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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:55 AM
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"Impeachment" Dominates PBS McLauglin Group Discussion
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 03:17 AM by oasis
John McLaughlin assumes there will be an impeachment of Bush if Dems take the house. He also had praise for Gore's speech.

On the subject of Gore, Knight Ridder columnist, Steve Thomma says Gore won't run in 2008. Thomma's hearing it from Gore people. "He's not doing the things you need to do to run" he said. "He's not talking to the money people".

Well worth the watch this week. Check your local PBS listing.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:59 AM
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1. I forgot to watch tonight
I think it reruns Sunday afternoon, unless it's (probably) fundraising time.

McLaughlin ain't seeming too bad lately. Scary.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:01 AM
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2. Yes I believe it is shown again on Sundays. n-t
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:03 AM
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3. He's not been a fan of Bush or Bush's war.
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Check12 Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:06 AM
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4. I watched, and it was painful
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 03:08 AM by Check12
The first segment was on OBL of course. I played a little game with my wife and said how long will it take before one of these pundit pricks asks why in the hell has he not been killed or captured after four years. Guess what, didn't happen. John McLaughlin spews this ridiculous postulate about bush and how OBL wants him out of office. Then they all start talking about OBL's political strategy!!!! Why don't they just pull up a chair for him so he can chat with them about it. Worst McLaughlin Report segment I have seen and I have seen some bad ones.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:14 AM
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5. This is by far the best of many. Just because they're not saying what
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 03:16 AM by oasis
you want to hear, you make an attempt to throw cold water on it.

People want to hear about impeachment of the worst president ever. He's committed "high crimes and misdemeanors" and McLauglin has recognized it.

Edit for spelling.
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Check12 Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:22 AM
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6.  You will note I said segment not show!
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 03:27 AM by Check12
SEGMENT, not the whole show. You must read these posts accurately before starting a flame.
The segment on Impeachment was OK, however George Bush will not accept impeachment He will declare martial law, arrest members of congress and send them off to gitmo. He does not have to abide by congress, didnt you read the memo? The man will never go quietly, never!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:31 AM
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7. The word segment is not in your title. There's a chance DUers will pass on
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 03:34 AM by oasis
a good program based on your title alone. BTW McLaughlin used the word "impeachment" at least 10 times in the first segment which runs close to 20 minutes.

If you care to check it "impeachment" is the topic of this thread.
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Check12 Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:41 AM
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9. Let's all dream of George Bush
frog marched out of the white house, after a fair and honest election restores the house and senate to the democrats.
Even if such a miracle occured you would have to then also impeach Cheney, and then Hastert. Dreaming about impeachment, wonderful as it sounds is like smoking crack. I hate the fact that America, My America has been taken over in a bloodless coup but I am trying to accept reality.

Nice talkin to ya..
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:50 AM
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10. Dems taking back the House and impeaching Bush not a miracle.
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 03:51 AM by oasis
Bush is a criminal and it would be the responsiblity of the house to impeach his no good ass. Cheney will be shaking in his boots because he knows that the Dems will be coming after his lousy, rotten carcass too.

No miracles needed. Only "dreamers" would believe patriotic Americans would put up with Bush's criminality for one minute more than they had to.
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Check12 Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 04:08 AM
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13. Between episodes of american idol and the apprentice?
Thats about one minute.

Listen, I understand the desire for justice, I just think it's going to take a revolution of the people not an act of congress. It's too late for that.

I wish I had more faith in the government, but power has been consolidated too far and they have made choices that would mean prison if the secrets came out. They will fight to the death to hold on to power before that happens. Have you seen the prison abuse photos that a judge ordered the DOD to release over a year ago? so much for judicial branch oversight. Have we gotten that report that was promised by Pat Roberts on Phase II after Reid shut down the house two months ago? So much for the legislative branch. That leaves only one branch of government with no oversight whatsoever, claiming absolute power.

Hence we have a dictatorship! immune from all attempts at restoring our democracy legally. It's up to the people now, and the soccer moms and Nascar dads will have really get hurt bad by the government before they do anything. I hope I am worng but I don't think so.

I never used to be this cynical, hell, I never used be political util this madman stole the presidency in 2000
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 04:46 AM
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16. The U.S. Constitution and the rule of law will ultimately prevail. I have
complete confidence in the everlasting principles that have made America the greatest country in the history of the planet.
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Check12 Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:19 PM
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25. Left wing nationalism
Americans are the greatest people in the world, these colors don't run, love it or leave it.

I hope you are right, I realy do.

