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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:38 AM
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Joe Wilson responds to WaPo hatchet job
Via email:

You may have seen this morning's editorial in the Post. It manages to recycle pretty much every lie and smear over the past three years in a last ditch effort to divert attention from the facts, and the role the Post itself played both in the march to war and in the leak (see Woodward).

I know many of you are better versed in Plamegate than either Valerie or I and I also know that some of you will be addressing the editorial.

I want to let you know how much Valerie and I continue to be buoyed by your support and your dedication to getting the truth out and holding the administration and its lackeys accountable for the terrible policies they have foisted on our country and on the world. We must keep fighting.

As you think about this, our website (Wilsonsupport.org) has a copy of the letter I sent to the SSCI when its report first came out, challenging some of its conclusions. The LeftCoaster has a terrific study by eriposte on the whole Niger forgery case from beginning to end. Firedoglake and the Next Hurrah both have highly informative analyses of the case by skilled researchers and former prosecutors. I recommend them all as resoruces to jog memories. by this afternoon, I expect that our own team will have an updated set of talking points to distribute for your use as well.

Each of you in one way or another has contributed to the public's (and in many cases our own) understanding of the issues from the beginning. Thank you for continuing to do so.

Joe Wilson
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:41 AM
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1. I think something is about to break on this story...
or else, someone wishes to use it as a diversion?
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LA lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:42 AM
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2. and I am a pessimist
I think it's over.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:49 AM
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8. Civil suit is coming up
its not over, the civil suit may reveal much more information.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:58 AM
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9. I think something is about to break also.
At least I hope so. Fitz, I'm praying for you baby!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:42 AM
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3. thanks for posting, Will (eom)
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:43 AM
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4. K&R
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:43 AM
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5. Thanks! I'm passing this around if its ok with Joe
Hang in there, Joe and Valerie!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:44 AM
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6. We should just email two words to the WaHo: Brewster Jennings
and let them suck on 'em with the cold remains of their reputation.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 02:26 PM
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24. Sing it sister.
I agree. We should accompany that with this:


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. Yep. I think a few hundred two word, illustrated emails
would scare the hell out of the kleptocracy.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 12:23 AM
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43. Hundred?
Thousands would be best. :evilgrin:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 03:47 PM
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31. and this
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #6
28. I just looked for the ombudsman for WaPo
and I can't find it. I'd love to scorch the leaves over there a little..
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 03:23 PM
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29. Isn't the ombudsman that lady that went ballistic a couple of months
ago and shut down the comment section of their site?

I think we should put up an action: Send those two words to the Editorial page. Let them sweat. It's probably letters @ washingtonpost .com
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:56 PM
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40. her name is Deborah Howell. Before you write, you may want to
Edited on Fri Sep-01-06 04:56 PM by spooky3
go to

http://mediamatters.org

and do a search on her name.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 04:05 AM
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46. Or "Bob Woodward." A little matter of nondisclosure while he was
pontificating about the Plame case in the media and failed to mention to anyone, including his own bosses, his own personal knowledge of the matter. He was so "concerned" he waited two years to disclose anything to his own bosses and the Feds and only did when he thought it might help provide cover for Libby and Rover.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:48 AM
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7. That WaPo editorial was pure horseshit wearing a coat of wishful thinking.
It will be interesting to see how far afield Armitage (& others) lets this go....
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:15 PM
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34. the last thread of credibility the Whorington had was lost with that ed
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 04:46 AM
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47. It's impressive, isn't it
Just when you think that "newspaper" couldn't get any worse.... it manages to outdo itself.

It must be really embarassing for the people who work there.

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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:08 AM
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10. Huh?
"I know many of you are better versed in Plamegate than either Valerie or I and I..."

No offense, but aren't he and Valerie two of the principal actors in this whole thing?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:30 AM
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14. They are two people
We are hundreds of people reading and collating every bit of data.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:18 AM
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11. Great to see so many are on top of this
I can't understand how WaPo could say that "Mr. Wilson chose to go public with an explosive charge, claiming -- falsely, as it turned out -- that he had debunked reports of Iraqi uranium-shopping in Niger". What the hell was false about that?
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:24 AM
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12. You can see see the sweat on the brow of this editorial.
My guess: anonymous guest editorial from everybody's sweaty pal Karl Rove.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 03:43 PM
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30. Oh, it was anonymous?
Well, that explains it. If you're anonymous you can say anything you want no matter how stupid it is. And WaPo prints it! :mad:
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #11
55. "Falsely???" The 16 words? So, Jr should unapologize now - if
WaPo "established" it was false
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:29 AM
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13. they're desperate
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 06:28 AM
Response to Reply #13
49. BO BUSH MAKES HIS CASE?
The Dukes of Hazzard!

