Call or E-Mail CNN and MSNBC and Thank Them

[Armstead]

...for ignoring Al Gore's speech (except for a few soundbite and inane counterattacks by GOP) while giving Bush unfettred free time to present his propaganda unfiltered.

[400Years]

1. until people here realize we have to create our own media

nothing will change.

Good post Armstead I think you just illustrated the futility of begging for crumbs from these people.

[Armstead]

4. Thanks but I thnk you misinterpreted my meaning

I agree with you that we need to keep building our own media networks. But I think my sarcasm about the networks wasn't clear enough.

However I also believe we should challenge the Media Bastards full throttle and start demanding that they move back towards the center. The sickening fact is that the MSM has a big role in setting the agenda and steering public perceptins -- and therefore the outcome of politics.

People who are moderate-to-left are AT LEAST half the country. Add in the conservatives who are fed up or worried about the current administrations (libertarians against illegal wiretapping, for example) make it more than half.

Those bastards have to stop taking our half of the country for granted. From the standpoint of democracy we must be equally represented. And from a purely pragmatic standpoint, we are half of theior potential audience. Their ratings are already anemic -- one of thee days they wll realize that they are blowing it by alienating at leat half their customers.

[400Years]

8. some people mistakenly assume these people are only profit motivated

if that was the case they would have alread offered a liberal alternative

but they haven't and that speaks volumes.

fact is all these media outlets are part of a largere corporate structure and these media outlets serve that interest even if it is at a loss financially.

Yes we should blast them but they will never deliver us from evil.

[Armstead]

12. I thnk it's that they're locked into a worldview

Rather than holding meetings and saying "How can we promote the CONservative agenda today?" I think it is more an intrlocking set of assumptions that closes them off from otehr realities.

I know some people toiling in the vineyards of Big Media (and have worked in the periphery of it myself) and many of the personal views of them are not that far from the average DUer. But they have created a disconnect between their personal views and what is demandd by their jobs.

That's why I believe we have to hammer these networks (and print Big Media). There are enough people there who are not lockstep CONservatives...and/or who are apolitically carrerist that they could be made to at least think twice about what they are doing when they alienate at least half the country.

[Fredda Weinberg]

5. Having our own media won't make the public tune in

I was happy to be part of the push to get S-Span to cover Gore's speech, but am not fooling myself - he's not the best spokesman to John Q Public.

Clinton didn't need his own media - he felt your pain and the average person got it.

I find myself wondering what we stand for ... I've seen lots of heat over false and/or misleading reports, but nothing positive the electorate can support.

[Armstead]

6. Please see my post immediately above

I believe it is vital that we force the basic media infrastructire to open up.

[Fredda Weinberg]

10. We have and can do so again

but I don't think Gore's speech was a suitable vehicle.

[400Years]

9. You will never see anything positive if they don't present it

that is why we have to create and support our own media infrastructure and peal away eyeballs from the liars.

[Fredda Weinberg]

11. Bull shit

I had no trouble getting out the Florida voter scrub report and preventing a repeat of that fiasco.

Heck, I had no trouble getting on the local evening news with my kids, cops and computers cut crime program - nothing was more positive than that.

You're not going to peel eyeballs away from entertainment with Al Gore's carefully crafted arguments. If you want a media campaign, I'll be happy to cooperate, but I'm not going to curse the darkness when we've got all the matches we need.

[400Years]

14. Bullshit? I don't think so

Your "kids, cops and computers cut crime program" does not challenge the power structure and is actually something the corporate media eats up. Now if that program focused on the corrupt nature of U.S. foreign policy it would have never been put on TV.

If you want to cuss at me fine but I'm going to tell you right here that you are being naive.

[malaise]

2. And covering

even the Q & A section. This is bullspit.

[niyad]

3. not to mention hiring glenn beck and jc watts, and the other idiot. . . .

so much for integrity and honesty and objectivity.

[Armstead]

7. An e-mail I just sent

"Last week you ignored and trivialized major speeches by Al Gore and the Democratic Leadership of Congress.

This week you give Bush unfiltered acces to make his case for spying on Americans.

You wonder why CNN has such a small audience? Wake up, and stop chasing the Fox News audience, and start providing some balance."

[Uncle Joe]

13. CNN or MSNBC cannot handle the truth,

they tremble in fear of it.