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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 08:20 AM
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The bush* cabal and the dreaded word, blackmail
If for no other reason this is why blackmail is so dangerous. The only way that this illegal and immoral war could be still going on and this madman still not be in a straight jacket is because of it, imho. My strong point was never intelligence and even I can see the fallacy in this approach to the world. Kill first and no talk later is not diplomacy. So how can this still be happening if not for blackmail. NSA, spying, war in Iraq, Democratic Senators supporting, there is a connection there and I would bet on that.
:scared: :mad:
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 08:25 AM
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1. Even money in my book
Edited on Mon Aug-21-06 08:25 AM by Atman won't make a penny off of me. BushCo is run like a crime syndicate, and once you're in, you're never really "out." Unless they, uh...say so. The timing of the NSA wire taps and the Hart Senate Office Building "anthrax" scare -- in which all those poor democrats had to run into the street at a moment's notice, leaving their offices unlocked and unattended for months while the building was "decontaminated" -- well, it sure does much more to explain The Case Of The Spineless Legislators than anything else I can think of!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 08:46 AM
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8. and once you're in, you're never really "out."
is enough reason to idenify the enablers, the blackmailed and the bought offs, and work our asses off collectively to oust these treasonous bastards.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 08:26 AM
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2. yes and it's been going on for a long time
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 08:35 AM
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5. That's probably part of it... wouldn't be surprising to learn that the Republicans set up sex stings in which politicians were videotaped with prostitutes, children or each other.

In addition to sex crimes, I bet there's also corruption crimes. I bet 95 percent of politicians have accepted bribes or engaged in other corruption. BushCo probably has it all on videotape.

I imagine the labyrinth of blackmail that holds this perverse administration together---is extraordinary.

It's about time that someone with some courage step up to the plate and expose this. Our nation is in peril. Our democracy is hanging on by a thread. The stakes are so high right now, and any blackmailed politician who choses to protect their own butt, at the expense of democracy--is just as bad as BushCo.

I wish a group of these blackmailed politicians would get some proof, come forward and expose this sick administration.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 08:42 AM
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6. Washington Babylon this is your final day, this is your final call
Edited on Mon Aug-21-06 08:42 AM by seemslikeadream
The richest man in Babylon

Washington Babylon

California Republican congressman Randy "Duke" Cunningham traded military contracts for $2.4 million in antiques, cash, and other booty. He is now in jail, but his case exposed a world of bribery, booze, and broads that reaches into the Pentagon, the C.I.A., and Congress. Washington is wondering: Who's next?

he corruption of Congressman Randy "Duke" Cunningham, a powerful California Republican, was, as the U.S. Attorney's Office maintains, historically "unparalleled"an astonishing statement coming in the wake of the Abramoff scandal. A former Vietnam naval pilot who was awarded two Silver Stars and a Purple Heart, Cunningham, now 64, appropriated John Wayne's nickname and first ran for the House with the slogan "A congressman we can be proud of." Indeed, from the moment he arrived in Washington, in 1991, he made it his business to seem larger than life, telling people that his wartime heroics had inspired episodes in the movie Top Gun. His military service and expertise eventually earned him a place on the defense-appropriations subcommittee, with vast sway over the military budget, as well as on the intelligence committee, which oversees the C.I.A. and other spy agencies. Ever ready to defend the integrity of the armed forces, as he saw it, Duke excoriated Democrats who wanted to cut the defense budget, calling them the same people "who would put homos in the military."

But in November, Cunningham's heroic image came crashing down, and his swagger evaporated when he pleaded guilty to accepting $2.4 million in bribes from military contractors in exchange for pressuring the Pentagon to buy their products and services. The government believes he was bribed chiefly by two men, identified in court documents as "co-conspirator No. 1" and "co-conspirator No. 2," now known to be Brent Wilkes and his protg Mitchell Wade. (Wilkes has vigorously denied any wrongdoing and has not been charged with any crimes in this case.) The products they hawkedcomputer software to scan and convert military maps, drawings, and documents into digital formatlacked glamour, perhaps, but they made the two entrepreneurs and Cunningham wealthy, arrogant, and even reckless, courtesy of a compliant Pentagon. Wilkes's two dozen or so firms, in California and Virginia, raked in $100 million over the last decade, while Wade's Washington-based MZM Inc. has gotten $150 million since 2002.

According to prosecutors, Wilkes and Wade generously remunerated Duke Cunningham for steering government business their way. Wilkes, prosecutors allege, gave Cunningham more than $600,000 in bribes, including two checks totaling $100,000 and $525,000 to pay off a mortgage. (Wilkes, through his attorney, denies these allegations.) In February, Wade pleaded guilty to bribing Cunningham with over $1 millionbut he operated with more panache, indulging Cunningham's taste for outsize antiques. The trove he offered included Persian and Indian rugs, sleek Louis-Philippe and Restoration commodes, a $24,000 Victorian china hutch, leaded-glass cabinets, and silver candlesticks worth $5,600. "Duke liked his antiques big and he liked them expensive," explains a Maryland antiques dealer, who despaired of his taste. (Duke got other gifts as well: a secondhand Rolls-Royce and the use of Wade's 42-foot boat, renamed the Duke-Stir.)

