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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:15 PM
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I think I know the name of the priest who molested Foley
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 07:31 PM by WilliamPitt
& I am going to ask this be deleted. Foley moved out of Newton when he was three. Thanks for the info.&

If it is true.

Foley grew up in Newton. So did I.

I went to CCD class at Our Lady's parish. My CCD teacher was a priest named Paul Shanley.

You might know the name. He turned out to be the most astonishing predator in the entire Catholic pedophile scandal.

No, he never messed with me.

But if this Foley accusation is true, I'd bet my bottom dollar that it was Shanley who did it.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:16 PM
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1. You knew Paul Shanley? Creepy!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:18 PM
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2. Whoa!
It must make your skin crawl. .
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:19 PM
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3. I proudly got kicked out of CCD
for asking too many questions.

I'm sorry you had to be exposed to such a sicko.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:24 PM
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11. Kicked out of CCD for asking too many questions??
Damn ... I wish I thought of that! I sat there, bored out of my mind while not buying any of it. :crazy:
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:53 PM
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36. I was truly needing answers re my faith,
and seemed to ask questions that pissed off the faculty. They sent a priest to the house. Broke my mum's heart. I was 14.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:25 PM
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13. I Had To Go, Can't Even Remember What CCD Stands For Now
For the life of me I can't remember what it stood for. I thought it was bullshit when I was a kid, I certainly haven't become a believer since.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:34 PM
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29. Catholic Christian Doctrine?
Something like that??
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:50 PM
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34. All my friends who went called it "Central City Dump"
None of them are religious today.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:54 PM
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37. The meanest people from my childhood were CCD people.....
....Nns? Whatever they were I hated them. Of course, I didn't last. My mom always said: "You can remember whole Cheech and Chong albums but you can't remember your prayers."
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chaplainM Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:55 PM
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38. "Confraternity of Christian Doctrine"
(I don't call myself, 'chaplainM' for nothing...)
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:40 PM
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48. Confraternity of Christian Doctrine
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:19 PM
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4. the message i get from all this is
keep the kids away from REpublicans and REligion.
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:38 PM
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30. ding, ding, ding!
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:19 PM
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5. Or, is it possible that he is just using the Shanley incident because
it fits the timeline he needs? :shrug:
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:26 PM
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16. WILL!!! Can't be Shanley, Foley moved to FL at 3yrs old it happend in FL
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 07:27 PM by demo dutch
If it's even true! They're doing damage control in my view!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:20 PM
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6. I would not believe anything Foley said
and trying to connect his being Gay to having been molested makes me even more skeptical.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:25 PM
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15. I agree, my bullshit meter is off the charts on this one...
According to his lawyer, he isn't to blame, alcohol, the Church and him being gay are to be blamed.

It is despicable and a no sale, imo.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:31 PM
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25. all that PLUS he didn't do anything super-naughty, anyway. lol
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:27 PM
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18. Exxxxxactly. n/t
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:22 PM
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7. Isn't he the one who was...
murdered in prison? Egads...sure puts it all in a different light. I don't understand the whole 'pedophile' thing going on with regards to Foley...I would label it inappropriate..maybe sexual exploitation. But, if he were to have abuse in his backround it would certainly explain his lack of boundaries.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:22 PM
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8. No Foley moved to FL when he was 3 years old. It happend in FL in Palm
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 07:24 PM by demo dutch
Beach County, possibly
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:31 PM
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24. Or not.
With liars like foley I would need the priest to step forward and then I'm not so sure.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:32 PM
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27. KATHERINE HARRIS!
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:22 PM
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9. Wow...
this whole thing makes my head spin.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:22 PM
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10. First he blamed it on alcohol
now he says he molested as young boy.....sounds like nothing but excuses from a member of the party that refuses to accept responsibility for anything they have done. It's just another attempt to shift the blame.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:26 PM
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17. interrupting a vote when sober (or was he drinking in Congress ?)
doesn't fit in that pattern

New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote
October 03, 2006 1:22 PM

Brian Ross and Maddy Sauer Report:

Former Congressman Mark Foley (R-FL) interrupted a vote on the floor of the House in 2003 to engage in Internet sex with a high school student who had served as a congressional page, according to new Internet instant messages provided to ABC News by former pages.

ABC News now has obtained 52 separate instant message exchanges, which former pages say were sent by Foley, using the screen name Maf54, to two different boys under the age of 18.

This message was dated April 2003, at approximately 7 p.m., according to the message time stamp.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/10/new_foley_insta.html
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:24 PM
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12. I don't believe him. Why didn't he come forward when the scandal
broke? He certainly could have used it to push his 'predator' agenda that he was obviously so proud of. :eyes:

I think he's reaching. If it were Shanley, dead men tell no tales.

