In wake of Foley, I just absolutely, positively hate these gays

[cboy4]

who are registered GOP and known as Log Cabin Republicans. :grr:

When are these bastards going to hold a press conference and denounce Foley for preying on a high school boy??????

In one day, this piece of crap from Florida has shoved gays and lesbians backward in our fight for acceptance.

So here we go again.....another filthy, no-good, selfish ass......who affiliates himself with the party of owning God, of owning family values, of owning morals......screwing over hard working, upstanding, family-oriented gay people (such as myself-------if I can put aside some modesty for a second.)

He has fucked me over and he has fucked countless gay people over.

Just as we move one step ahead, we have to take two steps back to square one, trying to convince skeptics that being gay has NOTHING to do with molesting children.

And I don't even want to hear anyone argue, "oh, well the age of consent is 16.

I don't give a rat's ass. Read the transcript. No adult has the right to speak to a sophomore in high school that way (except another kid perhaps.)

So come on Log Cabins, you spineless cowards who vote GOP and helped elect the worst administration in our lifetime.

Lets hear you condemn this. The clock is ticking.

I am just beside myself with rage. Can you tell?

<------PIG

[K8-EEE]

1. WHAT IS THE REASON? NOT "FISCAL RESPONSIBLITY"

Please, we had a balanced budget before the so-called "conservatives" took over. SO WHAT THE FUCK IS THE REASON TO BE A GAY GOP???? They HATE gays!

[ruiner4u]

2. log cabin republicans are republicans because they have....

some money... if they waited tables, they would be democrat.

[MissMarple]

30. Having money doesn't make one a Republican.

Just as being poor doesn't make one a Democrat. Party affiliation has more to do with how one views the world, one's relationships in it, and one's responsibilities in being a participant in society.

[SammyWinstonJack]

32. Rich republicans only care about money. Nothing else matters to them.

Well money and power that is, but the two usually go hand in hand. Forgive my broad brush here, but I honestly believe that too be true.

[MissMarple]

33. I agree,money and power,and wanting to be associated with money and power.

It's all so clubby and exclusive,...they think. It's often more like bullies and cliques in high school. I wonder how much of the Republican base is motivated by feelings of insecurity.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

3. I was thinking about these things tonight.

Gays cannot catch a break. I feel for you. Really.

[LeftCoast]

4. I don't see what being gay has to do with this

If he were heterosexual, would you be railing against the hetero's in the repub party?

:shrug:

[MADem]

7. It doesn't, but the closed minded assholes will claim that it does.

If he was messing with a sixteen year old GIRL, OTOH, they'd just call her a cheap slut and a temptress and be done with it, ya see!

But since he's molesting young boys, they'll claim that the "ho mo sex YULL" lifestyle has warped him so that he is FORCED by result of brainwashing to attack boychildren.

It makes no sense. But then, they never do.

[StrongbadTehAwesome]

10. When a het child molestor is caught, it isn't seen to reflect on heteros

at large. The headlines don't read "Straight Congressman Resigns over Child Sex Scandal".



Not so for us, and the unfair association of the two fuels the flames of freepers who think gay=NAMBLA.

[VeggieTart]

29. Yeah, but if I may quote Dan Savage

Straight men with Lolita obsessions don't form "civil rights" organizations.

[Smarmie Doofus]

12. We get no 'face time'... 'cept when someone's bad.

No wonder everyone hates us.

[cboy4]

19. MADem has explained it perfectly. Instead of trying to reason like the

intelligent, thoughtful person you appear to be......reason like a Republican.

Then you'll find it much easier to comprehend why this is their favorite rationale: adult male molests child = must be a pedophile homo

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. The really sad thing is that it isn't necessarily gay people

involved in this kind of horrible stuff. I don't think that orientation matters as much as simply being perverted, no matter what your orientation is.

[cboy4]

20. Thank you for your thoughtful response TCO

:)

[ShortnFiery]

6. There's something that I don't get?

Something I don't understand is why those who are homosexual in orientation would EVER be attracted to the Republican Party of today.

