I have one Arabic friend coming over tomorrow, and we will go over the documents. Now, most of the documents are kind of vague, missing text that even I can tell. There are about 20 pages with diagrams, some of which look similar to energy creation, if not nuclear then some conversion formulae.

I frankly think this is a tempest in a teapot. Looks as if the criminal republicans are milking this for all its worth.

[sandnsea]

146. I'll be interested to hear n/t

[Hubert Flottz]

85. Gawd helps the decider decide!

Sex Drugs and Armageddon anyone?

[Norquist Nemesis]

88. Franken's talking about it now on his show. First thing! n/t

[ms liberty]

90. K&R - I am speechless...

The inabililty of these people to make responsible, ethical, decisions critical to the well-being and survival of us all as a nation is horrifying. It's also terrifying and infuriating. What were they thinking? Yet in a way I am completely unsurprised; this administration and the congressional leadership have done little except promote chaos and destruction since 2001. From the divisions and hatred here at home between Americans over their beliefs, to the danger and instability due to agression and war, their every decision has created less safety, harmony or peace.

[Initech]

92. Anyone else think the news of Pastor Ted was too well timed?

I mean think about it - this is a huge fucking bombshell. This is downright treasonous.

So what happens? A priest is caught fucking a male prostitute. Big deal. All to get us talking about THAT and not about THIS. Unbelievable. This is clearly an example of "taking one for the team" (no pun intended).

[understandinglife]

94. TREASON. Totally. They intentionally endangered our Republic.

Never forget: BU$H IS A TRAITOR.

[rman]

95. Isn't that covered by incompetence theory?

Which states that you can get away with anything by claiming that you didn't know, or that you don't remember..

[mom cat]

98. Thanks. I feel so much safer now knowing that the Repukes have spilled ths nuclear beans.

[photogirl12]

100. K&R!!!

[redqueen]

101. These bastards ... they want more war.

I'd be willing to bet this was intentional...

Weren't they hoping N. Korea would test a nuke?

How far is that from them hoping some terrorist will do some damage here, using instructions these bastards so helpfully provided?

[Clinton Crusader]

102. This too shall pass...

Like Boehner's comments. If it's a PUKE thing, it sails on by; if it's a Dem, i.e. Kerry, it's the end all be all..
:eyes:

[Joe Chi Minh]

103. Until I read about this, I'd thought the claim that the fundies want to

precipitate the Parousia, sounded pretty fanciful. Now, it sounds like the only plausible "rationale" for their behaviour.

[SammyWinstonJack]

104. knr

:yoiks:

[twenty4blackbirds]

105. Friday, 22 March, 2002, 17:13 GMT

US tightens controls on websites
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1888387.stm

Very clever.

[raysr]

107. The way it reads on Google News NYT

"Saddam 1 year away from nuke".

[Rocknrule]

108. Yea, but think how much more danger we'd be in with Dems in charge!

:sarcasm:

[Qutzupalotl]

109. Talk about playing politics with national security.

This would be ridiculous if it weren't so reckless with all our safety.

[berni_mccoy]

110. This thread CAN'T BE KICKED ENOUGH! K&R

[Lefta Dissenter]

111. K & R

I can't even think of a comment that hasn't been made, so I'm just a kickin' and a recommendin'

...unbefrickinlievable...

[Jeroen]

112. K&R

[walldude]

114. Kicking the 1000 Haggard threads down.... n/t

[emulatorloo]

115. kick n/t

[BigBearJohn]

117. I'm sorry for using a profanity in the subject line of this thread. I was upset.

I have asked Skinner to removed the profanity.
However, I feel the whole subject is profane.

[walldude]

118. No apologies BBJ, whats profane is I have to keep kicking

this because of all the Haggard threads :toast:

[Uncle Joe]

119. Kicked and recommended n/t

[Joanne98]

120. Republicans have to have an enemy at all times....

They were probably worried about running out of them in the future. They're just planning ahead. (sarcasm)

[kestrel91316]

122. Red Alert indeed.

Have I mentioned yet today how much I hate these people?

[redacted]

123. Geez, CAN'T KICK ENOUGH

[BigBearJohn]

124. Brown Statement on Unconscionable Publication of Documents that Could Help Terrorists

AMHERST - U.S. Congressman Sherrod Brown (D-OH) today released the following statement regarding troubling reports that the Senate Intelligence Committee pushed to publish materials that experts described as a "road map" for terrorists and rogue nations looking to build nuclear weapons in a failed attempt to find evidence of WMD already proven not to exist.