And, I'm glad he never messed with you, Will.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:25 PM
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14. Not Shanley, Foley moved to FL when he was 3 yrs old it happend
in FL, (IF even true)
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:29 PM
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21. Yes, it happened in Florida
On Chris Matthews show they said he went to school in Florida. I am thinking Chris said that he went to Junior high school at Cardinal Gibbons, but not sure.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:28 PM
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19. Is Shanley dead? Foley's lawyer sez culprit priest is dead.
:shrug:
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:40 PM
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31. How very convenient
and thoughtful of the molester to die before we need to know his id. It's all bullshit, I'm not buying.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:51 PM
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35. I'm inclined to think it's BS too, but I don't care if it is true,
it doesn't excuse Foley.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:28 PM
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20. hm...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:29 PM
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22. Will...are you giving Foley benefit of doubt that his
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 07:32 PM by KoKo01
"last minute Hail Mary" is TRUE?

Look, my hubby went through 12 years Catholic School and 4 years College.

I've heard all the stories from him...but the guys he knew had "codes" for the "Brothers" that they thought were "maybe." They used to do "wooooooo..." in low tones whenever Brother So and So came near and started to do a "rub." This is back before your time when kids were MUCH MORE innocent...

I've heard all the horror stories and my hubby never could understand why he wasn't allowed to be an Alter Boy because his Navy Officer Dad who was a practicing Catholic refused to let him do it. Now my hubby thinks his DAD was trying to protect him...just in case...

Anyway I think this Foley "last minute" cop out that a "Priest Made me Do it" is Crap. It's just too convenient, selfserving and obvious. He's a very happy powerful guy to have some last minute "Epiphany" when he got "caught out."

There are too many whose lives were ruined and who have been so scarred they couldn't hold jobs because of what the errant Priests did to them...for me to have sympathy with this 52 year old guy with his Beemer and taking guys to Morton's and doing I'ming while masterbating....Sheesh.

He had some time to go get some therapy if he was so scarred. But, he doesn't seem to have "suffered" until now. JMHO...
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:31 PM
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23. He was recruiting, just like the priests were
Molested alter boys could become molesting priests

Molested pages wanted a career in politics.....
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:32 PM
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26. I think it's a load of garbage.
He's just wanting attention and people to feel sorry for him instead of his victims. He's a republican. He's not going to take responsibility for his actions. He's going to blame EVERYONE ELSE. :grr:
Duckie
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:33 PM
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28. Will, I heard you on Randi Rhodes show today!!
You were great!!

:yourock:
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:46 PM
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32. Did you hear that the pope has now been implicated in cover-up
of pedophile priests? It's all so overwhelming for some of us. We have been victims in one form or another. And the blase attitudes of too many pretty much guarantee new victims.

I am glad for you Will that you were too damn much trouble for the likes of a pervert like Shandley to target. <Your mom told me that...>

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QuestionAll... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:48 PM
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33. o jesus, please shut your hole.
and I say that in a good way.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:57 PM
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39. why don't you shut yours?
and I said that in an even better way.
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QuestionAll... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:19 PM
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40. because I am in the land of freedom of speech
and all that is right with the world.
lol.

saying that in a googleplex of the best ways ever in all universes.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:24 PM
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41. The attorney said he wouldn't say whether this was a Priest, a Minister, a
Rabbi or a Imam. Is Foley Catholic? Do we know?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:29 PM
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43. He's ethnic Polish-American and raised Roman Catholic.
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 08:29 PM by TahitiNut
:shrug: It's plausible.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:26 PM
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42. Well, you blew it
You could have used this to get away with some things in the future.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 02:05 AM
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49. What the fuck does that mean?
Edited on Wed Oct-04-06 02:09 AM by WilliamPitt
Did you see the retraction in the OP?


"& I am going to ask this be deleted. Foley moved out of Newton when he was three. Thanks for the info.&"


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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:29 PM
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44. I googled Paul Shanley
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 08:29 PM by koopie57
he sounds like an SOB.

I don't know what CCD stood for but we loved it. Got out of the house without giving a reason, and no tests, will all our friends. I guess I never really remember being there but the walks home.
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Rockstone Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:29 PM
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45. You may be guessing correctly
but there is no telling at this point.

It seems like he wanted a do-over on the sympathy play. "Drunk" didn't cut it and a focus group decided "molested" played better.

Personally I see no reason to believe anything he says - he already betrayed trust.

He has all the smackings of a man who will say anything. In fact all the denials made by the law yer cynically made me suspect he was guilty of ALL those things they were denying.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:43 PM
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46. I didn't take the time to check the whole thread, but
Foley was living in Florida when he was molested (age 13-15) according to the local news station. His family moved here when he was 3. He lived in Lake Worth, Florida, went to Lake Worth High School, and it was probably a church in Lake Worth or West Palm Beach. There are several there. http://www.defenddemocracy.org/biographies/biographies_show.htm?doc_id=155046
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QuestionAll... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:26 PM
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47. good investigative journalism, FlaGranny. nt
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 09:27 PM by QuestionAll...
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 02:47 AM
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50. Locking per request of OP
Locking per request of OP
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