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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:19 AM
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The president is INSANE but most folks are cool with it.
We've pointed it out here a million times, any hack shrink can confirm it, simple observation proves it, yet, there he still is, crazier than a shit house rat and proud of it. Most folks realize it, and millions aren't even aware that there is such a thing as the president.

the man is obviously, dangerously unstable, certifiably maniacal, virtually and literally loony and most of the press and nation seems cool with it.

History will note his many public ravings and facial tics and illiteracy and obvious drug damaged demeanor and drunken ramblings and screw ups and incompetence and ineptness and will wonder why we dumbasses put up with him and the answer will always be the same.

He was the stupidest president who ever lived, and he reigned over the stupidest population that ever lived.

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:19 AM
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1. so I guess its only fitting
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:25 AM
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2. no. i think most people 60% +- are not cool with it.
we just dont know what to do and our leaders are not showing us how to fight it.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:35 AM
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7. our leaders are not showing us how to fight it
first it would be up to us to "fight it" and that would be only our responsibility when we vote in November? what 60% of the people can't take on what 36% of those who are in denial and deluded about this pResident. come on are we that gutless?.
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:52 AM
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15. That's the problem...we don't have leaders of our own
we have politicians who claim to be...but it just ain't so.

I love grass roots, but looking back over history I see few movements that made much headway without someone charismatic who provided a voice and focus for the movement.

Bush is clearly ready to fall over his own feet. But we don't have the leader to capitolize on it...yet.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 12:19 PM
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20. im afraid we are exactly that gutless.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:25 AM
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3. He was the stupidest president in history and the most dangerous
and was put into power by and for a very small group of very rich men.

The population didn't have much to do with it.
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BlueCentrist Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:49 AM
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11. and the people who could actually stop him
ie Congress is sitting on its hands while the public is outraged and IMPEACH is being screamed from every mountian top.
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:29 AM
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4. Yup, But no president has ever paid off better to his contributors.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:50 AM
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12. Right: '...my base, the Haves and the Have Mores' said bush
Michael Moore was kind enough to put it in a film.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:30 AM
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5. I'm in a better mood today
So less likely to be swayed by your peans to despair.

But let me ask you - are we better off hopeful or would we better off giving up?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:31 AM
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6. embrace your inner despair
who says I'm giving up?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:44 AM
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9. No - i can tell you won't give up till everybody embraces their
innor despair - your like one of them dinosaurs in Jurrassic park - the little ones that just keep coming and coming . . . can't remember the name . . .

Bryant
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:38 AM
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8. That's EXACTLY why we have to stop promoting the meme...
...that "Bush** is an idiot." Whether it's true or not, it's highly useful for them. It lowers the public's expectations of his administration, it lets them put the blame for all the failures on Bush** instead of on their flawed conservative philosophy, etc.

NGU.


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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:48 AM
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10. maybe you're right
they could actually be enforcing the notion on purpose, for years they denied he was an idiot, now scarborogh is doing reports on his idiocy witht that exact question.

But I don't think I ever thought of blaming bush himself for all this madness, he's too stupid to have thought of any of it, yet, he does have power of office and media and he embodies all America like it or not.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:52 AM
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14. Lakoff says we need to remember that this is a failure...
...of the conservative philosophy itself. To say that Bush** has failed suggests that another RW nut could come along and succeed - Bill Frist, John McCain, George Macaca. Nothing could be further from the truth. It's the very fundamentals of their philosophy that are flawed. YOYO. You're on your own.

See: http://www.rockridgeinstitute.org/research/lakoff/incompetent

NGU.


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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:14 AM
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16. Well, he IS an idiot, but more important, he is a tool,
and at the end of his term (if not before) he'll have outlived his usefullness and the cabal will back a different tool. Getting rid of * will not solve our problems -- it is the cabal behind him that is the problem.

Allow me to put on my :tinfoilhat:

The best thing that could happen, in their minds, would be for something tragic to happen to * before his term ends. All the negatives of his term will disappear with him, while his successor benefits from the sympathy vote - that successor being the new VP appointed after Darth Cheney siezes the WH. Assuming the 'something tragic' to be an assassination or terror attack, it would also give the cabal the opportunity to ramp up the patriotism as it unleashes hell on Iran. It would give them at least another 4 years.

:tinfoilhat: off.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:27 AM
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17. You make a good point, but first you just had...
...to take a shot at him. That's the kind of Progressive hubris these criminals are banking on.

NGU.


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Surya Gayatri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 12:09 PM
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19. Like the Chimp said in yesterday's interview
with Brian Williams on MSNBC, "You just have to keep lowering expectations"

(I'm quoting from memory here). Seemed like an apt slogan for his whole

catastrophic reign. But, you're right Warrior, the danger is that he'll

become the disposable fall-guy for the evil, dangerous movement that spawned

him. At every opportunity, Bush and his Party must be linked inseparably in

the public mind: Bush AND the Republicans.

SG
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:50 AM
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13. It is worth pointing out that the population may not be as stupid...
...as we are sometimes led to believe by our own observation of the lack of public outcry against him. I believe, based on my own observations that, yes, about 25% of the American population are either so unconcerned with politics as to give the President a pass or genuinely believe his actions are reasonable. Either determination is disturbing for the self-proclaimed fountainhead of Democracy.

  However, I believe for the remainder (and also for members of that percentage mentioned above) that another thing is arguably at play- the defense mechanism of the human mind. The presidency is a position which we are programmed to respect, to one degree or another, as we are growing up. America represents a perfect model of Democracy and the president, the paragon of those ideals. However, when a president begins, to put it charitably, behaving not only disagreeably but, in fact erratically the balance of facts can lead Americans to some very disturbing conclusions- conclusions so disturbing that it is very attractive to deny them and attempt to preserve one's self from the insanity of the real by adhering to a somewhat more pleasant fiction.

  I do not mean to drag religion into this but I must, for a moment, use it as a simile for my point: The realization of one's own mortality is extremely disturbing, or generally is, to self-aware ego-driven organisms (of which I count myself a member). I choose to be an atheist, but reluctantly, as it provides no answers beyond the empirical answers that science provides and cold comfort in regards to my continuance as a self-aware being after my death. These disturbing facts drive many to believe in a magical force, existing beyond and usually contrary to all that is known simply yet irrationally driven by the desire not to confront the disturbing realities as we know them.

  It is this disregard for displeasing facts and an appeal and adherence to mysticism which I believe are also at play with the public's general lack of prolonged intellectual confrontation with the realities of Bush's behavior- I assert that any attempt to compare him not only to other presidents' actions but to the actions of a reasonable, psychologically-healthy human strongly come up wanting.

  And that is simply, frankly, too much for some people to bear considering the power of life and death he holds over us all.

  It is worth noting that the infamously insane Caligula still reigned for a little over three years before he was assassinated. The Romans were no less or more rational than ourselves though, it is also worth noting, that they were not subject to a constant propaganda barrage which the media provides.

PB
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:29 AM
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18. i couldn't agree more!! n/t
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:50 PM
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21. More Evil than crazy, Much crazier than stupid.
Not stump dumb, but not overly bright. His SAT score implie a higher than average IQ as a high schooler, but that was before the liquor and other stuff.

All in all, it's his ignorance that is so mind boggling, the choice to go through life and deliberately stay that ignorant. I guess you can't be that evil and think about it a lot.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 07:36 PM
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22. ummmmm. . .
"He was the stupidest president who ever lived, and he reigned over the
stupidest population that ever lived."

You are too cool and too right.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:31 PM
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23. I love that phrase too. nt
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