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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 12:56 PM
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I know, you know, we all know gay doesn't automatically equal child molest
er. There are people who can't separate the two however, my wifes homophobic rabid reptilian brother being one. Most of these people make up the hardcore fundie reptile base the dirty thirty, so if they believe one of their own is gay and that gay means child molester lets use it to our advantage.
Two things are going to happen, one is that they'll educate themselves and learn that there is indeed a difference between being gay and being a pedophile. Two, they're going to be so shocked that maybe they'll lose all appetite for politics and the reptiles will lose a big chunk of support.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 12:59 PM
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1. "..one is that they'll educate themselves"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


Oh...I'm sorry....you were serious about that?
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 01:02 PM
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3. No I was hoping more for number two
that doesn't sound right does it? Oh well I'd be happy if they just went away.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 01:00 PM
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2. neither does being republican or conservative
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ryanus Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 01:07 PM
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4. It's the hypocrisy
Foley wasn't just some guy, he was a congressman who was very outspoken against the very thing he did.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 01:08 PM
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5. social conservatism is the FRIEND of child abuse.
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 01:09 PM by xchrom
please try to make that clear for your self.

there is nothing about social conservatism that won't eternally enable inappropriate sexual behavior.

if it weren't for the sexual revolution -- the struggle for women's right and gay rights -- we would be no where on this issue.

there is a HUGE gulf between conservatives and liberals/progressives on this issue.
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Red State Prisoner Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 01:13 PM
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6. The Statistics Don't Lie
80% of the pedophiles in the US are HETEROSEXUAL men. That's a truth that homophobes and the religious right refuse to accept.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 01:17 PM
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7. homophobes and the religious right know the truth.
but haters need to feel attacked under assault.

it's the same with anti-semites or racists of any sort.

in 2006 -- it's not that they don't know better -- it's that now they are cornered by the truth.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 01:18 PM
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8. that's because pedophilia has nothing to do with sexual orientation
Straight men who target young boys aren't homosexual.

In those cases, the crime is more about power and dominance than sexuality.

That is to say, the power they exert over a child when they molest them and take advantage of them is sexually exciting, so it doesn't matter if its a boy or girl.

In fact, choosing a target of the same sex might be even more of a sexual rush, because it is wrong on many levels.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 01:23 PM
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9. They're using it to hide the warnings
Every time somebody mentions that pages were warned or people knew this was happening - they turn it into everyone knowing Foley was gay which is completely different from the warnings to the pages. I am so sick of these fucking reporters who are just as complicit in this Republican corruption as the members of Congress themselves.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 01:29 PM
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10. It would also help...
if people weren't apparently deeply ignorant of what the words 'pedophile' and 'child molester' actually MEAN; a sixteen- or seventeen-year old is not a child; an adult who has a sexual attraction to sixteen- or seventeen-year-olds is not a pedophile (the age of consent in the District of Columbia is sixteen, by the way).
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 01:53 PM
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11. We know he's a pervert
not really a pedophile, what I'm getting at is there are people who don't or won't acknowledge that just because someone is gay, they aren't slobbering child molesters.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:20 PM
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12. What to say to people who don't know the difference:
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 05:20 PM by MercutioATC
"You're straight, right?"

(they'll answer "Of course")

"Then, by your logic you should never be around little girls (boys, for women) or you'll molest them. Do you molest little girls?"

The looks on their faces are priceless...
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:37 PM
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13. Or three...
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 05:45 PM by foreigncorrespondent
...they learn to hate gay people even more.

Listen mate, you might like to play with the lives of gay people, but seeing as how I am one, I don't want my life to be played with like this.

Someones life isn't about being a tool for YOUR political advantage!

On edit: typo
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:43 PM
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14. Well, thank you very much.
"if they believe one of their own is gay and that gay means child molester lets use it to our advantage."
Thank you very much for -- I hope, inadvertently -- contributing to the further demonization of gay Americans.

Do you have any clue whatsoever as to how ugly a notion you have just put forth? Any idea at all?

You really don't even understand what you just suggested, do you?

Use it to YOUR advantage? This is my life you want to use to your advantage, buster. My fucking life is not some abstract political concept.

My God, I am so disgusted by your post, I can feel the blood pounding in my head.
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