Fights TOUGHER, BETTER: Rightwing media or left-leaning media?

[blm]

Poll question: Fights TOUGHER, BETTER: Rightwing media or left-leaning media?

Fights TOUGHER - Fights BETTER - and DOMINATES the mainstream media's news cycle: Rightwing media or left-leaning media?

[bryant69]

1. a clarification of terms

We are talking about specifically partisan media - Air America vs. Rush Limbaugh, not Mainstream Media which, however conservative it may be, does not push openly for Conservativism. Am I understanding you correctly?

Either way though, Conservatives are a bit better at it, in almost all areas.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[blm]

Well - who gets their message more INTO the mainstream media?

That's why I added dominates the news cycles.

[rman]

6. The corporate MSM deceives in favor of conservatism/corporatism,

which practically comes down to the same thing as openly pushing for conservatism.

For instance, none of the corporate MSM outlets has seriously discussed the contents and the pros and cons of NAFTA - instead they have limited the discussion the who, where, when and how much of NAFTA. In these kinds of (rather important) matters there is virtually no difference between FOX and say, MSNBC.

[endarkenment]

9. mainstream "does not push openly for Conservativism"?

I disagree. Almost the entire political dialog heard on the mainstream media is framed as a debate between center right and far right.

[bryant69]

12. If you can't see the difference between the

Mainstream Media and a Rush Limbaugh or a Glenn Beck, well, I'll just say I disagree.

Obviously there are problems with the mainstream media, however.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[endarkenment]

13. Oh you mean the dialog between the center right and the far right?

Yes I see the difference there. That is my point. Where exactly is the left in that dialog? Many of us are so submerged by the bullshit stream that we don't even realize that there is no 'left'.

[blm]

15. Heh - pretty much nails it, imo.

And the left media we do have is still pitifully ineffective because major media won't LET it succeed in any mass way.

[MannyGoldstein]

2. Next Poll:

Which is brighter, night or day?

[rman]

3. DOMINATES the news...

because of the resources of Big Capital behind it.

[rainy]

4. The left fight better, tougher and smarter, however, those that

have power will do all they can do to see that we are not heard. Plus, they have the money to keep us from being heard. The playing field isn't even.

[blm]

14. And how does THAT effect campaigns and elections? Or whether a talented

president with what was purported to be endless political savvy gets impeached for...........nothing?

[KharmaTrain]

5. They're Better "Entertainers"

While we have the intelect and the right causes, we also have some of the most bland spokespeople on these shows. Some are wonks, others are political operatives who wobble when knocked off their talking point and still others are good people but with the charisma of a sponge. Inversely, the GOOPers have worked hard to make their people "TV saavy"...there's the Blackwell school that works with these people on how to dominate a food fight and how disciplined and prepped to the point they make it seem "natural". They speak in codewords that connect with their base and have used ridicule and defamation as part of their lexicon.

[endarkenment]

7. Note that your own wording demonstrates the problem.

You have two categories: 'rightwing media' and 'left-leaning media'. Aside from the fact that there really isn't much of a left-leaning media, if it existed it would merely be 'left-leaning' not 'leftwing'.

The american left needs to stop apologizing for being left.

[blm]

8. Left wing media barely exists. Left LEANING media exists at least a little

.

[endarkenment]

10. That is my point.

The wording of your question answers the question itself. How can the 'left-leaning' opposition, which barely exists and does not even strongly hold its own positions, compete with the rightwing dominant voice of the mainstream media?

[blm]

11. I know - whenever you try to craft a question about it the answer

is always apparent, because it IS so horrifically stark - no getting around it.

The thing is that people tend to focus blame on one aspect of a campaign and election without taking a full accounting of the factors that cause the ACTUAL problems. Media and party infrastructure are two crucial factors that would trump Jesus Christ, himself.