"Senator DeWine missed nearly half of the public Intelligence Committee meetings and failed to read the National Intelligence Estimate for nearly six months, which made me question his commitment to keeping us safe," said Brown. "The news that he did nothing to prevent the publication of information that could help terrorists create a nuclear weapon makes me question his judgment. There's nothing intelligent about posting materials on the Internet that could aid terrorists, and it's appalling that the rationale for doing so was an attempt to prove the existence of WMD that weren't there. All Americans deserve better than Senators who put partisanship and PR schemes before keeping our country safe, which is why Ohioans are going to vote for a change next week."

http://sherrodbrown.com/press/releases/880/

[BigBearJohn]

125. ON HARDBALL RIGHT NOW! "NUKE SECRETS POSTED ONLINE"

[BigBearJohn]

126. WEAPON INSPECTOR SAYS SECRETS ARE ****NEW***** TOTALLY NEW INFO NOW ON WEB

David Kay -- Ex-Weapon Inspector
Mostly engineering details that are not taught.
This material is new to the web.

[Neoma]

127. I'm ether going to die from stress or nuclear bomb.

Ether way, does it matter? :hide:

[Maraya1969]

129. DON'T TELL ME NO ONE WHO PUSHED THIS KNEW THAT IT COULD BE A DANGER!@!@@!!!@!@!@!@!@@@@!

This REALLY pisses me off! How many people have downloaded the directions before they took it off and to what danger is the rest of the world in because of it?

They will stop at anything to win. But then why should I be surprised?

[StrictlyRockers]

130. Know your BFEE: Cheney & Halliburton Sold Iran Nuke Technology

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=928662&mesg_id=928662


In these days when George W Bush contemplates attacking the nation of Iran, a story that we should remember:

Halliburton Sold Iranian Oil Company Key Nuclear Reactor Components, Sources Say

August 05, 2005
By: Jason Leopold
Independent Media TV

Scandal-plagued Halliburton -- the oil services company once headed by Vice President Cheney -- sold an Iranian oil development company key components for a nuclear reactor, say Halliburton sources with intimate knowledge into both companies' business dealings.

Halliburton was secretly working at the time with one of Iran 's top nuclear program officials on natural gas related projects and sold the components in April to the official's oil development company, the sources said.

SNIP…

Now comes word that Halliburton, which has a long history of flouting U.S. law by conducting business with countries the Bush administration said has ties to terrorism, was working with Cyrus Nasseri, vice chairman of the board of directors of Oriental Oil Kish, one of Iran's largest private oil companies, on oil and natural gas development projects in Tehran. Nasseri is also a key member of Iran's nuclear development team and has been negotiating Iran 's nuclear development issues with the European Union and at the International Atomic Energy Agency.

SNIP…

Nasseri was interrogated by Iranian authorities in late July for allegedly providing Halliburton with Iran 's nuclear secrets and accepting as much as $1 million in bribes from Halliburton, Iranian government officials said. During the first round of interrogations in the judiciary, a huge network of oil mafia has been exposed, according to the IPS report.

CONTINUED…

[AntiFascist]

136. I wonder what the Plame outing was all about....

also, what secrets does Sibel Edmonds want to tell us? These are key issues relating to the ultimate BushCo corruption.

[kestrel91316]

131. k

[Lil Red]

133. It's #1 on Countdown right now! (n/t)

[spanone]

134. KICK AND RECOMMEND !!!!!

[Up2Late]

135. When NPR reported this today, they added they did this with POISON GAS Too!!!

...I think they said this happened in the spring of this or last year!

...The site was established after the Iraq Survey Group concluded that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. It draws on millions of pages, most in Arabic, taken from tens of thousands of boxes of materials.

When the nuclear documents were first posted in September, groups including the International Atomic Energy Agency protested their release, saying states like Iran could use the data to further their nuclear programs.

Specifically, the information involved specific questions triggering mechanisms and firing circuits, along with ways of overcoming specific technical and engineering hurdles.

The danger of the posted data remains in dispute. But intelligence officials say they will be much more careful when the Web site comes up again.

(more text and info in the audio at link) http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6430419

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

138. They hit one out of the ballpark, the competence in gov't ballpark!!!! Everyone resign! n/t

[lonestarnot]

139. So what's the excuse? Making us safer, bwwwwwwwwwwaaaaa

:rofl:

[opihimoimoi]

140. Shear, sheer, MADNESS...WTF are those assholes thinking??

Give them the secrets so we can say they have weapons of mass destruction??? Making everything alright if we invade them(Iran and whoever got the Nukes???)

And we pay these assholes....?

[Jamastiene]

141. Like I have said many times before...

we have a bunch of dumbasses controlling our country right now. It's a shame, really.

[Catherine Vincent]

142. Was this going to be pinned to the top?

:kick:

[jimshoes]

143. Weren't the Rosenbergs put to death

for giving away nuclear secrets?

[savemefromdumbya]

144. Condi wants a mushroom cloud