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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 12:57 PM
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Get ready for a huge drop in gasoline prices,
albeit a temporary one. Just wait and see.

In an administration that has little or nothing left in their own gas tanks, this could be the final trump card for Bush, and if we're not on our toes, it could be a ploy that could possibly work.

I've been predicting on this forum for a long time that....just as much as these obscene gasoline prices are artificially created....they'll be artificially lowered dramatically sometime between now and October, just to appease the voters and set them up for the November elections. Life will seem good!

Mark my words. Bush and his oil producing minions will lower prices at the pumps by at least a half dollar a gallon before the November elections in a last ditch effort to buy another election for the Republicans.

In November of 2005 I posted:
If this isn't so blatantly obvious what Bush and the oil companies are up to, then I don't know what else to say. It's got more to do with dropping the price of gas than it does raising it. They got those gas prices so fucking high, that they in turn can lower them significantly, making the naive peasants think Bush is the greatest. "Look how low the prices are now! Woopie! I'm gonna vote Republican again!" Yet the idiots don't realize they're still paying way more than before Bush started the whole charade. It just SEEMS like they're not by comparison. Call it collusion or call it something, whatever it is, it's got to be illegal. This is just one more example of serious corruption that Bushco is behind.

You can bet your bottom dollar that prices in gasoline will drop at least another half dollar per gallon between now and the 2006 elections, and even though the price will still actually be brutal, it'll seem sweet compared to what we saw a few months ago until now. What a crooked bunch of bastards that are timing this whole price fluctuation thing based on the impending elections.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5258223

And once the elections are over, the prices will rise back to where they were this summer or even worse. If I'm wrong about the impending artificial temporary drop in prices coming between now and November, I'll gladly eat my crow!
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 12:59 PM
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1. I am sure this was an action item in "Chainies" secret energy meetings.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 01:06 PM
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2. My guess will be a drop to $2.50 or so in October
He's not going to be able to talk Big Oil into taking more of a loss in revenue than that.

The only question is whether or not it will be enough. If they are smart and start droppiing the prices by 5 to 10 cents a week so that the morons think the prices are on their way down and will continue to fall, that may indeed be enough.

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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 01:12 PM
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6. I'm guessing around $2.50, too, but I'm guessing it will occur by mid Sept
or late September at the latest, just giving the sheeple enough time in advance of the election to think life is good again, since so many of them vote with their wallets instead of their brains.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:02 PM
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16. $2.50?? Hell, that wouldn't even get McCain re-elected
We're gonna have to see something dramatic before Republicans even have a chance of holding on.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:11 PM
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20. I hope you're right, but I think the fools on the right can be bought out
for less than you're thinking.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 01:07 PM
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3. Unless it drops below $2 a gallon...
...which is where it was when Bush took office, then I'm not impressed.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 01:07 PM
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4. I posted this yesterday: (I suggested that one get out of oil stocks asap)
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 01:11 PM
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5. I'm sure there will be a huge drop, real soon.
I just topped off my tank.

I only drive about 400 miles/month. By the time I need to refill, the prices will be back up again.

Happens every time.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 01:20 PM
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7. Of course this Repug/Rove tactic must somehow be exposed to
Edited on Mon Aug-14-06 01:22 PM by LaPera
the mainstream!

For all to see the bullshit and the gouging in the past, they controlled.
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Franknable Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 01:45 PM
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11. How do you know Bush/Rove is responsible?

It's more likely that the oil companies themselves are to blame.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:33 PM
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14. The Bushies and the oil companies ARE the same thing
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 03:58 PM
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15. That's the perfect response to that question
and it's true. One hand washes the other.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 01:26 PM
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8. They will say that the drop in price is due to lessened demand, what with
the summer vacation period over and all. A perfectly legitimate excuse, unless you read between the lines and follow the pattern. The up and down cost of gas should be an insult to every American, it shows how gullible they think we are. And 36% of us truly are that gullible. Just ask the pollsters.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 01:26 PM
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9. No. Not a huge drop
But as other posters here have noted a fall to $2.50 (still historically sky high) will be universally greeted as a "huge" (or mabe HUGH) fall. The Newzpotatoes will be falling over each other to spew this blather.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 01:39 PM
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10. Falling to $2.50 will seem huge to anyone who is paying $3.20 now
$2.50 is the price I was thinking it would drop to, too, as I stated previously.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:16 PM
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12. Hmm. The Houston Chronicle is suggesting
this scenario:

U.S. gasoline prices hit an all-time high near $3.03 a gallon at the end of last week but should begin to fall as the summer driving season comes to an end, according to the Lundberg industry survey. ...

