McCain tromps Hiliary in 08 Presidential Poll

[debbierlus]

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17904983%255E2703,00.html

This is just gross.

I am not rooting for EITHER of them, but McCain is a huge sell-out. I will NEVER forget him with his arm around Bush, campaigning for him in Florida. He is a AZZ KISSER. Ever look at his voting record, it is abysmal.

So, that is what America wants? McCain. A Bush whore.

(And, when he was asked about Bush's signing statement stating he could override the torture ban amendment, McCain simply said that he believed Bush would follow it)....

PUKE

[Oceansaway]

1. McCain is the ultra

ass kisser.....he may be a VET (for that i commend him) but hes wanting to be the President so frikin bad it blinds him....it may just be hopeful or wishful thinkin on my part....but i doubt he has a chance in '08........

[Mz Pip]

2. The Dems better come up with someone

other than Hillary. Both Hillary and McCain have huge name recognition.

I'm with Molly Ivins on the Hillary thing. We can and must do better.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[sasquatch]

3. Wesley Clark

[Clark2008]

6. I'll second that! n/t

[Mz Pip]

20. Works for me.

:-)

Mz Pip
:dem:

[SaveElmer]

4. Is there anything more useless...

Than a Presidential Poll three years before an election?

[ronnykmarshall]

17. Like the ones in 1991

that showed Poopy Bush getting re-elected?

[leveymg]

5. That's precisely the reason the MSM wants Hil to be the candidate

Confirmed, right there.

[longship]

7. Neither one of whom will get the nomination.

So this poll is totally irrelevant.

McCain will not be nominated because the Repugs would never nominate a perceived moderate. This is regardless of his position on issues.

Clinton will not be nominated because her position on Iraq is counter the the majority of the voters. It's going to hurt her badly unless she changes it. If that happens, who knows whether she'd get the nod? Somehow, I doubt it. Hillary is too radioactive for Repugs. I just do not see her winning under any circumstances. Note, that I am not saying I don't like her. I'm only saying she won't get nominated, and if she does, she won't win.

[papau]

10. We disagree on both - nominated and winning - but in the primary she

will not be my first choice if something better comes along.

"her position on Iraq is counter the the majority of the voters" has never been polled to my knowledge.

It would be interesting to get a question as nuanced as her position polled! :-)

I agree nuanced positions lose to repeated simple slogans in our post Rove world - but then cut and run simple positions also lose in the political idea arena.

[in_cog_ni_to]

8. Well, good thing Hillary isn't going to be our candidate.

:)

[Imagevision]

9. Now do you understand why McCain supported Bush...!

as Karl Rove claims McCain fathered an illigitimate child when going against Bush in primary's

[Disturbed]

11. John McCain, Hypocrite

John McCain, Hypocrite
by Doug Ireland

John McCain, the media's darling, has found a clever way around his own campaign finance reform law to take big corporate bucks in furtherance of his political ambitions while carrying water for the corporate mammoth providing the dough. But the national press is ignoring the story.


The Associated Press first ran the story of John McCain's odorous but lucrative Senatorial service to the communications giant Cablevision on the afternoon of March 7. But, while some local papers in McCain's home state (like the East Valley Tribune) have run the story, nothing has as yet made it into the print editions of the New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Washington Post, or any of the half-dozen other big city dailies I checked (although, if one searches the hundreds of AP stories available on the Post's website on its Politics page by clicking on "Latest Wire Reports," one can find it there--but how many readers would bother to do that?) One notable exception: the Kansas City Star.


Here's what the AP's investigation found:


McCain repeatedly intervened on behalf of a policy Cablevision favored -- one which "congressional and private studies conclude could make cable more expensive" -- while his chief political adviser, Rick Davis (who's masterminding McCain's probable '08 presidential rerun) solicited $200,000 in contributions from Cablevision to an institute that promotes McCain and pays Davis a $110,000 annual salary.


The Reform Institute was set up to promote McCain and his issues--especially campaign finance reform, embodied in the famous McCain-Feingold law. This Institute is "a tax-exempt group that touts McCain's views and has showcased him at events since his unsuccessful 2000 presidential campaign," and it "often uses the senator's name in press releases and fund-raising letters and includes him at press conferences," the AP says. And, of course, it provides a cushy sinecure with no heavy lifting for McCain's main man, Davis, as he prepares the pontificating Senator's next presidential run. Cablevision's contributions account for a whopping 15% of the Institute's budget.


http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0309-35.htm

[Ovett]

12. Clark/Feingold or Clark/Obama or Gore/anyone

although Obama said yesterday he will not run for pres or vice-pres in '08.

[newyawker99]

18. Hi Ovett!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

13. The Dems better skip the usual "not as bad" candidate.

Which Hillary epitomizes.

[WI_DEM]

14. yes we better find somebody 'electable.'

:)

[never_get_over_it]

15. and then make sure the votes are counted fairly

Hillary is never going to be President. First of all I do not believe this country is ready whatever the hell that means for a woman President and if we are it sure as hell won't be Hillary. The right wing hate her with a passion and the left wing isn't all that crazy about her either - there probably isn't enough in the middle to get her elected. Be wary of whatever Dem candidate is being touted by the MSM - I think they want her to run because they know she will not win.

[Imagevision]

16. McCain sold ($$$) his services just like the rest of them

John McCain, the media's darling, has found a clever way around his own campaign finance reform law to take big corporate bucks in furtherance of his political ambitions while carrying water for the corporate mammoth providing the dough. But the national press is ignoring the story.


The Associated Press first ran the story of John McCain's odorous but lucrative Senatorial service to the communications giant Cablevision on the afternoon of March 7. But, while some local papers in McCain's home state (like the East Valley Tribune) have run the story, nothing has as yet made it into the print editions of the New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Washington Post, or any of the half-dozen other big city dailies I checked (although, if one searches the hundreds of AP stories available on the Post's website on its Politics page by clicking on "Latest Wire Reports," one can find it there--but how many readers would bother to do that?) One notable exception: the Kansas City Star.


Here's what the AP's investigation found:


McCain repeatedly intervened on behalf of a policy Cablevision favored -- one which "congressional and private studies conclude could make cable more expensive" -- while his chief political adviser, Rick Davis (who's masterminding McCain's probable '08 presidential rerun) solicited $200,000 in contributions from Cablevision to an institute that promotes McCain and pays Davis a $110,000 annual salary.


The Reform Institute was set up to promote McCain and his issues--especially campaign finance reform, embodied in the famous McCain-Feingold law. This Institute is "a tax-exempt group that touts McCain's views and has showcased him at events since his unsuccessful 2000 presidential campaign," and it "often uses the senator's name in press releases and fund-raising letters and includes him at press conferences," the AP says. And, of course, it provides a cushy sinecure with no heavy lifting for McCain's main man, Davis, as he prepares the pontificating Senator's next presidential run. Cablevision's contributions account for a whopping 15% of the Institute's budget.


http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0309-35.htm

[DanCa]

19. Color me surprised by this.

:sarcasm:

[raysr]

21. Lets Swift Boat him

if he runs.

[alfredo]

22. Do we even know if he is running? He will be 71-72 years old in

2008. Will he have the energy or the will to do what it takes to win a presidential campaign?

Anyway, it is the most right wing who show for the caucuses and primaries. Will the Christian right put up with a John McCain? Will they see his anti torture stance as disloyalty to bush?