Forgive me if I'm wrong: My guess is that the Authoritarian Nature of these Men is attractive. Gosh, I don't understand much.

What's up with these Log Cabin Republicans because The Republican Party of 2006 does not respect homosexuals?

I don't understand at all. :shrug:

[Smarmie Doofus]

13. Not much to understand, really.

You're talking about a relatively tiny minority withing a relatively small minority to begin with.

Most gays vote DEM.

[cboy4]

22. I don't think we should discount the gay conservative vote:

"Perhaps the most surprising news for gay observers of the presidential election is that exit polls show President Bush received the exact same percentage of gay votes — 23 percent — as he did four years ago. This despite the president's vocal support for a federal constitutional amendment banning gay marriage."

http://www.washblade.com/blog/index.cfm?blog_id=155


I'm not sure how many (actual numbers) voted for Bush, but 23 is WAY, WAY too high of a percentage voting for the current idiot in the White House!!

Yes, most gays vote DEM, but considering how close the '00 and '04 elections were, we cannot afford to take a single vote for granted.

[cboy4]

18. You're not the only one who doesn't understand at all!! Many Log Cabins

are fiscally conservative and social liberals.

(I know some Log Cabins.)

They like their tax cuts for the wealthy and all of that stupid B.S.

On the other side of the coin, many are pro-choice, pro gay marriage, blah blah blah.

Lots foolishly voted for Bush in 2000 because "After meeting with gay Republicans in 2000, Mr. Bush declared "I am a better man," and welcomed gays and lesbians as valued parts of the American family.

What idiots. Of course, this administration has shunned gays and lesbians.....the Log Cabins were humiliated, they realized it, and thus did not endorse Bush in 2004.

But the damage was/is already done. They never learn their lesson long-term, and it's almost certain they'll vote GOP in 2008......especially if social moderate Giuliani runs.

So the bottom line is, they're morans.

Gay Republican is a TOTAL oxymoron.......it's like an African American joining the Ku Klux KLan!

Lets be honest. Gays are not welcome in the Republican party, but the GOP leads them on during the campaign for the votes and then disregards them and mocks them.

And yet, some gay conservatives stick with the party. It's ridiculous.

Sorry for the long response......hope that helps you understand a little more. :)

[longship]

8. My best friend is a Log Cabin Republican.

He's a political science trained high school history teacher. When I taught mathematics, he and I formed a loose group of intellectuals who met monthly to discuss politics, etc, while consuming mass quantities of wine and food.

I compare John (not his real name) with my father who was a lifelong Republican. Both of them like Ike, who was the last principled Republican to hold the White House. John despises the chumps in power and is voting for Democrats. Like John Dean, he hates the current Republican party and is working hard to return the Republicans to the days of Eisenhower, Dirksen, Baker, and others who could always hold their heads high about their party.

Like many Log Cabins, my friend does not support today's GOP.

on edit: He is one of the most highly principled person I've ever met. He's also the best teacher I've ever met. I understand his political preferences and I have to act as his surrogate in this thread. He's been helping Democrats to get elected for years, in spite of the fact that he's still a Republican. Understand that he's just as disenfranchised as the rest of the moderate Republicans.

[tbyg52]

14. I so appreciate that.

Today's Republicans are not the ones I knew as a kid. They've gone crazy.

But, I must say, that not a year ago (when one of our beloved dogs was diagnosed with inoperable cancer), the holistic vet we consulted had a story to tell about a gay couple in her neighborhood who had nothing but good to say about * (and the cabal).

My question to her and hers to me was "don't you know they think you are going to hell??" (And, may I add, "don't you know they don't give a hoot about anything but your vote?"--and maybe your money.)

[longship]

17. You are welcome.

I know that there are many Log Cabins who like ChimpCo and their cabal. I agree with you that "they know not what they do".

My friend John is working diligently on that, too. He's a good guy and I'm glad to have him as a friend.

[cboy4]

21. Well "John" has a lot of work ahead, doesn't he!! :)

The one thing I don't understand is how he can stand being around Republicans who, lets face it, for the most part do not like gays.

They like our votes but not us.