Oh, by the way, do you have one of those red white and blue 'support our troops' ribbon magnets made in communist china?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 04:03 AM
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12. Not really. He's saying DEMOCRATS will impeach?
So he's telling America that it's a partisan political issue. Thanks a bunch.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 04:09 AM
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14. If that's your take on it, well and good. I'm recommending the show
because he's hammering on impeachment. The more the public gets used to the idea, the better.
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Dan Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:40 AM
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8. I hope that the Democrats take Congress in 2006
and having done that, I would like them to have impeachment hearing of Bush and others within his administration, but I do not want Bush impeached.

I would like the Dems to parade Bush like a monkey on crack, for the remaining two years of his term. Have Mr. Bush before committee after committee without his father figure Satan (Cheney) with him. Expose Mr. Bush to the American people, display the quality of his intellect and the cost of electing ignorance. Expose the corruption of his administration and force Bush to explain the reasons behind his various actions. Expose this whole Gannon (reporter at the WH) thing that still doesn't make sense - explain whether there was someone having sex in the WH since Bill left. Demonstrate to the American people, just because one says he is a man of God, doesn't make it so. Finally, and most importantly, give the American people a lesson on Our Form of Government, which it appears, so many of us has forgotten.

Then, at the end of two years, let that dancing monkey go.....and file the criminal charges, civil lawsuits, and take every damn penny that the Bush family has. Make sure that the next generation of Bushes will not be rich, but will work in positions that fit not only their true intellect, but their economic station in life - somewhere shoveling horse shit.

And Bush, lets render his ass to Iraq - and let them put his ass on trial for War Crimes. Let us then see the truth face of courage, from our fearless leader.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:54 AM
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11. Bush would have to go to the World Court for war crimes, not Iraq.
I'll be satisfied with impeaching his lousy ass and giving him jail time in Gitmo.
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Dan Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 04:25 AM
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15. as long as justice is done,...failing that
payback works.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 05:28 AM
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17. Cheney would have to be indicted first
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 05:29 AM by teryang
A successful impeachment process could result in a worse situation. (I'm still all for it!) Indict Cheney for corruption so he cannot effectively take the presidential office when bush goes down. Who would chimp appoint as VP in anticipation of his own fall from office? In other words who would the next appointed president be?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 10:32 AM
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18. Once Bush is put on trial for breaking the law, the rest of the neocon
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 10:36 AM by oasis
crooks will be disheartened. They'll know that the people are back in charge and that they are next in line for proscecution.

Impeachment is required by law. Let the chips fall where they may.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 09:48 AM
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24. I'm with you in principle, but wasn't VP Agnew indicted?
I don't know what you mean "required by law." Impeachment like most prosecutions is discretionary. Does the VP have to be impeached?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:40 AM
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26. Instead of "require" I should use "it is the duty and responsibilty of
the congress to put Bush on trial for criminal acts."
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 10:49 AM
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19. I'll have to catch the rerun tomorrow.
Did Toady Blankley implode during the discussion?

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Marleyb Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:43 AM
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20. excellent!
we cannot wait for an 'election' however.

We must demand all representatives, democratic or republican do their jobs NOW!

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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:51 AM
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21. McLaughlin also said Bush should not "back off" on wiretaping...
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 11:52 AM by Jade Fox
Americans.

I am so sick of Pundits. Who the hell are these people to get on the air and broadcast their stupid opinions to the world?? Screw them.

We need a lot less opinion from the media and a lot more information. Make that VERIFIED information.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:52 AM
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22. This show sounds like the most liberal on TV
from what I've been reading on DU the past few months. My boycott of the corporate media extends to even PBS, so I wouldn't know. But I did used to watch this show frequently, and it was typical right wing fare with a huge helping of screaming that made it virtually impossible to watch. What do you think is behind the improvement?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:44 AM
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27. McLaughlin doesn't care for Chimpy's brand of conservatism. Pat B.
Edited on Mon Jan-23-06 02:48 AM by oasis
was never for the Iraq invasion and hates how the government has bloated under Bush.

Eleanor Clift, the lone liberal, is now given time to make her points before being talked over. John McLaughlin saw to that when he booted Micheal Barone off of the show 2 years ago.

Edit to add: Sorry for such a late reply. Computer was down all day Saturday.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:16 PM
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23. Impeach! Impeach! Impeach!
Be sure to go to www.johnconyers.com and add your name to Conyers effort to create a special investigative committee. I'm calling the committee the "Impeachment Encampment." Ha! :D
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