However, "absent any extreme changes in oil or gasoline supply, retail prices are likely to slide," Lundberg said. "There's plenty of gasoline, and gasoline supplies will be even more flush when we're out of the summer driving season."

U.S. oil futures for delivery in September were at $73.20 a barrel, down $1.15, in midday trade today on the New York Mercantile Exchange.


We experienced severe price spikes last year when the BP refinery in Texas City, responsible for 3% of the nation's gasoline, blew up in March 2005.

If you recall, this time last week the Bushies were talking about opening the Strategic Petroleum Reserve as a result of the BP Alaskan pipeline corrrosion, which endangers the supply long-term of 8% of the country's crude oil.

The pump price locally never even moved a penny. What's wrong with this picture?

Unless a Gulf hurricane presents itself as cause for "supply disruption" (enabling Big Oil to get squeeze more windfall profits out of its 'pipeline'), then I believe we'll see significant gasoline price reductions by mid-October.

How significant? Hell, that all depends on how many votes the Pukes still think they need that they can't steal with Diebold.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:04 PM
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17. "How significant"?
Hell, that all depends on how many votes the Pukes still think they need that they can't steal with Diebold.


Exactly. The price will drop according to how desperate they are.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 02:18 PM
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13. Let's see....prices go up at Memorial Day and down after Labor
Day. Has that ever happened before?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:09 PM
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19. Do prices normally rise and fall by app. a dollar/gal on those dates?
Or even by a half a dollar/gallon? I don't think so. They might historically rise and fall, but not like we've been seeing or like we're going to see again real soon under this corrupt administration with their forced fluctuations that rise obscenely for the sake of oil companies and seem to drop when Repukes are in real trouble.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:12 PM
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21. I've been having some gas fluctuations today, myself!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:16 PM
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23. LOL!
:evilgrin:
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:04 PM
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18. Supply and Demand Are No Longer Involved In Fuel Price
I've been saying it for well over the last 3 years. Supply and demand no longer drive fuel prices, if they did the world would not be paying a third what it is now. Does anyone so much as recall what OPEC's upper end target price was before this rape began? It was $24. Think about that, immediately before we invaded Iraq.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:15 PM
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22. Didnt some Fox News asshole try to blame the dems for high gas prices?
I think it was either Neil Cavuto or John Gibson. Wouldnt surprise me, since they're the biggest corporate whores in American history.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:28 PM
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24. It will be my pleasure to take the cheap gas, then VOTE THEM OUT
ANYWAY.

The other day I commented to a friend (who is, sadly, still something of a Bush apologist), "So this is what we get when we put Big Oil in the White House. We won't make that mistake again!"

He said drily, "They're ALL Big Oil."

I replied something to the effect of, "Listen, I know Clinton had his many faults, but no one can say he was some trust fund baby whose Daddy already had Oilbucks."

While "all" the politicians have to bow, in some sense, to the big money such as Big Oil, I see a clear difference between those who are friends with Big Oil, and those who ARE the EMBODIMENT of Big Oil. I don't like either group, but for Christ's sake, in Bush's case, the truth about him was right there out in the open--he IS Big Oil. I was too stupid to see it. It was too simple for me to see.

But I sure as hell see it now!
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:38 PM
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25. Too bad it is not safe to store it when the gas
prices go down. It would be nice to have a surplus when they hit over $3.00 again. Right now in Georgia where I live just northwest of Atlanta, the prices have dropped to a low of $2.86 a gallon for regular.
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