The Analogy For Iraqnam is NOT WW II, It's Vietnam -- Sen. Hagel Agrees!

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Just as we lost Vietnam by losing the hearts and minds of the South Vietnamese with burning villages to save them, the My Lai Massacre, the horrible corruption of the South Vietnamese leaders, the plan to "Vietnamize" the war, and the fact that Vietnam was really about the oil in the South China Sea and other resources, we are losing the Iraq War for all the same reasons.

Even Republican Senator Hagel agrees!

Hagel: Bush Should Seek Immediate Cease Fire In Lebanon; Says Iraq Is Vietnam All Over Again

August 01, 2006



“The sickening slaughter on both sides must end now. This madness must stop.”

With those words, Senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska urged President Bush to push for an immediate cease fire in Lebanon.

Hagel, a decorated veteran of the Vietnam conflict, also compared American involvement in Iraq to the U.S. misadventure in Southeast Asia.

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Hagel also said anarchy has gripped Iraq and that Bush erred in recently announcing that more troops would be sent there.

“That isn’t doing any good. It’s going to have a worse effect. They’re destroying the United States Army,” Hagel told the Omaha World-Herald.

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In August of 2005, Hagel said the United States was becoming bogged down in Iraq and that the Bush administration was disconnected from reality and losing the war. He said a parallel was emerging between the Vietnam and Iraq campaigns.

At that time Hagel said: "The longer we stay in Iraq, the more similarities will start to develop, meaning essentially that we are getting more and more bogged down, taking more and more casualties, more and more heated dissension and debate in the United States.”

http://nebraska.statepaper.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/07/31/44ce1d086d76b

Let's have Dems quote Hagel in response to this ridiculous PR campaign that Iraqnam is like WWII...

Please remember to recommend to counter the Republican PR Blitz on the war!

[Dems Will Win]

1. Media Girl Agrees:

Iraq and Vietnam; history repeating itself
By Matsu, posted Thursday 10 Aug 2006, 9:17 am
Is history repeating itself?

Historian A. J. P. Taylor once remarked that there comes a day when students learn from books what is within the living memory of the instructor. I am no instructor, but I vividly recall when the United States was embroiled overseas in the midst of a foreign nation's civil strife - where American troops could not tell the "good guys" from the "bad guys" because the enemy could simply melt into the environment.

I recall how that war had been popular and that the President had won a second term in his own right because he would be better at handling threats to the United Sates than could his opponent.

http://mediagirl.org/node/1313

[BelgianMadCow]

2. So the WWII analogy triggered you too

it is the ultimate attempt to justify another phony war on a noun by comparing it to WWII.

If they are allowed to pull that off, the context is set for expanding the multi-theatre war further.

Bush referred to Omaha beach in his speech. Rumsfeld says you're fighting the new nazis. he f'ing IS one %<#@!! Sickening. Glad you pointed that out.

Here's your first recommend.

[Dems Will Win]

3. Independents will believe Vietnam before the WW II Analogy

It's a winner in that sense. We need to ask how many more will die before we finally do withdraw? 1,000? 5,000? 50,000?

There is Civil War there now (91% of the violence is sectarian!), we are stuck in the middle and either we call a draft and re-invade Iraq (especially Basra and Baghdad) or we withraw, re-deploy, bid adieu. They just want to continue the troop level we have now.

In no way can 130,000 troops handle a Civil War.