Hazardous to your Health that IS!
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:46 AM
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15. "...Valerie and I continue to be buoyed by your support and your
dedication to getting the truth out..."


Spoken like a master diplomat.

:)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:19 PM
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16. Excellent! Instant comeback....if only there were more like Joe Wilson
who doesn't take this crap from WaPo or NYT's.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:09 PM
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17. kick
:kick:
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:19 PM
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18. What's going on I ask myself
I love these insider tips. Makes me feel in the loop.

:thumbsup:
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:24 PM
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19. Nice message - thanks for sharing n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:30 PM
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20. What do you make of adding
Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and Cotchett, Pitre, Simon & McCarthy as counsels in their civil case?
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 02:13 PM
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21. I love the Wilsons
Thanks for posting Will.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 02:13 PM
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22. K & R
:kick:
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 02:14 PM
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23. K&R
If you hate Karl Rove, support Joe and Valerie.




http://wilsonsupport.org /


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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 02:47 PM
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26. The Civil Case will be interesting.
Darth Cheney has hired an Attorney.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 03:12 PM
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27. Hey Pitt, the freepers LOVE you!
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 03:49 PM
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32. If the Fweepies hate Will, he must be doing something right!
:thumbsup:


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StrictlyRockers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:09 PM
Response to Reply #32
33. Patrick Fitzgerald seems like an honest man. If he finds some truth...
...he pretty much has to reveal it in court. Otherwise he, himself, becomes liable.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #32
36. freepers are
mindless sheep. i don't understand their hatred of the truth. they're like vampires and truth is their garlic.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 06:48 PM
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41. Why freepers hate the truth:
The darkness (evil) cannot tolerate the light (truth). They are evil. As Scott Peck says about evil people...they are "people of the lie."
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 10:40 AM
Response to Reply #32
54. There are only about
20 Freepers. They just post under different names. They don't work and therefore are just keyboard geeks with thought disorders and loose associations wrapped in OCD. There's nothing wrong with these fools that couldn't be cured with the help of a good hooker. Then again, freepers couldn't get laid in a whore house with hundred dollar bills sticking out of their pockets.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:20 PM
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35. they talk about reimbursing taxpayers
sounds good. let's start with reimbursing taxpayers for the lies regarding the war in iraq.
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:54 PM
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38. Hadn't been to freeperland for awhile......GAK!
I desperately need a shower.
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NancyG Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:51 PM
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37. K&R
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:54 PM
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39. Joe, you're a hero

:yourock:

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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:24 PM
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42. I used to think the Post was on the side of the common man
After 2000 they changed....they are no longer credible.
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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 01:54 AM
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44. Following Is E-Mail To WaPo
What a snarky title for a hatchet job editorial.

So Joseph Wilson was himself responsible for ruining his wife's career. What did I miss? Show me the evidence that Wilson was responsible in any manner for the disclosure by Robert Novak that is wife was an undercover CIA agent. Just as I thought, you don't have any.

Then take the conversation Armitage had with Novak. The gossip Armitage passed along was that Valerie Wilson was the wife of Joseph Wilson and she had a role in sending Joseph Wilson to Niger. We know that Novak confirmed Valerie Plame's employment at CIA. Granted, Armitage gave Novak information that got his foot in the door, but somebody (apparently Rove) filled in a number of blanks that Armitage omitted -- certainly a lot more than "yeah, I heard that too".

Lastly, you boldly state that Wilson's statement on his conclusion concerning no credible evidence that Saddam had been able to acquire any yellowcake from Niger was false. Excuse me, but if you are going to label something as false you are obligated to provide both the statement you label false and the available evidence that proves the statement is false. No such evidence was provided.

Who was the stenographer that passed along the Republican talking points and slapped it in as an editorial.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 02:51 AM
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45. What? "Many of you are better versed in Plamegate"
Is this some kind of joke?