I always use this example:

I don't come from a wealthy family, and my parents sacrificed so, so much to pay the tuition to put myself and my two siblings through Catholic School.

But I cannot go to church. Aside from the fact I'm mostly turned off by religion (which is another story)......why would I want to sit in a church and associate with a majority of people there who are clearly opposed to homosexuality? Why would I want to be part of a church that doesn't accept me, because of my homosexuality?

So why do conservative gay people want to associate themselves with a party and people who are clearly opposed to homosexuality?

They're either brave for going against the establishment, or they're very, very ridiculous.

IMHO......Very, very ridiculous. In fact, not offense to your friend, but I think they're dumb. ;)

[longship]

24. It's kind of like being a socialist/liberal Democrat, isn't it?

For thirty-eight years I've watched my party nominate one loser after another for President. Other than Carter and Clinton, it's been one nightmare after another as I've watched my party pull defeat out of the jaws of victory time and time again while the opposition party has put one criminal after another into the White House. Nixon, Reagan, Bush I, Bush II. (I left out Ford because he was many things, but not dishonest and certainly no crook.)

So I do not find it ridiculous that my friend is still a Republican anymore than anybody would find it strange that I am still a Democrat.

[cboy4]

28. Yes, but if a political party were an object.....say a brick......and you

placed the gay Republican brick on the left side of the scale and you placed the gay Democrat brick on the right side.......wouldn't there not suddenly be a large crater in the floor on that side after the scale collapsed?

If your point is if one believes in a cause (such as being a gay Republican), and you remind yourself nobody ever said liberation would be easy and you're going to be a minority, if not an outcast.....but yet you're a fighter and you refuse to give up............I suppose that's mostly admirable on principle.

(That was sure a sentence fragment!)

I certainly have no problem understanding there are people who believe in conservatism......as horrible as that is =)

However, it's getting more and more difficult for me to understand why, with the christian fundamentalists playing such a larger role these days.

And just the thought of these Log Cabin people hanging out at the Republican Convention (when you know there are a lot of people there who hate them or patronize them, etc.).........boy, I just can't get past that. I don't understand.....even for a cause.....why decent Log Cabins would subject themselves to that kind of bigoted atmosphere.


One thing I do agree with you about.......when it comes to elections, it sure has been "one nightmare after another," hasn't it?! :)

[katsy]

9. foley's a criminal.

Sexuality aside, he's the criminal. He's an internet predator. That's the crime. Not being gay.


:hug:

[cboy4]

27. Thanks katsy!

:hug:

[readmoreoften]

11. This guy is not necessarily a pedophile, but he's a predator.

They come in all persuasions: gay, straight, bi/pansexual

I hate that I see things in the news like "gay pedophile". I can't imagine "straight pedophile" as a news headline. I, too, am sick of being assumed to be a pervert. Funny, I know FAR for gay men who like mature men, then straight men who like mature women. Remember when Britney Spears was 17? Yeah, a lot of straight men ogled her and talked openly about wanting to fuck her.

But beyond all that, log cabin republicans are the most pathetic case of losers with stockholm syndrome I've ever seen. Or maybe it's "stockhold" syndrome. They're fools, losers, idiots. So pathetic that I really don't have much hate for them.

They'll be the first to go in the camps when they come for us. Well, maybe not the first-- but they'll sure as hell be there.

[cboy4]

26. Hehe.....lots of good points!!

:) :)

[Erika]

15. Where is Mary?

[cboy4]

25. Mary?? Am I missing some obvious reference Erika?

:blush:

[Justice Is Comin]

16. Take one for the team.

This means change is a comin' for sure and justice will have the blindfold ripped away.

You are a martyr. The good that will come is immeasurable and once the Democrats again return sanity, your image will be restored.

[cboy4]

23. Well, I don't know if change is coming "for sure," but I love you're

enthusiasm and I hope you're right. :)

And if I take one for the team and we win.....can we at least get rid of the don't ask, don't tell in the military?!?!

I love Bill Clinton for sure, but I was so disappointed with him when he instituted DADT. :(

[cwydro]

31. Thank you.

well said.