The truth is no one knows if the $2.4 million in bribes Cunningham has admitted taking in his guilty plea is the final total. Duke's been at it for some time. In fact, right up to the end, the Maryland antiques dealer tells me, Cunningham was trying to get her to put one of his valuable 19th-century armoires in storage, "anywhere, he didn't care where," as long as it was far from the government's prying eyes. "Very immature, thinking the rules of the game didn't apply to him," the dealer says. But why should they? For years he had been running the game. (Cunningham's attorney, K. Lee Blalack II, refuses to comment on the substance of the case.)

Washington is unraveling.
"What these revelations provide is a window into Babylon or the last stages of Rome," explains a source with knowledge of the multiple ongoing investigations.

The richest man in babylon

There is no quidance in your kingdom
Your wicked walk in Babylon
There is no wisdom to your freedom
The richest man in babylon

Your beggars sleep outside your doorway
Your prophets leave to wonder on
You fall asleep at night with worry
The saddest man in Babylon

The wicked stench of exploitation
Hangs in the air and lingers on
Beneath the praise and admiration
The weakest man in Babylon

There is no hope left in your kingdom
Your servants have burned all their songs
Nobody here remembers freedom
The richest man in Babylon

Si la lou babylon go 'dain
Babylon gon' be rich again
But to we don' sick again
But no we no weak again
Babyloooon on on on on
(Rasta scat)
Sal la lou ca uba whoa
Si la douba douba do wa bay
Si la loo babylon come 'round
You better know you better understand
'Fact you know you better hear what they say
Babylon this is your final day
Babylon this is your final call
Read the writin' it's on the wall
Said United we stand
And together we fall
And if I know that
You're not 'gon catch me in a rat pack
We not go fallin' on your death trap
No way...

Whoooooa oh oh oh oh whoa oh who oh oh
Whooooooa oh oh oh
Whoa oh oh o oh

Thievery Corporation
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 08:27 AM
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3. I agree....
We essentially have a bunch of Democrats who say practically nothing--while our democracy swirls down the toilet.

Democrats used to fight against the Republicans. Now, we rarely hear the outrage that is so justifiable and essential to our nation. At a time when the Dems could and should be screaming from the rafters--we hear practically nothing.

Furthermore, several times, when Dems have ventured out and called a spade a spade--we're treated to public apologies.

You are right. There is an undercurrent of corruption that runs beneath this administration. I don't know if they're blackmailing people or threatening them. Probably both.

Most of the Dems act like frightened middle-school children who've had their lunch money stolen.

In effect, America loses because we barely have an opposition party. Someone truly needs to figure this out...and determine why the Dems are cowering while our nation is being destroyed.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 08:27 AM
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4. It's The Nature of Conspiracy
There are a lot of people with very dirty hands, and they all hold hands to cover up the reveal the crimes of the person next to you would also reveal your own. To punish your criminal neighbor would be to inflict similar punishment upon yourself.

And they are doing the whistle blowers in with skill and finesse.

It's a VAST right-wing conspiracy, all right--all three branches of the US government, with subsidiaries in dozens of other countries....all run by shadowy corporate bosses, no doubt.

But it will fall--if only because the number of people NOT benefiting from these crimes greatly exceeds those who profit--and Nature, abhorring a vacuum, will see those profiteers fall like the aristocracy of France.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 11:47 AM
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9. I suspect the vision of many, if not most, if they think about it
at all and have a vision, is that the vast majority of the world "public" should be living in mud huts, with the top percent or two living in feudal comfort.

I have found, with few exceptions, that people who find themselves in superior positions either politically or economically usually come to the conclusion that they "deserve" to be there; that there is something about them that causes them to belong where they are; often claiming it's "god's will."

Some of this is, of course, justifiable, given the effort that many of the powerful have invested in their careers. The problem comes from the unfortunate fact that nations are composed of people, not money, property or possessions.

Somehow we must tip the table enough so they-the privileged class-start to understand, to "grok," that their positions are not a license to steal. The society we live in is not something for some little caesars to experiment on.

We do not need a reversion to a feudal society and we must be prepared to go to whatever lengths necessary to prevent these bastards' attempts to disenfranchise, crush and dehumanize the rest of civilization.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-21-06 08:44 AM
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7. blackmail, bribery, intimidation, deception, etc
As Demeter said, it's the nature of conspiracy.
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