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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:39 PM
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RE: The Jesus Camp ads....
I know they're ubiquitous. I know they're annoying. I know they've been running for waaay too long.

But aren't you kind of glad that this kind of radical findamentalism (the kind that gives real faith a bad name)is being shown for what it is: a dangerous move towards religious tyranny? These kids are even being taught to worship W.

Thick with irony.

I for one plan to see the film.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:46 PM
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1. The best thing that the Jesus Camps ad did..
was make me donate way before I was ready to.
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NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:59 PM
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2. They are a reminder of what are our arch-enemies are up to
& the direction this country is headed in. Keep them up & in your face as a constant reminder, before we completely turn into an American Taliban country.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:08 PM
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3. Human shields for 2008?
When the "righties" decide that we can't change horses in midstream, and have already established that they don't deal with the Constitution, and, besides, someone slipped something in some SCOTUS justice's creme whatever ...

The "human shields" line up in front of the White House to prevent the military from taking down the "President" who had decided that he had to have ultimate control over everything, and the kids line up to give Faux News a great vidclip of how the "evil liberals" are trying to kill kids ...
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 06:59 PM
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4. Suggestion for the Jesus Camp ads: I am truly tired of these
brainwashed little girls' worshipful faces on my computer screen. I understand it's for a good cause and all, but it's having the opposite effect on me. I don't want to see the film, and I think that excessive focus on this minority--rightwing 'christians'--assists the war profiteering corporate news monopolies in their purpose of convincing the progressive majority in this country that it is the minority. I'm not against SOME focus. I think the brainwashng of children, and creation of little "soldiers for Christ," should be exposed. I'm talking about EXCESSIVE focus, which could be giving this religious propaganda an aura of power way out of proportion to the numbers of people who fall for it. I know something about this. I was educated in Catholic schools and got the whole hit of the "army of Christ" thing. But I have considerable respect for the human mind and its ability to see through propaganda and seek its own freedom.

So....what I want to see is the faces of INTELLIGENT, THINKING children--children reading an astronomy book, or looking into a telescope or microscope, or a studying a biology book on evolution, or on the internet researching the history of war and its relationship to religion--with a text along these lines: "Do we want intelligent children or brainwashed children? The Jesus Camp knows what it wants..."

POSITIVE IMAGES to remind us WHAT IS DESIRABLE, what we want for children, how they SHOULD BE educated, and how they can educate themselves--to promote this film that is about a negative phenomenon--something we need to know about, but not something that makes little Jesus "stars" out of the victims of this abuse.

Re-design and re-write the ad! PLEASE!

These robotic little Jesus freak faces are FREAKING me, and I think they may be having an undesired subliminal impact. It's like having an ad for a Stephen King horror movie shoved at you all the time. Make the message more solution-oriented. Have it say: Yeah, this is a problem, and here's how we fight it. And show what children SHOULD BE doing, in contrast to someone filling their minds with rapture/power psychosis.
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hsher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:31 PM
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5. Just wait till they become teenagers
We'll have the largest Satan-worshipping demographic in American history!
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 10:02 PM
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6. It goes beyond "being taught to worship W"...
what they do at that camp is child abuse.

Have you seen it yet? Even though the film is preaching to the choir (sorry), I suggest seeing it. And more importantly, getting those "in the middle" to see it. Hopefully it will be a rude awakening for them, and they need to be awakened NOW. There are some truly sickening scenes - the home schooling science "lesson" comes to mind. And 6-year olds being asked to "process" abortion with a tiny plastic fetus in their tiny little hands.

On the other hand, I'm wondering how many will be inspired to join "God's army." Is Limpballs championing the film? Hell, if the Kids on Fire camp really takes off, maybe Pastor Becky will franchise!

I hope there's a follow-up documentary in 10 or so years. My guess is that many of the "soldiers" will be in therapy or jail for bombing an abortion clinic. There will be some sort of meltdown - how can a kid withstand that sort of intensity starting at such a young age? Hell, when I was six I was in Sunday school being taught about gentle Jesus and his little lambs. It's very sad what they're doing to these children.
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