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Mortos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 05:59 AM
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10 More U. S. soldiers killed in Iraq Yesterday.
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- In a deadly day of violence, 10 U.S. service members died in Iraq on Tuesday, the U.S. Military said Wednesday.

Four Multi-National Division-Baghdad soldiers were killed in a roadside bomb attack west of Baghdad Tuesday at about 6:50 a.m.

Less than three hours later, another Multi-National Division-Baghdad soldier died after his patrol was hit with small-arms fire in northern Baghdad.

Tuesday afternoon, a sixth Multi-National Division-Baghdad soldier was killed at about 1:10 p.m. when his vehicle was hit by an improvised-explosive device, also north of the capital.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/10/18/iraq.main/index.html

How many more of our troops are going to be killed to make w. look like a tough, "stay the course", war president?

Very, very sad.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:02 AM
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1. I wonder if some of these are from the Amno dump
that blew up and dropped off the MSM. Mmmmmm
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Mortos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:06 AM
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2. It doesn't appear so
These troops were all killed, according to the military, on Tuesday from roadside bombs, small arms fire and, the indistinct, "enemy action".

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:49 AM
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10. and I am to believe the military brass or whomever?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:43 AM
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24. Why would they cover-up deaths in the ammo dump...
only to kill them off a few days later in other fuck-ups?
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:49 AM
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25. 6 here, 10 there = 'acceptable.'
But let's say, for the sake of argument, that 120 Americans were killed in that ammo dump fire (I have no proof of this, just picking a number arbitrarily).

Which would shock the American conscience more - a few today and a few tomorrow as a result of 'enemy actions,' or 120 of our kids slaughtered at once as a result of an insurgent mortar attack?

Think about it.

- as
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:50 AM
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26. Yeah, I've thought about it.
The idea keeps getting more ridiculous every time I think about it.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:39 AM
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21. Sure seems like the daily death toll is spiking recently...
...just like all us cynical types who refused to believe
the oficial story about that ammo dump PREDICTED it would.

We need to find out the specific UNITS of these latest
casualties, and see if any connect-the-dots need be played.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:52 PM
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27. No doubt about it!
I beleieve the current upswing in casualities is directly tied to the recent attack on the ammo dump.

Add these three facts together and consider the results.

A sudden 'surge' in US deaths with no corresponding surge in military activity (that we've heard of)

The ammo dump video taken from 10 miles away that shows an explosion of indescribable force.

The fact that the US government reflexively lies to cover up bad news (Tillman, Lynch, etc)

The fact that Bush wants desperately to squelch any bad news coming from Iraq.

As far as I'm concerned, these facts taken together very strongly indicate that our forces have suffered heavy casualties recently -- most likely from the ammo dump explosions -- which Bush does not want us to hear about. So, rather than announce the true amount of casualties from this one event, his winged monkeys are apportioning those deaths over a period of two-three weeks, hoping to boil the frog slowly by announcing a handful of them every day until, near the end of the month, the REAL total of deaths from the ammo dump attack is known. From the look of that video, I'd say there had to be at least 100 casualty deaths. (Anybody trying to fight that fire at the time of the massive explosion would have been blown to fragments.)

Massive casualties from an attack in the SAFEST, most secure area of the safest, most secure Iraqi city will prove even to the MSM that this war is lost, and also turn even most of the die-hards against Smirk's 'stay-the-course' strategery.

IOW, Bush cannot, will not, would not, would never allow the truth about such a huge, bloody attack to come out if he could do anything to keep it quiet. And Bush CAN do a number of things to keep it quiet (until after the election, at least).

To my mind, all the available evidence points to a huge loss of life from this ammo dump attack. The only reason NOT to believe this happened is because the press and the government haven't admitted it. But hide and watch -- that will eventually change.
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Mistahkleeen Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:27 PM
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29. Why are we there
Dammit
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:10 AM
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3. and the Ministry of the Interior just dissolved 2 police stations
and fired over 3000 people due to corruption and insurgence.we are making progress.
Bless these soldiers' families.I pray they can find peace.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:10 AM
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4. What a waste of human life...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:11 AM
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5. umm..just listening to nbc news-"no US casulties" from car bombs!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:14 AM
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6. ohmygawd. there just are no more words left!
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:18 AM
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7. 10 more American families destroyed
100 more Iraqi families destroyed.

Hundreds more seriously injured.

Another day of progress by Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld!:sarcasm:
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:42 AM
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8. 10 in a day?
This must be one of the worst days of the war.
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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:00 AM
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11. and we have reached Vietnam-esque proportions
anytime the KIAs approach 10 or more per day, we have finally arrived at a ratio equal to that of average KIAs/day in SE Asia.

