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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 05:32 PM
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Bob Woodward get's FanFair and Applause/those who Protested Get Nothing!
I see all this hoopla about Woodward's latest book which has everyone just "shocked...shocked....I tell 'ya."

Yet, those of us who have been on this site and others since the 2000 SELECTION...knew it all. Woodward takes credit for "connecting dots" and getting "Bush Apologists and folks like Colin Powell" together to talk about "Bush's Denial."

What about Bush's DENIAL that he LOST the 2000 Election? What about that Bob..?? What about that..and from that every other LIE and DENIAL by these Criminals followed?

It ALL comes down to the lies and complicity of Repugs with that "2000 Selection" where EVERY BRANCH of our Government and the 5th Estate (Media) needs to be held accountable. Supremes, Congress, Executive, Judiciary and our "Free Press."


Blind Into Baghdad
Like scenes out of "Desperate Housewives," the war room machinations of the White House.

Reviewed by Ted Widmer
Sunday, October 8, 2006; Page BW05

No one fares especially well in this retelling. The familiar stereotypes emerge -- Rice as powerless, Cheney as dark and secretive, Bush as blithe. Even Colin Powell, often lionized, fails to assert himself at crucial moments when the secretary of state might have used his prestige to alter the course of history. But Rumsfeld takes the worst of it. For a public that demands heroes and villains, he will appear in the latter role. Part of Woodward admires him and his charisma, intelligence and willingness to take on the Pentagon bureaucracy. Quoting John le Carr on George Smiley, Woodward writes of a man who "had been given, in late age, a chance to return to the rained-out contests of his life and play them after all." But throughout the book, with building intensity, Rumsfeld commits mistakes of the highest order, both strategic and tactical. Woodward calls his micromanaging "almost comic." He overwhelms his staff with short administrative notes (called "snowflakes") that he sends around the Pentagon. He crushes bureaucratic opponents such as the National Security council and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, then vacillates before important decisions or blames others when they go badly. He cherry-picks intelligence and distributes it unevenly before meetings. He badly misses crucial warnings before 9/11, sends too few troops to Iraq to do the job and blows the chance to train the Iraqi army when that might have saved it.

So many of Rumsfeld's subordinates appear to have talked to Woodward that the book suggests the feeling of a palace revolt. One Pentagon colonel penned a series of haikus to chase his blues away, including what must be the first poem in history to begin with the five-syllable line, "Rumsfeld is a dick." That gnomic sentence may be the book's motto.

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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 05:41 PM
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1. I've read all three of his Bush at War series...
It appears to me, after finishing State of Denial, that Woodward played some bait and switch with the Bush cabal to get access. If you read the first two books, Bush is portrayed as a flawed yet heroic leader determined to see through his agenda. But the entire third novel reads like an indictment of his entire leadership team. Particularly Rumsfeld.

As for connecting dots, there is stuff in the third book that no one could really know. People could put on their tinfoil and discuss the issues, but these are direct quotes Woodward got from the Washington Establishment.

In closing, the guy had the balls to suck em in, kiss some butt, then take a big dagger and stab them in their asses. I applaud him for it.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 05:52 PM
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2. Who'd have thought that it would take 4 years for this mess to be finally
exposed -- we knew what a crock it was from the beginning! I remember too well having to rely on British news sites to give us the real story back then.

It's bittersweet justice when the U.S. media allowed so many deaths, destroyed lives, & the collapse of our country's good reputation before it finally decided to "dig" for the truth & report it.

I don't think highly of Woodward nowadays, but I'm thankful he wrote this third book. I'll give him credit for that.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:23 PM
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3. Was here with other DU'ers till 2 to 3 a.m. e-mailing the UN to try to
STOP Iraq Invasion.... How clueless were we think we could STOP what had already been put into place. BUT WE TRIED!!!! WE TRIED!!! It eats our GUTS OUT...that WE TRIED!

We were stupid? Clueless? We WERE PATRIOTS! We KNEW THEN...that something "WICKED THIS WAY ...was COMING!!!

WE DID OUR BEST...and ALL OF US IN THE MASSIVE PROTESTS..that our MSM never covered....never covered.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 06:53 PM
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4. You are so right. The fact that it's happening now does not erase any of
the actual truth.
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