"I know many of you are better versed in Plamegate than either Valerie or I"

"challenging some of its conclusions"

"by this afternoon, I expect that our own team will have an updated set of talking points to distribute for your use as well." This afternoon has come and gone.

"Each of you in one way or another has contributed to the public's (and in many cases our own) understanding of the issues from the beginning."

Say It Ain't So Joe?

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 06:50 AM
Response to Reply #45
50. Why would that
strike you as a "joke"?

Ambassador Wilson has said from the giddy-up that the exposure of his wife's identity was part of something far larger. I don't think that's a punch line.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 08:59 AM
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53. Well, I'm ready to come out swinging for them/YOU Joe and Valerie
Edited on Sat Sep-02-06 09:00 AM by symbolman
I didn't spend a year of my life researching all of this Plamegate info for nothing, even made a two DVD set with the history, boiled it all down so that people could cut though the media lies and chatter - I was happy to send three copies of the DVD to Joe Wilson during Xmas last year, even giftwrapped it and told him I would be happy to send FREE copies to anyone in the House or Senate that wanted the FACTS to do battle with the Media and help Joe and Valerie.. even added a little goodie to the end of the DVD set, re-recorded "Secret Agent Man" and made it "Secret Agent Plame"..

You can hear it and read the lyrics at http://www.takebackthemedia.com

Randi Roads ended up singing the lyrics to my version so many times that people were complaining, I was on the floor laughing, it was hilarious and was getting the word out.

If you need me to help lay out the scenario, and PROVE it with clips, some of which I personally filmed in HiDef Digital of Joe Wilson UNDER OATH at the Downing Street Minutes Hearing at the Capitol, I will gladly supply it.

We've got your back Joe and Valerie, sorry I can't contribute Money right now, but like I said, I've got that dual DVD set that offers a YEARS worth of research and it's all yours, as many copies as you want to hand out, just let me know, I can absorb those costs for this.

GO get 'em Joe and Valerie, you are Patriots of the first ORDER..

EXCELSIOR!
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 06:10 AM
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48. I can't tell you how angry
I am over these lies against the Wilsons. I hope that they decide to continue their fight. Please continue to post on this matter.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 08:28 AM
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51. Hiatt is a BushCo operative
He has consistently and perpetually carried their water. The paper has lost all credibility.
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exlrrp Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 08:51 AM
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52. Is Fitzmas finally over??
Say it aint so Fitz!!
What a disappointment Fitz has been. He played his cards close to the vest , never said anything which hurt the Republicans. He found nothing but a 2d rank player and chatrged him with a low level crime that had nothing to do with the original charges. Best guess: Libby, if convicted, gets pardoned by Bush on his last day. And he kept it all quiet so that it never interfered with the Republican domination of the elections. Mission Accomplished Fitz!! Youve spent millions to produce..... almost nothing. NOw just go away!!! Youve done nothing for the American people so far and they can count on more of the same.
Anybody who renamed their holidays for Fitz can now name them back
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #52
56. Who said it was over besides you and the righties?
Get real. The case has a ways to go. I wish it would move faster though.
:dem:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 12:21 PM
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57. Joe Wilson seems like such an honorable man...
It's criminal what they're continuing to do to him and his family, after all that's gone before.
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dollydew Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 12:32 PM
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58. Plamegate
Can you or anyone provide an email address to the WaPo or the NYT? TKS in advance.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 10:59 PM
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 12:18 AM
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60. What would you like inscribed on your tombstone?
You're not long for DU, son.
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OctOct1 Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 12:24 AM
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61. Rush, Is that you???
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 12:31 AM
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62. Hello you must be going
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 12:51 AM
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63. why do YOU bother?
you sour, limp, patethic foul lump of flesh.

The man's wife was outed. She lost her livelihood. Her LIFE was put in jeopardy. Our COUNTRY was betrayed.

And all you can do is nitpick and spout bullshit and speak of things that you obviously don't know what the fuck your'e talking about.

Eat your own bullshit,lies, and right wing gossip motherfucker.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 07:54 AM
Response to Reply #63
65. Please!
I can tell that you are trying to convey a subtle message here, but I'm having difficulty "reading between the lines." Can you just come out and say what it is you are implying in your response to our new beast fiend?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 10:58 AM
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66. heh
:hi:

As you can see, It was 2 a.m, and I was pretty, er, "sated" :)
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 01:05 AM
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64. Welcome to DU. Now go home.
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