My math goes like this: 58,000 US soldier-KIAs over a 15-year war (1964-1975) in Vietnam, smoothing the averages over time, you get approx. 10 KIAs/day. This is counting every day, 365 days a year.

I don't expect the daily KIAs in Iraq to continue at this non-stop, meat-grinding pace but it is time wake up to the reality. Even half of this is half as bad as 'Nam. Which isn't good by anyone's measure, even that idiot Cheney. It still represents wasted lives and wasted money, fighting a war we can't ever win.
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Mortos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:04 AM
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13. I wonder if the WIA is more significant in this war
Due to improvements in medical treatment and advances in medical trauma science, might we be seeing a lot more WIA's who would have been KIA's during Vietnam?

I haven't seen any comparisons on these numbers but I will do a little research and find out.

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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:18 AM
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22. A good point albeit subjective assessment
of WIAs in Iraq vrs. KIAs in Vietnam. A subjective point, but very valid in light of the current war.

And IMHO the Iraqi resistance has not yet begun to fight with more advanced weapons yet, Syria and Iran have stockpiled a lot of these newer weapons. The war in Iraq against the US has only started. The Hezbollah were able to stop the Israeli tanks in the recent invasion, with the RPG-29s which knocked out the best armour-plated tanks in the world.

When $750 dollar RPGs can kill million dollar tanks, that's a severe disadvantage for US armor anywhere in the world.


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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:44 AM
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9. One who knows and won't be going back
On Thursday, Sgt. Ricky Clousing plead guilty to absent without leave and will serve three months in confinement. At his sentencing hearing, Sgt. Clousing continued to raise his concerns about the abuses of power that go without accountability and the everyday devastation of the occupation of Iraq. For the time being, Ricky is being held at Camp LeJuene in North Carolina. It's critical over the coming week that Ricky receive letters, postcards, and other words of encouragement from friends, family and other supporters. This will both keep his spirits up, and put the brig staff on notice that Ricky is not alone.

Support Sgt. Clousing in the brig. Write a letter today and tell him he's not alone! Please send only letters or postcards. If you do want to send Ricky reading material, it must come from a bookstore or publisher preferably new and shrink-wrapped. Food and other personal items won't make it to Ricky. Also, assume that all letters to Ricky will be screened so please use the appropriate discretion.

I have his address if anyone cares to write to give him support.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:04 AM
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12. At this rate, we're talking 3,650 deaths per year; 36,000 injured.
and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead and wounded. It would be sickening and infuriating to read about any country sacrificing its young people to perpetrate this level of violence anywhere in the world. To live every day with the knowledge that this is MY country, and MY tax dollars supporting this is increasingly, emotionally horrible to bear.
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AnotherMother4Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 09:22 AM
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14. K&R Lest they be forgotten - MSM barely mentioned the deaths this AM
Bless these soldiers and their families - May they find peace
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 09:26 AM
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15. And there is some kind of deep cover up going on
hiding deaths in that ammo dump blast too.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 09:33 AM
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16. I agree.Why haven't we heard anything else?
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BobF Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 09:35 AM
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17. So this is what "Last Throes" looks like?
Funny, but I thought it would look different.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 09:36 AM
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18. This morning NPR reported over 400 injured this month, as well
Let us not forget the 400 who have been wounded or maimed, including those who will live with lifelong disabilities and a government that doesn't give a crap about them once they can no longer pull a trigger for the regime.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 09:58 AM
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19. if this keeps up it will be the worst month
in two years.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:35 AM
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20. as long as its below the daily toll
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 10:35 AM by maxsolomon
from highway accidents in this country, iraq is safer than america. :sarcasm:
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Johnny Appleseed Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:36 AM
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23. And remember the ratio of killed to wounded in this
war has been 1 to 8 (it was 1 to 3 in Vietnam by way of comparison) and of those wounded some are quite literally on the verge of death. Several hundred soldiers have returned home in comas, with any sort of recovery a great uncertainty.
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MCMetal Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 01:01 PM
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28. Mission Accomplished
Rush Limbaugh interviewed Vice President Cheney on his show today. At one point, Limbaugh asked Cheney to respond to growing frustration over U.S. efforts in Iraq.

Cheney acknowledged there is a "natural level of concern out there" because fighting didn't end "instantaneously." (Next month, the war will have lasted longer than U.S. fighting in World War II.) Cheney then pointed to various news items to paint a positive picture of conditions in Iraq and concluded, "If you look at the general overall situation, they're doing remarkably well."







Don't you really mean your Halliburton stock and portfolio are doing remarkably well , Darth , you piece of shit ?
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 09:18 PM
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30. Seems like the ignored drip, drip, has gone from 2 to ten.....


:cry:
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