Shiite family of 11 killed. This is just a sample of what is to come....

[Fla Dem]

Insurgents slay 11 Shiite family members in Iraq

Family slain in sectarian violence

"BAGHDAD, Iraq - Six assailants broke into a house just south of Baghdad on Thursday and killed 11 members of the same Shiite family by slitting their throats, police said.

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Police said the slain Shiite family had been warned by insurgents to move out of the largely Sunni district of Latifiya, around 13 miles south of the capital, but had not done so.

The gunmen arrived at the house in two cars, broke in and bound the hands of the 11 and killed them before driving off, leaving the bloodied bodies in the house.

Seven of the dead were men and four were women, police said.
Families from both sides of Iraq’s deep sectarian divide have been subjected to attacks by gunmen seeking to drive members of one sect or another from certain areas.

more.......
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10636018/

So tell me again how the Iraqi's are better off since we got rid of Saddam, and "30,000 more or less" Iraqi's have been killed.

[Selatius]

1. I wonder what the Badr Brigade or the Mahdi Army would do to retaliate.

Make another 20 or 30 Sunni dead bodies appear in the river mysteriously?

[acmejack]

2. Ahh, religion.

Has anything killed as many?

[Clara T]

4. Capitalism?

[Fla Dem]

6. Communism and Nazism n/t

[FiveGoodMen]

10. That's just another religion

[xultar]

3. In a democracy people are free to do all sorts of things make bad choices.

Where's a rummy-ism when you need it?

[Fla Dem]

5. If this wasn't so sad, that would be funny. n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

7. It is sad

:cry: I guess none were children?

[Auntie Bush]

16. Seems like Bush-ism hogs them all,

[CoffeeCat]

8. I'm thinking that we want civil war....

It's the only explanation that makes sense to me.

Why would we do this?

Our government fully understands the dynamics between these Iraqi factions.

What are they thinking...that if we blow everything to hell and start a civil war--that we'll just have to leave and blame it on the "bad Iraqis?".

We know exactly what we're doing. We're catalyzing all of this violence.

They question is.....WHY?

[wtmusic]

12. Cheney thought the Iraqis would be prostrate with gratitude

I don't believe for a second these arrogant assholes thought the Iraqis would fight back, or dare to fight with each other under our imperial command. The war is a huge turd floating in their 2006 punch bowl, and no one knows what to do with it.

[bluerum]

13. Good question. Is it just prurient interest?

The oil companies are salivating all over their silk ties to get in there. Right now, * is the doorman there, and he is also a little sock puppet. They are the only ones that stand to make any money.

Its about oil and $$$. The question is how is the US going to extract some kind of net benefit out of this. The place is destabilized. It will take many troops many years to keep things safe for our oil barons. At some point, the American people will see whats happening and speak up. Maybe. The fools.

The money we have poured into this fiasco could have funded enough alternative energy research to have us oil independent in 10 years.

[wtmusic]

9. 'sectarian violence' = bushspeak for 'civil war'

That phrase has been popping up more and more

[me b zola]

11. General Granger was on msrnc earlier

and he was going on about how much better things in Iraq are going to be this year. I shook my head, because I have an awful feeling that are only going to become uglier. The administration & consequently the press have been hiding some of the more hidious things going on in Iraq right now (death squads, Iraqi police & military that we have trained are acting as militias for their communities, etc). They won't be able to hide it forever, the lid is getting ready to come off.

[KT2000]

14. dear resident boosh....

Lesson #1 - When a country is ruled by a dictator, that dictator is suppressing others who would like to be in power. When the dictator is removed one should expect that others who want to be in charge will fight for control of the country.

In Iraq, there are three major groups that are vying for control and/or autonomy. Those groups are the Sunnis, the Shiites and the Kurds. So, removing Hussein will result in civil war among these groups.

Lesson #2 - Read Democratic Underground as this was discussed in depth before your murderous invasion.

[Disturbed]

15. Bush Regime Iraq Successes (Pase 1)

"The terrorists want to control the oil. Our way of life will be at risk". George W. Bush (Nov. 2005)

The US will be in Iraq for as long as the Dems in Congress keep funding the Occupation. I am guessing that around 60K troops will be pulled out before the '06 Elections, 100K will stay on the outskirts of the Sunni Triangle and the US Air Force will kill many non-combatents. There will never be a full withdrawl of US Forces from Iraq.

Bush Regime Iraq Successes (Pase 1)

1. Saddam will no longer sell Iraqi oil via the Euro.

2, A military foothold in the ME. Other than Saudi Arabia.

3, No countries will be able to buy Iraqi oil that the U.S. disapproves of.

4. The Multi-Intl. Oil Corps are reaping great profits.

5. The Military Industrial Complex is a booming Industry.



“We live a lie when we fail to hold leaders accountable for their lies. By not calling now for impeachment, we are saying that we condone hypocrisy, pseudo-democracy, and murdering thousands of Americans and Iraqis for strategic control of energy resources that we have no right to. Patriotism demands that we insist on the ideals of democracy, not that we support the "leaders" who cynically destroy them.”
Robert Shetterly